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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 7:29:05 GMT 1
Well Mr Harris has gone and very dissapointed to read some of the very poor and condeming messages. IMO. So since his arrival what has happened Hosted Numerous England Matches Women and U19 Achieved Football league Family Club Been chosen as a venue for U21 matches if bid by England is successful in 2013 Selected as a training facilty for World Cup 2018 if England bid is successful Hosting a concert by on of the leading musicians in this country. Subject to license. Turned three jobs into one at the Greenhous Meadow (Bickerton/Wellbeloved/Secetary who's name escapes me Stewards trained to a higher standard than most premier league grounds. On a negative side Doesnt open the blue and amber gate early enough on match days Doesnt keep the blue and amber walkway clear of weeds Keeps the west gate locked to stop potential fans viloence for 5 mins too long on match days Not 100% sure as to what his role was in all of the above, but lets see what happens in a few months now he has gone.!! Give the bloke a break and lets see how well his successor or successors do before condeming the man who was working in a very challenging role at the football club and for a challenging owner
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Post by Amsterdammer on Nov 1, 2010 10:24:33 GMT 1
Early contender for suspicious post of the week.
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Post by hello on Nov 1, 2010 10:39:20 GMT 1
Early contender for suspicious post of the week. The week?! I was thinking it was more like the season! Welcome to the board Jon!
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 10:40:42 GMT 1
Why. Because somebody is being positive about his contribution to the football club
Very small minded and bitter.IMO
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Post by Pilch on Nov 1, 2010 10:55:55 GMT 1
I only contacted him once I suggested I get a team from b&a to clean the disgusting seats In return for a kick around on the pitch at the end of the season
He thanked me for the offer and said he would see if his team could do it themselves or if not would get back to me
The seats remained a mess
When I aired the mail months later all that happened was a sarky line in his programme notes
The seats remained filthy
The offer is still open
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Post by Amsterdammer on Nov 1, 2010 10:59:14 GMT 1
Why. Because somebody is being positive about his contribution to the football club Very small minded and bitter.IMO I have no opinion on Mr Harris and his role as I have no idea to what extent he was involved in the decisions you mention. You must agree that it is a little suspicious when someone new arrives and their first contribution is to launch a defence that could be straight out of pravda.
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 11:58:16 GMT 1
Amsterdammer, i am not a new poster I have just created another handle to protect my identity
I am a regular poster under another name, but if i posted under that i could get myself into serious trouble with some people. the gentleman needs to be defended as he was doing an impossible job to the best of his ability and would never have pleased everybody, and he was doing a job thta most of us would loved to be doing at the club we love.
I also do not know what extent he was involved in the decisions for the activity's to which we are/have enjoyed at the club. I am convinced that this will turn out to be not one of Roland's best decisions, letting Mr harris leave.
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Post by shrew4life on Nov 1, 2010 12:04:56 GMT 1
You are page58 and I claim my £5.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 12:20:57 GMT 1
First of all, this is definitely Jon Harris or a friend/relative. I've never seen something so obvious. A bit embarrassing really.
Jon Harris made absolutely no impact upon the match-day experience of the ordinary supporter. He contrived to turn the ground further into a sterile and "family friendly" arena.
I only contacted once, with regard to the mysterious disappearance of the Loggerheads Wembley '07 flag. He assured me he had no idea as to its whereabouts, despite Coca Cola telling me it had been handed to the football club and he personally had been contacted to confirm this. Useless.
Good riddance.
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 12:22:13 GMT 1
Incorrect and no £5
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 12:23:22 GMT 1
Dr Crippen
Very sad to be so bitter
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Post by hello on Nov 1, 2010 12:32:15 GMT 1
Sam the Shrew??
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 1, 2010 12:41:29 GMT 1
It’s a fair list that Monty and what you list above in the is indeed a fair list of achievements for the club. But in what way have any of those achievements benefitted Town fans with regards to their match day experience? Can you provide examples where he has looked at and solved match day issues for the average Town fan, enhanced it? All very well pursuing prestige events for the club but never at the expense of the needs of your own fan base, surely? And Pilch’s post above would suggest he may have been guilty of that or?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 12:47:15 GMT 1
Dr Crippen Very sad to be so bitter Cheers Jon. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 1, 2010 14:07:30 GMT 1
I bet £5 its Matthew Ashton aka Mattsnapper, Billy Scaratt etc.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 1, 2010 14:10:41 GMT 1
I bet £5 its Matthew Ashton aka Mattsnapper, Billy Scaratt etc. i'll bet you £5 your warning goes up to 100% next time to continue hounding matt
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Post by scottsalop on Nov 1, 2010 14:13:10 GMT 1
£10 on ned!
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 1, 2010 14:32:32 GMT 1
I bet £5 its Matthew Ashton aka Mattsnapper, Billy Scaratt etc. i'll bet you £5 your warning goes up to 100% next time to continue hounding matt I get the hint, won't mention him again.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 1, 2010 14:55:38 GMT 1
What does it matter who montygeorge is? Apart from a couple of posts, no-one has actually addressed the points montygeorge raised.
I don't know whether Jon Harris did a good job or not but I've yet to see any reason why I should be waving flags at his departure, just a bunch of sarky remarks.
Seems to me the club has made good progress off the pitch while he's been there (unless you're one of the no-progress-is-good tendency and I know there's a few of those) and he must have had some part in that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 15:04:07 GMT 1
Apply the above list to the remit of the general manager's job and I suspect some will be classed as heavily impacted by him/ his responsibility and others won't.
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 15:26:54 GMT 1
Re stuttgartershrew
Maybe most of that list doesnt help your match day experience, but surely it brings in extra revenue for the club and also means we dont have to sell our best players to survive, as in previous years
And venceremos many thanks for the sensible reply, trying to address the topic i have made instead of trying to guess my id
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 15:53:47 GMT 1
You are page58 and I claim my £5. Oi! Oi! Leave the fiver at the ticket office or the club shop and I'll pick it up at the Southend game. Cheers.
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Post by jamo on Nov 1, 2010 16:27:40 GMT 1
General manager, general secretary, stadium manager, whatever, whatever....
Until things alter higher up the food chain nothing will ever change.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 1, 2010 16:28:09 GMT 1
Re stuttgartershrew Maybe most of that list doesnt help your match day experience, but surely it brings in extra revenue for the club and also means we dont have to sell our best players to survive, as in previous years And venceremos many thanks for the sensible reply, trying to address the topic i have made instead of trying to guess my id I do understand that and again I would say its an impressive list. But then on the other side of the coin you have someone who isn't too happy about sitting in filth during a game, requested not only help but even said they would take on the task themselves and were (by the looks) ignored. And nowt has happened. I just think you might misread the situation when you pop the against the negatives you list above. All very well getting this, that and the other into the stadium but at the end of the day you have to listen and address the concerns of the Town fans...that should be your bread and butter, first and foremost your priority or? Shouldn't lose sight of the folk who turn up week in, week out? But maybe Pilch's experience was a one off, not sure...but its certainly example where he may have taken his eye off the ball...
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Post by montygeorge on Nov 1, 2010 18:01:37 GMT 1
I follow that But was any money available for these things to be cleaned/tidy up
Or as long as Executive and Soverign Areas are ok, then we will have to make do
Maybe these things were out of his control
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 18:08:14 GMT 1
Come on you Blue boys
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 19:38:17 GMT 1
At least this thread contains some good points both for and against John Harris, based on your own perspective of your dealings with him. What i found disgraceful was the character assassination of him, as a person, mostly based on rumours or hearsay. From a personal point of view i thought he brought a lot to the table, but, as we are all human, there have been situations where he has been found wanting.
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Post by keithyshrew25 on Nov 1, 2010 20:49:37 GMT 1
General manager, general secretary, stadium manager, whatever, whatever.... Until things alter higher up the food chain nothing will ever change. Will you stop your whinging about 'higher up the food chain', t was boring a long time ago. Some people just don't know when they've got it good
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2010 21:05:38 GMT 1
General manager, general secretary, stadium manager, whatever, whatever.... Until things alter higher up the food chain nothing will ever change. Will you stop your whinging about 'higher up the food chain', t was boring a long time ago. Some people just don't know when they've got it good To be fair whilst we are lucky to have a chairman who is a supporter of the club with a bit of business nous, he is far from perfect. For starters you have to look at the high personnel turnover in high profile jobs in recent years. The biggest question Id ask though is why did he ask two men connected to the club to perform a review of the club and then those two men leave the club a few months later with none of their recommendations implemented? This isnt a anti Roland post as Im very grateful for what he's done for the club. But it doesnt mean he's immune to criticism As for Jon Harris, as I said on another thread Ive never had any dealings with him and dont know anything about his ability to do the roles he was paid to do. However I never met anyone who had a good word to say about him, although most of those words were related to things happening well before his employment with STFC
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Post by jamo on Nov 1, 2010 21:21:55 GMT 1
Will you stop your whinging about 'higher up the food chain', t was boring a long time ago. Some people just don't know when they've got it good What people would that be then ? And what is it that some people have good ? Ask Villa fans what they had so good when they had the hugely successful business man Doug Ellis in charge and how their club prospered so well under his tenure !!! then downsize a bit and relate it to us. Pretty damn similar story. Some people are easily dazzled by a few puffs of smoke and some mirrors. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Ellis
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