Post by harmerhillshrew on Apr 10, 2005 8:50:45 GMT 1
What is it with moderators on this board, its like big brother gone mad, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE etc...why would you want to check IP for a post denouncing terrorism, control freaks anyone?
As for posting as a guest, i have that right, its a free country, there are many on here that do the same, and i have my reasons and make no apologies for that, no doubt the moderators of this board have fired off the usual PM's to EXPOSE me, abuse of power maybe?.
Just to let you know that no one has fired me a PM to let me know who you are.
TBH I could not give a damn who you are.
You have made your point and you do not wish to be known.
You raise an interesting point and one that deserves debate.
I regard most of what is on this MB as a bit of a laugh.
Now and again things on some threads get serious.
I have been on the wrong end of quite a few pranks on here but dont take it personal. Currently Pilch seems to have it in for me which does not bother me. I have a load of photos for him from my younger days for his Advent calender at Christmas which no doubt he will post with glee and hopefully we all have a laugh.
Certain people I like to wind up, HMA (Rob) been the best. He can take a joke from me without a and he gives it back.
On balance I think you would get more respect if you posted under your registered name but as you say it is a free country and you are free to post as a guest.
Post by robspaceman1 on Apr 10, 2005 9:44:17 GMT 1
i've got no idea who this 'is it necessary' is, neither do i care.
however i do care about the 'we are watching you' issues he/she raises in relation to this board, but more importantly to his/her extremely valid point regarding this symbol of terrorism, and i am shocked at some of the behaviour from mods/owners or this board with regards to slagging him/her off etc. in a sense we are all 'guests' on this board - we all have (with the exception of 1 or 2 ppl) log-in names that are not our real names, and until we all posted our name address phone number etc then that degree of anonimity (sp?) remains - which is one of the things that makes using the internet and boards like this so fun - it's a minor escape from the real world.
you can argue that this particular flag is 'official' or whatever as long as you want. the point is that it has been hijacked by extremist groups and now represents a form of terrorism which is offensive to a number of people on this board and in the wider world. it is exactly the same as, unfortunately, happened to the swastica under the nazis: from being an innocent symbol found in austrian churches it became infamous globally as the symbol of disgusting nazism. i'm sure mods would be quick to remove an avatar of a swastica (and quite rightly so). the only difference in this case is that, quite reasonably, it was a not well known that this flag could cause offence. now that a little 'education' has taken place, it is only right and proper that we all agree that such symbols are unacceptable and move on.
With regards to my comment " I know who you are" . This was not an act of Big Brother is watching you, but purely to tell the guest to PM me and I would explain further why I had modified his post.
The person involved, I have got on well with in the past and I certainly don't want him to get the wrong idea of my comment. I didn't agree with the accusation and comparison he used so modified. I also made it clear the reason why and thus telling the guest to contact me.
Get off this Big Brother cr@p and understand that we cannot have dispicable name calling and it won't be tollerated. Im sure most people on this bopard will agree
Post by Is there any need on Apr 10, 2005 10:00:21 GMT 1
How many groups that have hijacked the union jack (are there any?) have blown people up with pipe bombs and car bombs and kneecapped people and shot people in cold blood and extorted money and held the population of a whole country under the threat and fear of violence for years?
Post by Is there any need on Apr 10, 2005 10:06:25 GMT 1
Lets get this right Bilbo, i wrote that the the use of a symbolic flag like the one used on windsorshrews avator was no better than supporting osama bin laden in my book!
No name calling, no offensive remark, just the truth, all terrorists or supporters of terrorist groups are as bad as osama bin laden and alqueda, afterall they are all doing the same thing to get there way, that is, killing and maiming and threatening and intimidating.
I must admit i was very surprised that it was deleted by your goodself, but thats your choice your a moderator.
Post by Is there any need on Apr 10, 2005 10:14:53 GMT 1
Windsorshrew doesnt know me and wouldnt even if he knew my reg name, it makes little diffrence, like i said i have my reasons why i am posting as a guest.
I apologised to windsorshrew in a post on page one and asked for the thread to be deleted if my presumption was wrong, the moderators of this board chose NOT to delete it and instead attack me systematically for my views and for posting as a guest.
If windsorshrew has any gripes it should be with the moderators of this board who have allowed the thread to continue unabated even though it was requested that the thread be removed and an apology was made.
The dabte has now moved on and there are some real issues that need to be addressed by the B&A community, otherwise the element of trust that is expected may well evaporate and the only loser will be this community.
Post by Is there any need on Apr 10, 2005 10:19:31 GMT 1
H_M_A, that is the worst comparison i have ever seen , at least those people were makers of there own doom, people who get blown up whilst out shopping etc... dont get that choice, thats why terrorist symbolism should not be tolerated.
Post by Is there any need on Apr 10, 2005 10:34:27 GMT 1
When were you born rob? Do you not remember the IRA mainland campaign that killed hundreds of people going about there daily lives, the constant bomb threats and evacuations from buildings, train stations, shopping centres?.
What about the whole of Northern Ireland, can you really say that terrorism is overblown there? People live in daily fear of terrorists.
Is the Alqueda threat not really a threat? Should we lower our guard a little to test your theory?
Terrorism is threat to every one of us, every time we step out of our doors we increase the chances of being a target of terrorism, does it not worry you when you are on a train that it may get blown up, or when you travel to londen that a car car bomb may go off, or that a suicide bomber standing next to you may blow himself up?
You may think it wont happen to you, but it happens to somebody everyday, i worry about my children constantly when they are not with me, it is not a worry that prevents me from going about my daily life, but it is a worry that is always at the back of my mind.
Travel abroad is one area where it worries me enough not to travel outside of europe and definately not not by plane.
I must make one thing clear. I am not on this board 24/7 and nor is any other Moderator. I have not read any posts on this subject since my last post yesterday, so any request for thread deletion was missed. However, now I have read the thread fully I will happily delete it.
I will say, I did not intend this to become some sort of Big Brother sensation and probally with hindsight I should have worded my comments better for which I apologise. I had a decision to make and made it ( Rightly or Wrongly).
As another guest said, maybe if the original post was made under his/her real name and sent as a pm in the first place to Windsorshrew none of this would have occured. for those who don't know, Guests cannot send PM's.