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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2004 21:11:06 GMT 1
I along with many others sang that as loud as possible at the end of the game today.
The players looked at us, I hope they took it in.
A discraceful performance. If only the players put in half as much effort as the fans did.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2004 21:13:12 GMT 1
It's the first time I've booed a Town team off.
That's the worst Town display I've ever seen and they rightly got bags of stick.
Although I still believe the calls for Quinn's head on a platter are ridiculous.
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Post by DiggerDave on Jan 3, 2004 21:15:44 GMT 1
Things must be bad Loyal Shrew.I ve never seen you say a word against the players before.I am seriously shocked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2004 21:17:11 GMT 1
You obviously haven't been reading with too much attention Dave
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Jan 3, 2004 21:18:10 GMT 1
When I put Quinn Out I actually wanted to phrase it better in the thread, but could'nt change the title. I do think though that the roles of Bates and Cooke have to be looked into at that one of their wages could be used to pay for a left back.
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Post by R6ix on Jan 3, 2004 23:30:07 GMT 1
you booing sir Ant i dont belive it?
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Post by R6ix on Jan 3, 2004 23:31:33 GMT 1
and old man rivers ? wots his part in this charade? quinny cookey bates and rivers?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 3, 2004 23:38:01 GMT 1
I was so outraged that i was giving Quinny both barrels of what i thought for about the last 10 mins - and i know it makes not a bit of differenec but the anger was too much for me - for the first time ever i wnet down the front at the end to tell the players my thoughts - I thought oconners face was a picture at the end when there were warming down he looked up and was wondereing why the fans were not leaving - well he nowknows whats coming now if they dont pick up and start playing better
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Post by texmexshrew on Jan 4, 2004 0:25:04 GMT 1
agreed it must have been bad for ant to boo the team!!!
some of the s**te dished up last yr deserved it Ant!!
The calls for JQ's head are harsh, but there are continuining problems which have not been addressed since the 1st day of the season.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 4, 2004 1:21:03 GMT 1
It's the first time I've booed a Town team off. That's the worst Town display I've ever seen and they rightly got bags of stick. Although I still believe the calls for Quinn's head on a platter are ridiculous. I have to say Ant, if even you turned against them after that, then I dread to think what the future holds but again you are right, a kick up the rear end is needed, not a wholesale change
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 4, 2004 10:43:47 GMT 1
Somebody must take responsibility for this. We need to ask questions NOW . Why with the best squad in the conference do we accept such results, because by just posting on here we are accepting such results This has been coming but i think you will find that by defending it (excuses) we as supporters are also papering over the cracks. What is really going on behind the scenes, it's not a happy camp thats obvious. So why is it not a happy camp and where do these "kicks up the rear" need to occur if wholesale changes are not required ?
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Jan 4, 2004 10:53:21 GMT 1
Its the same at all clubs. We the fans never get to know what is going on behind the scenes. Why do you say Frankwell CP that it is not a happy camp Do you have some inside information It is worth remembering that our best two players Luke and Jamie have missed alot of games this season. Get those two fit and we will have two fresh players for the run in. The sign of a good team is how they bounce back. Lets see.
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 4, 2004 11:04:21 GMT 1
It's as plain as the hand infront of your face that it ain't a happy camp. Ah yes Jamie and Luke another excuse. We bounced back after losing 6-0 last season by winning 4-1, so what did that tell us Why not call a fans forum to ask the questions? It would never happen or at least the people who we would like to direct our questions at wouldn't be there or the right questions wouldn't be allowed to be asked.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Jan 4, 2004 11:10:53 GMT 1
Frankwell try to be a bit more positive mate. I know yesterday hurts. I am not using Jamie and Luke as an excuse but they are quaility, and to be honest I cannot see it as a unhappy camp. What have you seen or heard
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 4, 2004 12:12:08 GMT 1
I have seen and heard alot You will never get me to post that on here, sorry but that will never happen All i am saying are positive words need positive reaction. I personally am not positive, because i thought i could see it coming. Yesterday has been on the cards for months now but our results in a very poor league have covered this over. I think somebody else has said it's a transition period at the club currently. But the disappointing thing is that with what we have thrown at it (financially) and the quality we have brought in, it is not unreasonable to expect success
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 4, 2004 12:28:41 GMT 1
Yes i agree its not too much to expect better than this FrankwellCP, simply the last few week have been uneceptable and i am not afraid tio say that i see this seasaon ending utter failer now. Positve frames of mind are gained from positve performances and i still belive that the reaction to yesterday is backed up by previous form in the lst few weeks so no body can say it was a fluke. We nee to be at least 2nd in this leage in my mind and i dont think that is asking for too much
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Jan 4, 2004 12:32:17 GMT 1
The next 3 or 4 games are now, without a doubt, Quinn's biggest test
More performances and results like yesterday will result in a loss of faith and fans beginning to turn on him in numbers
Stand up and be counted Jimmy, the words after the match yesterday sounded good, but can you back them up with results?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 4, 2004 12:37:00 GMT 1
The worst thing is that not only will fans turn on him - they will simpliy stop turing up for games - we gained a number of new home and away fans this season and it would be good to keep there intrest in the club for the future finacial heath of the club but if this continues not only are we spoiling our chances of going up but the whole of the futur of the club could be in trouble
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Post by peterjones1 on Jan 4, 2004 12:38:58 GMT 1
I have seen and heard alot You will never get me to post that on here, sorry but that will never happen Well whats the point in telling us you know something then? Im sorry but the amount of people who have come on here claiming to be in the know, yet when questioned dont say a thing, I for one have just given up believing the validity of these claims. Unless of course you are just keeping it off the net and telling people in person, then obviously I cant argue, Ive just noticed in the past that some people only seem to post after defeats or when they want to moan, Im not saying that people shouldnt be allowed to vent anger but they could at least play it both ways and get on here to credit the guys when they deserve it as well. Apologies for that little rant apart fom that Frankwell I agree with everything you said, we undoubtedly have the quality players at our disposal, the fans deserve alot better than we are getting atm. Football league prices for what sometimes barely merits Unibond football.
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Jan 4, 2004 12:43:14 GMT 1
I have to agree with Pete there, if they know something say it or stop spreading pointless gossip that wont do any good in the long run.
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 4, 2004 12:55:36 GMT 1
JP by not passing comment i have refrained from spreading gossip. Gossip is made up of truth, half truth, hearsay, rumour and untruth. "It is not a happy camp" is a true statement. Why that means you have to know where that came from i don't know
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Jan 4, 2004 12:57:55 GMT 1
Point is, we hear its an unhappy camp from various sources, but not one provides reason why it isnt and who told them. Then at the end of the day it just sounds like sour grapes/malicous rumours.....see my point?
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Post by peterjones1 on Jan 4, 2004 13:03:04 GMT 1
JP is right, we are not accusing of you of lying obviously, your posts suggest you know your stuff.
Its just the amount of people in the past you say things like 'well i was talking to someone high up in the club and he told me stuff' etc. but then vanish without explaining, surely you can understand us being a bit wary by now?
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 4, 2004 13:05:37 GMT 1
The only evidence for an unhappy camp so far if that can be validated are
1) Players have been travleing to games in own cars which is not fostering a good team spirt and possibly creating splits and cliqes of players
2) some players are looking unhappy - rodgers (the whole shirt thing) Cramb (the odd baby tantrum) and Dearby (allthe time)
3) In the last few games players have been snapping at each other (Astion and Banim and everyone and Gregor)
Thants it really is that enough to say there is a bad spirt and unhappy camp - I honestly dont know
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Post by Shakey_in_Herts on Jan 4, 2004 13:23:53 GMT 1
JP and Pete i totally understand where you are coming from with this. Always be wary of what you hear, but just because we don't like what is said doesn't mean we dismiss it as gossip or rumour. JP i think you will find that the same person who told me about this, may have said something similar to you (in the last few days ). And you can understand why he can't come on here and tell us what he knows Pricey why do we look at problems between players? They may not be the only problems. Last season there were many on here talking about the problems behind the scenes, these will always come out when the team struggles. But this season the results have not only covered over the poor performances but what is going on behind the scenes to
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Post by peterjones1 on Jan 4, 2004 13:28:12 GMT 1
Last season there were many on here talking about the problems behind the scenes, these will always come out when the team struggles. But this season the results have not only covered over the poor performances but what is going on behind the scenes to Now that you have got absolutely spot on, I dont believe for one second that things are any better behind the scenes this season than they are last season, in fact I imagine they are a fair bit worse. We already know that Luke dis-likes Jimmy, and Im willing to bet he's not the only one...
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