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Post by poolieshrew on Jul 13, 2010 20:13:31 GMT 1
When alls said and done not every signing gt makes is going to hit the bullseye however the squads beginning to take shape and in Harold we have a solid forward with a ton of upside to work with.expect next few signings to be loans to complete our promotion jigsaw!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2010 7:26:07 GMT 1
What about that Albert from Barnet, Rhodes who was with Brentford, Benson, Strevens - who is now at WW (replacing who I wonder in some way?) Robinson, - that is a wish list for a start - but accepted it might be dreaming :-) We were of course flashing £100K at Barnet in January weren't we - and that sum of money has not been spent yet - so someone truly in that bracket? We tried to sign Benson, he turned us down We tried to sign O'Flynn, he turned us down If your talking Jordan Rhodes who was at Brentford. He scored 19 goals for Huddersfield last season. I doubt he would come to us, nor could we afford him If you are on about Albert Adomah from Barnet he has gone to Bristol City so never a realistic signing but he was a winger Strevens at Wycombe has scored 86 goals in 286 games. Far from prolific and I wouldnt consider him a wow, Grant Holt signing Yes last season was boring but I still dont understand the fascination with wow strikers you want. Im my opinion Cureton was one of them but failed dismally because of the service he got
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 8:08:43 GMT 1
Yes, I know the history of our dealings - was quoting these as examples of the types of strikers I would like to see - not these dudes themselves!
Cureton was a total flop - agreed. His signing did not excite me in the first place. There was no recent grounds to see that he was going to be any use at all - so it proved.
The fascination with wow strikers is: (i) they hopefully score, (ii) we win (iii) they are good to watch, (iv) they create that buzz of anticipation when they get the ball, (v) I don't cringe when the ball bounces off their shin back to the oppo, (vi) we have a top 3 season, .... I could go on :-)
We now have another distinctly less than average striker to add to those we have already wasted time, energy and heaps of cash on.
Hope I am wrong though :-)
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Post by Throbbing Gristle on Jul 14, 2010 8:35:39 GMT 1
From my Wycombe season ticket holder mate.....
I think our expectations were too high, potential is there but never really shone at Wycombe, I must admit there used to be a huge collective sigh of relief when he wasnt on the team sheet , solid penalty taker and pretty good finisher...if he gets the ball rather than standing around with a gallic style shrug to the linesman or ref..., if he gets good service could have a good season,
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 8:36:51 GMT 1
Thank you Throbbing Gristle - my point entirely!!
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Post by Shrewed on Jul 14, 2010 8:56:01 GMT 1
It always amazes me that posters seem to heap praise on a signing when at best they have seen a player twice.
Too often players are described has heros or villians much to early in their career. Football is a game of 11 players and how they interact decide whether a team is successful or not. One WOW signing does not a team make as was proved by the signing of Holt, in fact in some cases it can detract from the team.
MH is not a WOW signing, his record suggests that in terms of scoring he is similar to Elder and Hibbert. Will he improve the Town front line - I dont know will probably depend on the style of play and the attacking players along side him.
Personally I am waiting for the player who is going to add pace to the team and the player that will create at opportunites for the team to score.
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Post by camdenshrew on Jul 14, 2010 9:27:59 GMT 1
Perhaps the £100,000 we were due to spend on John O'Flynn is no longer there to spend.....after being given to Paul Simpson as a pay-off?
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Post by africanshrew on Jul 14, 2010 9:52:09 GMT 1
Perhaps the £100,000 we were due to spend on John O'Flynn is no longer there to spend.....after being given to Paul Simpson as a pay-off? Good point. There must be a decent chance of the Joe Hart cash coming in Sept but that's after the window has closed. The policy might be to build a decent squad now with frees and loans then push on in Jan if we're in the mix for promotion. All that said, if we're in talks with Diagouraga then we must have agreed a fee and that would surely be six figures as they paid £200k for him.
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Jul 14, 2010 10:19:03 GMT 1
Out of interest, what sort of striker were you expecting/would impress you? david villa at least... a reasonable striker at this level David Villa wouldn't want him 5'8" to short. Goes for goal all the time, doesn't pass it. Doesn't talk English, so communication problems. And to top the list a silly goatee.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jul 14, 2010 10:33:58 GMT 1
OK OK guys!! Benefit of the doubt will be given. But would like a striker who scores for a start!! Yes am happy with Sharps, Sadler Raven - and that Hibbo has gone tbh. However, I would rate last season's Hibbo above Harrold Perhaps it was only me then who was bored stiff post February What about that Albert from Barnet, Rhodes who was with Brentford, Benson, Strevens - who is now at WW (replacing who I wonder in some way?) Robinson, - that is a wish list for a start - but accepted it might be dreaming :-) We were of course flashing £100K at Barnet in January weren't we - and that sum of money has not been spent yet - so someone truly in that bracket? Maybe, just maybe Tommy Bradshaw might give the exhilerating forwaed dimension which I crave. re may age - erm mid 50s ... so there is less time left for me to see some success (again!) than you young uns!!! Up the Town!! No you weren't the only one bored stiff in February, but the manager has gone now and I expect more entertainment now. If you're in your 50's then I don't understand how you don't seem to have some sense of realism of where we lie in the footballing pyramid, but instead sound like one of the newer 'premiership era fans' who just thinks we can bring in whoever we like and demands instant success. Shrewsbury Town has never been one for spending big, apart from one season where we splashed the cash. Christ in the time I've been a Shrewsbury fan I've seen us relegated 5 times and promoted 2 times, if that doesn't give you some perspective I don't know what does. And by far the best striker I've seen play for us was a complete unknown at the time we signed him - as far from a 'wow' signing as possible - John McGinlay - who arrived from Scottish non league Elgin City.
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Post by ambergambler on Jul 14, 2010 11:04:13 GMT 1
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Post by Liam on Jul 14, 2010 11:14:41 GMT 1
Good point this - if we're to dig up a free-scoring striker that we can realistically afford, the best way to do it seems to be by doing some proper scouting (for the first time in 2-3 years), have a look further down the pyramid and maybe take a gamble.
There are plenty of excellent lower-league goalscorers that have been recruited from non-league. Dagenham's incredible rise under John Still is almost entirely down to this type of transfer policy. Paul Benson, for example, was signed from a team at level 11 of the football pyramid (that's 6 leagues below the Conference).
No doubt the player in question would instantly get written of as "non-league" by some if we were to try something similar. However, this isn't Championship Manager and fast, 20+ goal a season strikers are always going to attract the attention of clubs in higher leagues, meaning it's hardly a formality for us to just go out and sign one.
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Post by siabod on Jul 14, 2010 11:17:54 GMT 1
Good point this - if we're to dig up a free-scoring striker that we can realistically afford, the best way to do it seems to be by doing some proper scouting (for the first time in 2-3 years), have a look further down the pyramid and maybe take a gamble. There are plenty of excellent lower-league goalscorers that have been recruited from non-league. Dagenham's incredible rise under John Still is almost entirely down to this type of transfer policy. Paul Benson, for example, was signed from a team at level 11 of the football pyramid (that's 6 leagues below the Conference). No doubt the player in question would instantly get written of as "non-league" by some if we were to try something similar. However, this isn't Championship Manager and fast, 20+ goal a season strikers are always going to attract the attention of clubs in higher leagues, meaning it's hardly a formality for us to just go out and sign one. Agree, but just remember the "stick" they have to take when they get here - remember Constable.
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Post by siabod on Jul 14, 2010 11:19:33 GMT 1
Yes, I know the history of our dealings - was quoting these as examples of the types of strikers I would like to see - not these dudes themselves! Cureton was a total flop - agreed. His signing did not excite me in the first place. There was no recent grounds to see that he was going to be any use at all - so it proved. The fascination with wow strikers is: (i) they hopefully score, (ii) we win (iii) they are good to watch, (iv) they create that buzz of anticipation when they get the ball, (v) I don't cringe when the ball bounces off their shin back to the oppo, (vi) we have a top 3 season, .... I could go on :-) We now have another distinctly less than average striker to add to those we have already wasted time, energy and heaps of cash on. Hope I am wrong though :-) Re (v) You have forgotten Derek Dooley then.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 14, 2010 12:07:29 GMT 1
Decent signing: knows this level well
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 12:07:37 GMT 1
If you're in your 50's then I don't understand how you don't seem to have some sense of realism of where we lie in the footballing pyramid, but instead sound like one of the newer 'premiership era fans' who just thinks we can bring in whoever we like and demands instant success. Shrewsbury Town has never been one for spending big, apart from one season where we splashed the cash. Of course, but I guess in the light of getting Holty and the £100K figures bandied around twice now, my expectations have been changed from those of yonder year!! Frank Clarke for me!! :-)
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Jul 14, 2010 12:12:56 GMT 1
Any chance of any exhilaration in this signing AmblerGambler - or a another donkey for our burgeoning stable?
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Post by stfcfan87 on Jul 14, 2010 12:51:28 GMT 1
Of course, but I guess in the light of getting Holty and the £100K figures bandied around twice now, my expectations have been changed from those of yonder year!! Frank Clarke for me!! :-) Well my expectation levels haven't changed too much. Yes we splashed the cash on Holt, but it was only a season until we sold him. And the thing with those £100k figures is that neither came off, but i certainly don't expect or demand us to go blowing our entire budget on one person
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Post by ambergambler on Jul 14, 2010 13:11:26 GMT 1
Any chance of any exhilaration in this signing AmblerGambler - or a another donkey for our burgeoning stable? Watch this Stable Peter!!
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Post by blueandamber on Jul 14, 2010 17:39:05 GMT 1
Pleased with this signing, today has eben a great day for news and positive thins at STFC. Can't wait for the new season now.
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Post by blueandamberatkins on Jul 14, 2010 19:53:24 GMT 1
Happy with this, personally belive that our youths will play a decent role this coming season, heard good things about Jon Taylor on the wing, heard and seen great thing from Bradshaw, a good defender in the other Taylor etc, and with this GT may bring in some loans to further strengthen us, should be a good season (touchwood).
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