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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 21:36:39 GMT 1
Played terribly today but got a 2-0 win and now in fourth. We're all going on (myself included) about how poorly we're playing, hoofing it up etc... The problem is, is that there are only a couple of footballing teams in this division. The majority of games played this year will be horrific to watch, don't expect champagne football - it just aint gonna happen
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 21:39:34 GMT 1
Yeovil got lots of plaudits for playing an attractive passing game last season, there's no reason why it can't be done, we don't have to adopt the same tactics
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Post by ackeyshrew on Dec 14, 2003 21:39:45 GMT 1
Agreed, but have to admit Margate looked a lot hungrier for it today than us! That's a completely different issue that Quinn has to sort out........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2003 21:41:04 GMT 1
Yeovil got lots of plaudits for playing an attractive passing game last season, there's no reason why it can't be done, we don't have to adopt the same tactics Very true. However if JQ meets his targets I don't care how they are achieved. We're fourth in the league and we're there on merit - the table doesn't lie.
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Post by skunkie on Dec 14, 2003 21:47:08 GMT 1
It just seems every posative result is a real struggle, Bar Hereford.This word Gel or bonding is a sign of a decent side,i dont know what they should do ,golfing ,paintball ,assault course or getting them to all run up The Stipperstones.But sometime in the future they will have to know each others game,learn and play with a gameplan to progress in football rather than turn up and muddle through results.Fairplay a good win today, but a set gameplan or Lowe and Banim feeling hungry?,when they came on.
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 21:52:53 GMT 1
In my opinion we'll continue to see these up and down results until there is some consistency of team selection and tactics, the essential ingredients for a successful side
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Post by shrewforever on Dec 14, 2003 21:57:48 GMT 1
Very true Prof cant disagree with that(unfortunatley )
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Post by ProfessorPatPending on Dec 14, 2003 22:03:12 GMT 1
I'll have to go and have a lie down having read that
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Dec 14, 2003 22:14:55 GMT 1
Well- on Monday and Tuesday nights, driving home, I listen to two Merseyside Sports programmes. (Radio Shropshire very iffy in the car, anyway) You get the news about Chester- and one presenter remarked that there are a few Conference teams that are better than many teams in Division 3. Also, as I've said before- the Everton fans, in particular- are forever phoning in complaining about hoofing.
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Post by goindownthewylecop on Dec 14, 2003 22:37:00 GMT 1
So it seems we could:
a) Wait for the team to gel, as it supposedly takes so long?
or
b) Carry on our crappy HOOF style which is godawful. maybe get promoted (dubious) but then get absolutely hammered in the 3rd.
No No No. give the team a royal kick up the arse and get 'em playing. Town look positive to me especially with Street and Potter (hope we sign him!) along with Aiston, Tolley, etc - all players that can really PLAY on their day!
C'mon lads I know you can do it this season!!!
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Dec 15, 2003 0:19:05 GMT 1
It just seems every posative result is a real struggle, Bar Hereford.This word Gel or bonding is a sign of a decent side,i dont know what they should do ,golfing ,paintball ,assault course or getting them to all run up The Stipperstones.But sometime in the future they will have to know each others game,learn and play with a gameplan to progress in football rather than turn up and muddle through results.Fairplay a good win today, but a set gameplan or Lowe and Banim feeling hungry?,when they came on. Getting them to travel on the same coach to away trips such as Tamworth,Chester would be a start. Telford all travelled together.
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Post by Hinstockshrew on Dec 15, 2003 0:38:29 GMT 1
Well, why don't they travel together then?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2003 0:54:03 GMT 1
Another one of my unanswerd Ask Jimmy Questions
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 15, 2003 1:43:38 GMT 1
If we go up having played hoof ball doesntmean that we'd play it in div3. Completely different league. So much more space, far bigger crowds, better stadia, better players , better surface and better officials (didnt think i'd hear myself saying that!)
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 15, 2003 10:16:47 GMT 1
This is a poor league - the vast majority of teams in it are way below division 3. The only difference we require is cutting out conceding late goals. If the defence gets sorted then - on average - we should get somewhere.
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Post by Ade Plimmer on Dec 15, 2003 11:55:03 GMT 1
I think the thing is that we just don't look capable of beating sides at the moment. That's what concerns me. We ,ight be getting lucky wins now, but when it comes to the crunch, are we good enough, and the answer is a comprehensive no!!!
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Post by skipwithrob on Dec 15, 2003 12:25:41 GMT 1
Having said that we havent been playing well all season. Does that mean we have been lucky to win most of our games. We played poorely against Tamworth, telford and Exeter but could have on another day got an extra 5 points out of those games.
My point is yes we have had lots of luck, but likewise luck has been against us on ocassions. It cancels out.
the fact is that whereas when we played poorly last season and were soundly beaton, we can get away with playing badly this season and still challenging for promotion. At the end of the day, this alone speaks volumes for the standard of the much vaunted conference.
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Post by dan d on Dec 15, 2003 12:45:32 GMT 1
Of course we are good enough! We wouldn't be in the top 4 challenging for promotion if we weren't good enough, what are you lads thinking eh? That to win a league you win it by other teams giving it to you on a plate and saying here you go lads please beat us almighty Shrewsbury, I don't think so because nobody does that, standards don't count when the majority of teams all out defend to get a result of some sort of a re$!ut against us. The only team that have played Shrewsbury and gone all out attack to beat us this season as been Hereford and look what happend there! All the other teams have either fouled us down to the ground, defended and counter attacked us with the longball game. Half way through the season 40 pts? 40+40 is 80, which will be more than enough for a play off spot or a close championship win, so lets think before we speak here yar? Spheak to me Englelande ven i am talking tu yoou!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2003 13:00:23 GMT 1
The thing is if we were 10th in the league I have no doubt that people would be shouting for Quinn's head and explaining 'the table doesn't lie, we're in this position on merit'
But when we're fourth and winning games on merit (albeit with poor displays only just better than the opposition) then this isn't the case?!
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Post by petetheloon on Dec 15, 2003 13:49:25 GMT 1
Weak league?
Does anyone remember WHY we are in this weak league?
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 15, 2003 13:56:49 GMT 1
Yeah. Because we were well off the pace in division 3. We're not that much better now, but are an unbeleivable 4th.
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Post by petetheloon on Dec 15, 2003 14:04:00 GMT 1
An unbeleiveable 4th?
We have a good defence and a good attack which has been proven by having the 3rd best goal difference in the league.
So have all the teams in the conference had an inexplicable off day against us? and perhaps they should have beaten us by 5 or 6 goals every week?
Now you come to mention it your right, because lets face it we have fluked it this season. and surely ou luck can't continue?
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