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Post by shrew54 on Sept 5, 2010 15:26:46 GMT 1
I'm astounded he used the word cheated, I'd love to know what he meant Neal made 2 or 3 good saves but we restricted them to shots from the edge of the box. I agree with the posters about us first half, we should have gone in at least 2 up, but we did look tired after 60 mins, but we defended like a good team should. That's two 1-0 wins where we have had to ground it out, which shows we can do what's necessary to get points, bodes well for the season
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Post by Slackbladder on Sept 5, 2010 16:58:55 GMT 1
As stated elsewhere Moore has always been a right whinger remember him playing for Cardiff at the Meadow moaning and whining his way through the game. Unfortunately he had the last laugh by scoring their goal. I can understand his comments about the "worldies" by CN even though I wouldn't agree with either his assessment or the number of saves made. It is part of his job to build up his players confidence and lift the team and supporters. What I can't understand is the cheating comment. If he meant that they didn't track back (and who knows apart from him) that is absolutely nothing to do with him as I would hope Lionel and Wrighty were playing to a team plan. If he meant that they were looking for free kicks then a) I can't recall either of them going down easily all afternoon and b) any manager with Le Fondre in his team is taking the p!55 if he comments on the cheating ability of another teams players.
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Post by blum on Sept 5, 2010 20:06:17 GMT 1
And, apparently Lionel miskicked the shot for the goal... I used to think RM was a decent sort, however, in that interview he has made me change my mind Kn0b...
I seem to remember another manager from a yorkshire team accusing us of celebrating like we'd won the FA cup!! It's called passion you dipstick...
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Sept 6, 2010 9:28:00 GMT 1
I have to agree with Ronnie, we do have 2 wingers that cheat.
Seeing as most wingers in this League can either run with the ball or cross it, but not both. Where as ours can do both.
A clear cut case of cheating in my book ;D
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Sept 6, 2010 12:48:20 GMT 1
Cheat? How? If he wants a better example he'd better look at the fingerprints on Matt Harrold's shirt. Absolutely!! There was more than one incidence of shirt pulling Sheila Downes and I got a good view of these- Unlike Mr Kettle, obviously!
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Post by venceremos on Sept 6, 2010 13:28:20 GMT 1
He refers to our wingers cheating and does come across a little irked that his side came away empty handed. However in context the reference to cheating just means he saw on various occasions our wingers would not track with there full backs. Its a bit of a gamble on our part but it means when teams lose possesion against us we are able to counter attack effectively. Nothing to get to excited about and messers Lampard, Lennon and Walcott can be found cheating most weeks! Maybe "cheating" wasn't meant to be taken literally, as poolieshrew says. The post below was from a Rotherham fan on BBC 606 (not the only one either) and makes the same point. That has to be right, there was nothing the wingers were doing that could literally be thought of as cheating. Something's been lost in the translation from Yorkshire! No need for any hard feelings. "I think a few of your guys are misinterpreting what Ronnie meant when he was saying your wingers were cheating. When he says your wingers were cheating he is saying they are cheating as in...not doing there job properly defensively i.e. not tracking back with the Rotherham wingers or Full backs and staying further up the pitch, he is actually paying you guys a compliment by saying your wingers cheated as it was quite clearly giving our full backs problems. Its quite a common phrase in football suprised you guys have not heard that before. Great game Saturday though boys, you guys play some pretty decent stuff. hopefully (touch wood) we will both be up there come the end of the season."
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Post by blum on Sept 6, 2010 13:34:46 GMT 1
He refers to our wingers cheating and does come across a little irked that his side came away empty handed. However in context the reference to cheating just means he saw on various occasions our wingers would not track with there full backs. Its a bit of a gamble on our part but it means when teams lose possesion against us we are able to counter attack effectively. Nothing to get to excited about and messers Lampard, Lennon and Walcott can be found cheating most weeks! Maybe "cheating" When he says your wingers were cheating he is saying they are cheating as in...not doing there job properly defensively i.e. not tracking back with the Rotherham wingers or Full backs and staying further up the pitch, I think he'll find it'd called tactics
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Post by salopian5 on Sept 6, 2010 19:45:05 GMT 1
'Cheating' is a term more often found in American commentary,usually meaning acting on what you think is just about to happen,to get a jump on those who are waiting to see what happens before they act.Risky,but an advantage if you guess right.
If I was Ronnie Moore,I'd be asking myself why I started with the big man upfront (Elliot?).The Millers only started playing when he went off injured.How long would Moore have left it without the injury? They'd still be humping useless long balls to him now to no effect.
For all Millers,Shots,and Potters territorial dominance over us at various times during our games,it's mostly just led to shots from outside the box,rather than clear cut chances.If opposing managers are happy with that,so am I.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2010 22:31:04 GMT 1
He refers to our wingers cheating and does come across a little irked that his side came away empty handed. However in context the reference to cheating just means he saw on various occasions our wingers would not track with there full backs. Its a bit of a gamble on our part but it means when teams lose possesion against us we are able to counter attack effectively. Nothing to get to excited about and messers Lampard, Lennon and Walcott can be found cheating most weeks! Maybe "cheating" wasn't meant to be taken literally, as poolieshrew says. Surprised by how many have taken offence by Moore's cheating comments - the two posters above however have got it spot on.
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