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Post by heavenlyshrew on Nov 8, 2010 19:55:17 GMT 1
Not only has Jamo's thread gone but the one i started too.What is going on ffs
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2010 20:04:09 GMT 1
Bloody 'ell Heavenly. I thought I was impatient. I'm sure one of the mods told you it was being looked into. It's obviously something that could be libellous. Let them do their jobs and announce their findings in good time mate
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Nov 8, 2010 20:05:30 GMT 1
I missed them - but I guess if they concerned transfers - posts on here might scupper them?
Pity I love the TWOTS :-)
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Nov 8, 2010 21:24:47 GMT 1
I missed them - but I guess if they concerned transfers - posts on here might scupper them? Pity I love the TWOTS :-) wasnt transfer related but regarding someone who left the club recently (no names ). Surely with B&A's hundreds of mods a decision should be reached more expediently? Funny that they're removing not just 'potentially libellious' threads but also threads asking what happened to the original, all hail the oligarchy!
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Post by shrewroo on Nov 8, 2010 21:59:04 GMT 1
Conspiracy theories galore, we've got to cut this out before it all ends in tears imo
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Post by Amsterdammer on Nov 8, 2010 22:05:46 GMT 1
In mod we trust. Leave them to get on with it.
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Post by barrynic on Nov 8, 2010 22:19:58 GMT 1
If the board gets any thinner we will all have a "mod" each.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 9, 2010 0:09:51 GMT 1
not sure about getting thin i accepted about 100 new members in the last month as i have done most months recently only 1 thread was moved today, jamos this was due to the club asking if we could do so as they felt it may be libellous i agreed to do so but stated if any more posts appear re the same subject could they please take up the issue with the poster after heavenlys post on this thread i have checked the log to see who removed a post but none have been removed since jamos we would have said so had we removed any as i said earlier to the mods and stfc b&a simply cannot win this debate but have taken the easy option in this instance sorry if it upset anyone, personally i would have left the thread had there been no request please note that we are not biased to stfc last week we removed a thread or 2 that one of our own members didnt really want aired in public anymore we may well do the same for you one day
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Post by ambergambler on Nov 9, 2010 7:16:48 GMT 1
Thought id upset you about the Pigeons for a minute!!!!
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Post by jamo on Nov 9, 2010 9:16:10 GMT 1
Where's the libel if no individuals are named or implied ?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 9, 2010 9:20:41 GMT 1
How many "recent departures" have there been?
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Post by Pilch on Nov 9, 2010 10:40:15 GMT 1
Just an update There was a 2nd thread moved, heavenlys after a mod pmd me to say he had moved it It's in the dodgy room, I should have looked there i suppose I checked the log and no moves since Janos were registered Sorry for the glitch and wrong info I gave earlier
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Post by nicko on Nov 9, 2010 11:42:47 GMT 1
Don't worry folks we can talk about what we can't talk about on here as much as we want in the pubs before the Southend game.
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Nov 9, 2010 11:57:48 GMT 1
Don't worry folks we can talk about what we can't talk about on here as much as we want in the pubs before the Southend game. Except for in the ********* close to naming his preferred watering hole then
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 9, 2010 11:57:54 GMT 1
This board has gone way too 'Big Brother'
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Post by DaveG on Nov 9, 2010 11:58:08 GMT 1
Don't worry folks we can talk about what we can't talk about on here as much as we want in the pubs before the Southend game. I'll be going straight to the ground Nick - can you take notes please and I'll see you in block 17.
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Post by africanshrew on Nov 9, 2010 12:16:00 GMT 1
This board has gone way too 'Big Brother' Or seen another way the mods are protecting users from getting themselves in the carp and avoiding a whole world of trouble further down the line...
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Post by shrewroo on Nov 9, 2010 12:19:04 GMT 1
Tfh, the conversion rate of the recent TWOTs before this one was very low, so who's to say it wasn't along the same lines? Just imo
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Post by jamo on Nov 9, 2010 13:28:23 GMT 1
How many "recent departures" have there been? Off the top of my head I can think of 3, there maybe more. Anyway, back to my question...
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Post by nickjonesey on Nov 9, 2010 13:32:37 GMT 1
How many "recent departures" have there been? Off the top of my head I can think of 3, there maybe more. Anyway, back to my question... IMO if your thread discloses (or suggests) something which is relatively sensitive regarding the way the duties were (or were not) carried out and that could impact upon the club in a negative way it should be censored. Big brother? possibly. In the club's best interest? probably given the request.
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Post by jamo on Nov 9, 2010 13:43:31 GMT 1
Off the top of my head I can think of 3, there maybe more. Anyway, back to my question... IMO if your thread discloses (or suggests) something which is relatively sensitive regarding the way the duties were (or were not) carried out and that could impact upon the club in a negative way it should be censored. Big brother? possibly. In the club's best interest? probably given the request. I have no big issue with you - or others, having that opinion Nick but where does the `best interest` of an independant messageboard sit within that school of thought ? If contributions to this site are censored at the behest of the clubs media manager purely because of personal friendships, where does that leave this place as a credible alternative to the annodine pap that is drip fed from Fortress Greenhous ?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Nov 9, 2010 13:59:53 GMT 1
What do you suggest them Jamo as an alternative...
Should the club come on here and fomrally request a post to be removed so that its clear for all users to see rathern that as it happens at times coming from people at the club indriectly (and to be fair were talking about a very rare situation when something is removed for the reasons this had been).
The difficult thing with being independant, and having posters who we have never met, or dont know is that should the **** ever hit the fan, its Pilch, Myself, and other the other mods (probabley) that would suffer the reprucussions. I have already had one dressing down over the fanzine issues, and really would it be any different if something else was posted on here that legally caused the club a lot of grief.
My overall concern is that B and A remains independant and free from the shackles of being an STFC owned messageboard, as that is what makes it unique and different. However Im also concerend at times that, some posts may put that in danger in a leagal sence, and there are plenty of examples of football Clubs coming down hard on posts very much like Jamos yesterday?
it might be the time for a resasoned discussion on this and im intresting to here how others would address someone from the club politly asking for a post to be removed?
I will also add, that the mods of this board, just try there best and make calls most days to make this place run better, or a more intresting place to be. If anyone has thoughts on how better it could be done were all ears, its not like stuff happens without comment, or reasoned debate like some messageboards...
Lastly Jamo, to address one point in that thread, your post did not mention the person were all thinking it was related to directly, however at least three other posts in the thread mentioned his name stright away and the discussion moved on, to the role of the club secertry... it was clear instantly who you were reffering to even if you did not mention it... It was at that point it was moved, not before, you will note that Pilch even posted on the thread before it was moved.... thats what im saying we try and play it fair giving everything a chance.
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Post by nickjonesey on Nov 9, 2010 14:00:57 GMT 1
IMO if your thread discloses (or suggests) something which is relatively sensitive regarding the way the duties were (or were not) carried out and that could impact upon the club in a negative way it should be censored. Big brother? possibly. In the club's best interest? probably given the request. I have no big issue with you - or others, having that opinion Nick but where does the `best interest` of an independant messageboard sit within that school of thought ? If contributions to this site are censored at the behest of the clubs media manager purely because of personal friendships, where does that leave this place as a credible alternative to the annodine pap that is drip fed from Fortress Greenhous ? I see your point but we don't know the rationale behind the club's request to remove the post. You mention personal friendships; I would hope that when the request was made it was then deliberated by the mods if the potential consequences of leaving the post in the public domain warranted it's removal. If not, then the post should have been left alone. There will always be a case for this site to be arms length from the club, but there is probably not only black and white, but shades of grey too, which is where the adjudication/ responsibility of the mods comes into play. Keeps things interesting, eh?!?
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Post by Pilch on Nov 9, 2010 14:05:57 GMT 1
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its always been a policy of mine personally that if someone that is directly involved in being mentioned in a thread requests that we make the thread go away, unless they pretty much created the problem themself on the thread then i think its only fair to honour the request
in recent weeks we've done the same for ned & bizzy and over the years have moved quite a few after requests i've had the odd thread about me moved in the past, i can say from experience they are embarrassing and not nice at times and a relief when they vanish
this is not us siding with stfc, we would do the same for anyone i was originally happy for the thread to stay, i'd even replied on it
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Post by jamo on Nov 9, 2010 14:11:04 GMT 1
al its always been a policy of mine personally that if someone that is directly involved in being mentioned in a thread requests that we make the thread go away, unless they pretty much created the problem themself on the thread then i think its only fair to honour the request I respect that pilch. However, that was not the case here was it ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2010 14:13:05 GMT 1
Going back to Jamos original thread, and just toput the cat amongst the pigeons, I heard from a fairly reliable source that the person most were relating to has left the club because he will be taking a post with a club from the Premiership.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 9, 2010 14:16:51 GMT 1
well it involved stfc and they made the request i only wish i knew what you know ;-)
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Nov 9, 2010 14:20:55 GMT 1
well it involved stfc and they made the request i only wish i knew what you know ;-) So the club can request any thread involving stfc is deleted? Really will be a politics discussion forum then!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 9, 2010 14:23:03 GMT 1
come on, we know all about the boy who cried wolf stfc are not that bad thats probably just the 2nd this year i think
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Nov 9, 2010 15:11:42 GMT 1
I'm all for protecting the innocent
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