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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 13:55:39 GMT 1
Quite frankly I don't think either club comes out of this fiasco with much credit:- Shrewsbury - For not agreeing to the price reduction in the first place (which they were quite entitled to). Southampton - For the unprofessional way in which they announced this. Coming out with statements like '..over ambitious move designed only to line their pockets' and '..bearing in mind the opposition' is indicative of a touch of arrogance. Surely it would suffice just to announce the reduction of ticket prices without having to rub our noses in it. The atmosphere in the board room at St Marys come lunch time on the 6th Nov will be interesting. It's our chairman having a pop at yours. He banned the Bournemouth chairman for lying about us offering their manager the job at Saints the other week. That said it creates a bit of rivalry and I hope you travel down with good numbers and make some noise. It won't be a big gate with only two stands scheduled to be open, but should exceed 12000 as we always have a good cup support.
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Post by Fingers on Oct 28, 2010 14:01:05 GMT 1
I'm with the club - the same thing happened at Oldham in the JPT earlier this year when Oldham wanted to let people in for free - the club said no but agreed to a heavily reduced price.
In this case who will the decision benefit? I doubt many shrews will be swayed by the lower price as the distance is an obstacle which will block most people whether they can save a £10 or not is irrelative.
Reuce prices sees more saints fans and a more hostile environemnt. We don't travel well and doubt we have budgeted for getting further than round 1 so why should we agree? The Saints powers that be can pedal the spiel regarding'opposition' etc which is in my opinion quite unproffesional.
This only benefits the Saints - shame on you FA.
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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 14:10:59 GMT 1
I'm with the club - the same thing happened at Oldham in the JPT earlier this year when Oldham wanted to let people in for free - the club said no but agreed to a heavily reduced price. In this case who will the decision benefit? I doubt many shrews will be swayed by the lower price as the distance is an obstacle which will block most people whether they can save a £10 or not is irrelative. Reuce prices sees more saints fans and a more hostile environemnt. We don't travel well and doubt we have budgeted for getting further than round 1 so why should we agree? The Saints powers that be can pedal the spiel regarding'opposition' etc which is in my opinion quite unproffesional. This only benefits the Saints - shame on you FA. Are you joking? For a family (be it shrews or saints) you're looking at big saving that will cover a meal or the petrol.
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Post by nicko on Oct 28, 2010 14:28:11 GMT 1
I'll be interested to know if Southampton reduce their ticket prices for the visit of Dagenham & Redbridge or Rochdale. Season ticket holders are entitled to extra tickets at £7.50. www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2155835,00.html And that rewards STH and quiet rightly; after all they are prepared to stump up for a ST with no real idea how a season is going to pan out. But what about the casual Southampton fan, or the ones that, for whatever reason, chose not to buy a ST? To charge those prices at this level of football, then for your club to get on its moral high horse at our Club over FA Cup pricing is rank hypocrisy.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Oct 28, 2010 14:56:00 GMT 1
Having thought about it a bit more, I think for Saints to go public about us wanting to "line our pockets" is an absolute disgrace.
Look at their financial record in the last 5-10 years.
Look at ours.
They peed away premiership riches and nearly disappeared.
We have always paid the bills.
Lining pockets sounds like personal profit rather than helping provide finance towards a promotion push. Very shoddy that.
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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 15:03:52 GMT 1
And that rewards STH and quiet rightly; after all they are prepared to stump up for a ST with no real idea how a season is going to pan out. But what about the casual Southampton fan, or the ones that, for whatever reason, chose not to buy a ST? To charge those prices at this level of football, then for your club to get on its moral high horse at our Club over FA Cup pricing is rank hypocrisy. We always reduce cup prices for noddy opposition. Look at it from our point of view - Shrewbury is as unatractive a fixture as there is.
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Post by nicko on Oct 28, 2010 15:08:35 GMT 1
And if that promotion push was successful and we played them in the league next season we'd have to pay full price.
Mind you considering the opposition they may reduce the admission.....
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Post by nicko on Oct 28, 2010 15:18:33 GMT 1
And that rewards STH and quiet rightly; after all they are prepared to stump up for a ST with no real idea how a season is going to pan out. But what about the casual Southampton fan, or the ones that, for whatever reason, chose not to buy a ST? To charge those prices at this level of football, then for your club to get on its moral high horse at our Club over FA Cup pricing is rank hypocrisy. We always reduce cup prices for noddy opposition. Look at it from our point of view - Shrewbury is as unatractive a fixture as there is. Fixtures between 3rd and 4th division clubs usually are. But leave aside your clubs point of view; do you not think that charging your prices for 3rd division games and then trying to gain some sort of moral high ground about our Club "lining its pockets" is hypocrisy of the highest order?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 28, 2010 15:26:00 GMT 1
Go and support Telford then if you don't like it. Well said. Exalted. Or Cardiff!?
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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 15:28:33 GMT 1
We always reduce cup prices for noddy opposition. Look at it from our point of view - Shrewbury is as unatractive a fixture as there is. Fixtures between 3rd and 4th division clubs usually are. But leave aside your clubs point of view; do you not think that charging your prices for 3rd division games and then trying to gain some sort of moral high ground about our Club "lining its pockets" is hypocrisy of the highest order? I think our prices are in the accepted ball park for L2. What you are forgetting is that we're not talking about a league fixture - we're talking about a first round fa cup game - for 30 odd years we didn't enter until the 3rd round - so it's not an attractive game. If we'd have drawn an exciting tie then maybe higher prices could've been asked, but we didn't get that, we drew you.
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Post by mrmagoo on Oct 28, 2010 15:29:44 GMT 1
Sloppy Star on the band wagon now... Slow News Day I Guess.. Link------> Sloppy
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 28, 2010 15:52:46 GMT 1
To charge those prices at this level of football, then for your club to get on its moral high horse at our Club over FA Cup pricing is rank hypocrisy. Couldn't agree more.
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Post by nicko on Oct 28, 2010 16:05:30 GMT 1
Fixtures between 3rd and 4th division clubs usually are. But leave aside your clubs point of view; do you not think that charging your prices for 3rd division games and then trying to gain some sort of moral high ground about our Club "lining its pockets" is hypocrisy of the highest order? I think our prices are in the accepted ball park for L2. What you are forgetting is that we're not talking about a league fixture - we're talking about a first round fa cup game - for 30 odd years we didn't enter until the 3rd round - so it's not an attractive game. If we'd have drawn an exciting tie then maybe higher prices could've been asked, but we didn't get that, we drew you. The most expensive ticket at Sheffield Wednesday is £27, on a par with you. Charlton's most expensive ticket is £25, D&R is £22, Yeovil/'Dale £20. Of course being noddy D&R, 'Dale and Yeovil have terracing making football even cheaper as do most other 3rd division sides. But I don't care about the other teams in the 3rd division, they haven't been disrespectful to another professional football club. The question is are Southampton being hypocritical? Do they reduce the prices for all fans against bottom of the league noddy sides or sides that have had to play in the first round of the FA Cup for the past 30 years? Rochdale maybe?
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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 16:12:26 GMT 1
[/img] Link------> Sloppy [/quote] So your greedy little club have ensured everyone pays £5 more than we should have.
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Post by sfc on Oct 28, 2010 16:15:35 GMT 1
I think our prices are in the accepted ball park for L2. What you are forgetting is that we're not talking about a league fixture - we're talking about a first round fa cup game - for 30 odd years we didn't enter until the 3rd round - so it's not an attractive game. If we'd have drawn an exciting tie then maybe higher prices could've been asked, but we didn't get that, we drew you. The most expensive ticket at Sheffield Wednesday is £27, on a par with you. Charlton's most expensive ticket is £25, D&R is £22, Yeovil/'Dale £20. Of course being noddy D&R, 'Dale and Yeovil have terracing making football even cheaper as do most other 3rd division sides. But I don't care about the other teams in the 3rd division, they haven't been disrespectful to another professional football club. The question is are Southampton being hypocritical? Do they reduce the prices for all fans against bottom of the league noddy sides or sides that have had to play in the first round of the FA Cup for the past 30 years? Rochdale maybe? I bet you don't go to games.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 28, 2010 16:20:16 GMT 1
I can see why Southampton might want to reduce prices, I remember the annoyance on here at being charged full price to watch us lose against Staines last year.
But the Southampton spin on it is disgraceful, unprofessional, disrespectful and utterly demeaning on us, making us look like the nasty bad guys.
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Post by nicko on Oct 28, 2010 16:21:33 GMT 1
The most expensive ticket at Sheffield Wednesday is £27, on a par with you. Charlton's most expensive ticket is £25, D&R is £22, Yeovil/'Dale £20. Of course being noddy D&R, 'Dale and Yeovil have terracing making football even cheaper as do most other 3rd division sides. But I don't care about the other teams in the 3rd division, they haven't been disrespectful to another professional football club. The question is are Southampton being hypocritical? Do they reduce the prices for all fans against bottom of the league noddy sides or sides that have had to play in the first round of the FA Cup for the past 30 years? Rochdale maybe? I bet you don't go to games. Brilliant argument. The classic football forum comeback, genius my friend. I do as it happens, got a ST and I had the privilege to pay £19 for a ticket for the Crewe game on Tuesday, despite paying £16 to see us lose on Saturday at Chesterfield. Anyway now you've shown your true colours I can ignore your further postings.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 28, 2010 16:37:06 GMT 1
Saints can kiss my hairy arse. I really don’t understand that statement or appreciate the tone I get from it. So what about all those other games that are going on around November? Why don’t they let the good folk of Southampton attend for nowt if they want to reward their loyal fans?!?! Then the plebs and proles will have plenty of spare cash to take in the visit of Town if they want. Again we see a club expecting Shrewsbury to be the one that takes the cut in earnings. Why? Why not go and select another game and make that cheap as chips or make it free? And hark at them, bearing in mind the opposition…they are only one league above us. Does make me chuckle when you get clubs having a pop at the other for not agreeing a cut in earnings, it really does…if your that desperate to help your fans then let them in for nothing for a league game and give yer season ticket holders a refund for that one game. Then it’s only Southampton who are losing out on cash, not the opposition too. Rum.
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Post by mlt on Oct 28, 2010 17:08:49 GMT 1
I can understand Shrewsbury wanting tickets to cost £25. The attendance would have been about 5,000, making the ground seem almost empty, which would have increased the chances of Shrewsbury winning and getting a TV match in the next round (or possibly a replay on TV).
Southampton want to make as much money as possible from this game (making the fans happy is just a bonus), and would have got an attendance of about 20,000 with tickets at £10 (which your local paper says that we wanted to charge), with fans also buying food, drink, programmes etc. Unfortunately, gate receipts will probably be lower with tickets at £15 than at £10, but both clubs should still make more money from the game than if tickets had been £25..
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Post by madrigal on Oct 28, 2010 17:16:42 GMT 1
A bit rich to call us money grabbing. Isn't it Southampton that charged photographers a fee and led to newspapers from Swindon and Plymouth using animation to describe the action?
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Post by Pilch on Oct 28, 2010 17:24:35 GMT 1
And that rewards STH and quiet rightly; after all they are prepared to stump up for a ST with no real idea how a season is going to pan out. But what about the casual Southampton fan, or the ones that, for whatever reason, chose not to buy a ST? To charge those prices at this level of football, then for your club to get on its moral high horse at our Club over FA Cup pricing is rank hypocrisy. We always reduce cup prices for noddy opposition. Look at it from our point of view - Shrewbury is as unatractive a fixture as there is. last time we played you in the cup in the 90s you were a big team and had a great little ground we were a side struggling at a dump we both now have new grounds our future is secure you are struggling one of these days there is going to be a high tide and saints, pompey and bournemouth will all be gone oh and we beat you in that last cup tie good luck
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Post by Fingers on Oct 28, 2010 17:28:48 GMT 1
Link------> £££££££Agree with all of the above - the stance of Southampton is extremely unproffessional and if they wanted to 'reward loyal fans' why not make a league game cheaper, afterall the league is the priority? It also shows they acknowledge overpriced tickets in order to come up with this pricing scheme. Wonder what would happen If Man United wanted to charge £5 for a third round tie at home to the saints? Don't get me wrong I was going to this match regardless and I would have paid £25 if that's what it cost to get in so technically I am £10 better off. However the home support is going to be greater now which may make this less of an opportunity to progress. Who knows perhaps our boys will do ok on the road against a higher league opposition . . . .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 17:43:28 GMT 1
On the face of it, its Southampton trying to be nice to the fans and giving them a cheap ticket whereas little old Shrewsbury Town are being greedy and trying to exploit the fans as much as they can.
In reality its Southampton realising that this is an unattractive fixture so are trying to get as many fans in as possible. Dont give me the "we want to reward our fans", its nothing like that at all. They know that they will have a low crowd so they want to attract more fans which is of course good business sense, but not being done out of the goodness of their heart.
As for us, we dont come out of it very well and not many people can deny it. The question is did we want to completely knock reduced prices on the head or were against simply going down to £10. If its the latter I dont have a problem with. If they wanted to charge normal matchday prices then I dont think I can defend them really.
Of course theres part of me that would like to have to pay £10, rather than £15 (if I decide to go) and it seems the club I support is to blame for that. However just like Southampton, we have our business brain on and we shouldnt be prepared to play the tiny amateruish club that is over-awed by the mighty Southampton
Personally I was siding with Southampton on this until I saw the comment "Bearing in mind the opposition" on the official website. I expect that sort of arrogance off fans but to have it on an official website, well i just hope its pinned up on the away dressing room wall
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Post by jaytee on Oct 28, 2010 17:57:07 GMT 1
Saints can kiss my hairy arse. Snap. I'm not going now. Stick it where the sun don't shine.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 28, 2010 18:11:24 GMT 1
Personally I was siding with Southampton on this until I saw the comment "Bearing in mind the opposition" on the official website. I expect that sort of arrogance off fans but to have it on an official website, well i just hope its pinned up on the away dressing room wall My thoughts to - Southampton will know how receptive fans are to ticket prices affecting attendances at St Mary's and if they think lower ticket prices will lead to a much bigger attendance that's fine. However the childish statement on their website is very poor from any club nevermind one that has aspirations to get back on the premier league. Any negotiations between to two clubs over ticket prices shouldn't be editorialised by their media manager. Hopefully the club will have a word with them and alter it. It's also breaking one of the golden rules of footy about not being smug about lower league opposition as it tend to come back and bite you on the bum!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 18:28:22 GMT 1
On the face of it, its Southampton trying to be nice to the fans and giving them a cheap ticket whereas little old Shrewsbury Town are being greedy and trying to exploit the fans as much as they can. In reality its Southampton realising that this is an unattractive fixture so are trying to get as many fans in as possible. Dont give me the "we want to reward our fans", its nothing like that at all. They know that they will have a low crowd so they want to attract more fans which is of course good business sense, but not being done out of the goodness of their heart. As for us, we dont come out of it very well and not many people can deny it. The question is did we want to completely knock reduced prices on the head or were against simply going down to £10. If its the latter I dont have a problem with. If they wanted to charge normal matchday prices then I dont think I can defend them really. Of course theres part of me that would like to have to pay £10, rather than £15 (if I decide to go) and it seems the club I support is to blame for that. However just like Southampton, we have our business brain on and we shouldnt be prepared to play the tiny amateruish club that is over-awed by the mighty Southampton Personally I was siding with Southampton on this until I saw the comment "Bearing in mind the opposition" on the official website. I expect that sort of arrogance off fans but to have it on an official website, well i just hope its pinned up on the away dressing room wall Extremely well put. All this, " for the fans benefit" bollox. If the mighty Southampton eventually draw a Man Utd type team in future rounds, by their stance, i would expect a massive price reduction as a treat for their beloved fans and others. It may suprise the tosspot to know that they are not a team we hold in any awe, just a run of the mill 3rd division side who play miles from anywhere. Would much prefer to play Portsmouth, maybe later on in the competition. If they win, pray they get Carlisle away...... maybe the Chairman will pay for the travelling fans expenses, my arse.
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Post by timgallon on Oct 28, 2010 19:01:13 GMT 1
Breathtaking arrogance from the Saints in that statement. As been mentioned which team have been financally sound in recent years.
On the plus side though the travelling Salop fans will get in for a tenner less, Im sure the "bearing in mind the opposition" quote will fire up the Team and if we do win it will make the victory that much more sweeter.
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Post by albionshrew on Oct 28, 2010 19:51:19 GMT 1
Can I turn up on the day and buy my ticket?
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Post by onthetrain92 on Oct 28, 2010 20:10:19 GMT 1
lets be honest town have come out of this far better off than they would of if they just said nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2010 20:14:08 GMT 1
What a horrible little club we are becoming. You mean become, we became a horrible disgusting corporate machine the day we left the Gay Meadow.....my old man was spot on when he said the club will lose its heart and soul when it moves.
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