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Post by rob on May 18, 2005 0:11:51 GMT 1
maybe he tells us what he thinks we want to hear, both for his, the players and our beneift?
I mean it wouldnt go down well if he said Sam Aiston is rubbish.
Darren Tinso was a cock.
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Post by MartinB on May 18, 2005 6:04:39 GMT 1
end of the day, you believe what you want to believe, i have only stated my opinion, yet i always have to seem to justify it to everyone, i dont trust him because of the things i have heard conflict with what he has said, and id rather believe everyone else who has told me stuff than him, mainly because i have known them for a long time Wasn't asking you to justify yourself and sorry if this thread seemed to be an attack on you. I was really interested in the qualities you wanted from a manager. The qualities I am looking for is someone who is trying to get the best out of the players, someone who encourages people, someone who doesn't like egos get in the way of judgements. From the evidence I have seen we get all this with GP. There will always be things which happen which you don't agree 100% with but that's life. Sometimes managers have to make hard decisions and say things they dson't always agree with themselves in order to get the best out of people.
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Post by x emz x on May 18, 2005 12:51:33 GMT 1
haha pilch your not having it and cherry orchard shrew-it doesnt boil down to just one thing im afraid
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 18, 2005 12:56:16 GMT 1
its the second thread, because why? people want me 2 justify my opinion and as i said to pilch, its private, and i dont have to share everything on b+a Well sorry then Em Im inclined to belive your talking bollox Just more rumors that have no substance no doubt!!! Or just spill the beans Or is it that you know nothing and just like arguing with people
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Post by x emz x on May 18, 2005 12:59:06 GMT 1
LOL me love argueing? no thats up to u, i dont mind if u believe me or not,i base my opinion of him on what i know, and im sure-if you knew anything similar-your opinion would probably change....each to their own.. do you disregard it because i said it wasnt a stewards rumour? is that it? because stewards are a walking book of knowledge
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Post by Pilch on May 18, 2005 13:32:57 GMT 1
give us a clue or we will have to guess heres a few conspiracies i've made up howie did made contact with his handbag peters wasn't scouting when he missed a game hes signed a contract with chester joe hart is his step son he's planning to elope with the clubshop lady
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 18, 2005 13:37:30 GMT 1
LOL me love argueing? no thats up to u, i dont mind if u believe me or not,i base my opinion of him on what i know, and im sure-if you knew anything similar-your opinion would probably change....each to their own.. do you disregard it because i said it wasnt a stewards rumour? is that it? because stewards are a walking book of knowledge has you said it was a steward i would have know you were talking rubbish We all know you have most likely got this through your mum whos herd it from somewhere which means its proabley 2nd or 3rd hand news/rumor and thus thats why i dont think you proabley have all the "facts"
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Post by x emz x on May 18, 2005 13:47:39 GMT 1
i havent heard anything off my mum!! dont bring her into this!! can you not just accept that i have a different opinion of him than you??? pilch-planning to elope with a clubshop lady? dont let my dad hear you say that he will think xmas has come early hehe
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Post by Bilbo on May 18, 2005 13:57:46 GMT 1
coz i get told these things....... a non steward rumour 2 so i do understand you have to quetion the reliability of it, as its not from a steward What you have heard Ema is still only word of mouth from someone else and not necessarily fact, so you shouldn't jump to conclusions until the truth is proven
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2005 13:58:52 GMT 1
Ema, I hope you have learned your lesson. Don't have an opinion which goes against the majority
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Post by Pricey on May 18, 2005 14:00:38 GMT 1
i havent heard anything off my mum!! dont bring her into this!! can you not just accept that i have a different opinion of him than you??? pilch-planning to elope with a clubshop lady? dont let my dad hear you say that he will think xmas has come early hehe How can you have a different opinian to me when you have no idea what my opinian is? ? Well apart from saying he did his job this year - FACT - he has a hard job to do next year - FACT!!!!! I cant accept that you can claim to know stuff that could be total b******s, but tell us all its deffo true and want us to belive you! No doubt if something happens you can say i told you so but you could do that to anything!!!! And claim you already knew the the brave person who speak ther mind Just an opinian mind Em - no need for this to get --- err heated
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Post by Pricey on May 18, 2005 14:02:25 GMT 1
Ema, I hope you have learned your lesson. Don't have an opinion which goes against the majority Meaning what As said i have no opinian and certainly not a majority one - i hardley ever do!! But i still think its relevant to point out that this could be rubbish when Ems trying to get people to belive that peters is proabley up to no good!! When its word of mouth stuff!!
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Post by Pilch on May 18, 2005 14:03:18 GMT 1
did you hear it from kate ? if so it must be true
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Post by mattmw on May 18, 2005 14:24:05 GMT 1
I've only seen Peters in person once at the supporters Q & A last week.
He seemed quite honest and didn't try to avoid aswering any questions, and actually said a few things i thought he would want to keep quiet - the approch from Chester and the "handbags" with Howie. From what i've heard from other fans he seems quite approachable.
I just wondered if Mrs Tolley had ever spoken to Peter's directly about the issues she has with him - and if so has she asked Peters if he would mind these issues being aired to the fans via the message board or fanzines?
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Post by pistolrover on May 18, 2005 14:34:13 GMT 1
personally. i agree with mrstolley
(please dont shoot me down in flames)
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Post by faginy on May 18, 2005 14:37:25 GMT 1
how can you agree with her when no-one knows what she's on about?
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Post by Blue 44 on May 18, 2005 14:44:40 GMT 1
Personally I have think GP will do a good job for the club but I could be wrong . I have no problem with mrstolley having a different viewpoint and she may well be right. My only concern is what is implicit in her posts which is along the lines of" I dont trust him and if you knew what I knew you wouldnt trust him either and then being unwilling to say what she knows!" but its a free country and perhaps we should move on ..Lots of the players alreadfy have
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Post by Bec on May 18, 2005 18:40:18 GMT 1
im sorry, but this thread has slowely turned into an attack on ema and has gone completely off the topic- martin asked a question, ema gave her opinion, and she is not the only one who feels this way, and people are near enough calling her a liar dont read so much into her posts, she has her views on him, just coz she personally doesnt feel he's saying things which are 100% truthful(and not through things she hears 'second hand'),doesnt mean hes plotting something dastardly behind the scenes - think its fair just to agree to disagree, it has all been blown out of proportion........for a change
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2005 19:17:22 GMT 1
I don't think anyone's trying to have a go at ema.
The problem is how can you offer an opinion when you can't confirm what you've based your idea on?
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Post by lazyshrew on May 18, 2005 20:35:20 GMT 1
Hitler and Mussolini both told the people what they wanted to beleive. Look what that resulted in.
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Post by Guest on May 18, 2005 21:18:32 GMT 1
Hitler and Mussolini both told the people what they wanted to beleive. Look what that resulted in. This is now getting surreal
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Post by Lenin on May 18, 2005 21:23:10 GMT 1
I don't think anyone's trying to have a go at ema. The problem is how can you offer an opinion when you can't confirm what you've based your idea on? Maybe because it's private and she doesn't what to say? Lenin reckons surely not everything can be made public on a public messageboard.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 18, 2005 21:29:45 GMT 1
Maybe because it's private and she doesn't what to say? Lenin reckons surely not everything can be made public on a public messageboard. ....should you not be in bed asleep now, havn't you got school tomorrow
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Post by Lenin on May 18, 2005 21:33:49 GMT 1
....should you not be in bed asleep now, havn't you got school tomorrow School? Lenin finished school years ago.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2005 22:01:33 GMT 1
Maybe because it's private and she doesn't what to say? Lenin reckons surely not everything can be made public on a public messageboard. So why bring it up in the first place? As I said before, you can't expect someone to understand what you're point of view is if you can not back that opinion up with fact that both people know of.
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Post by Lenin on May 18, 2005 22:03:39 GMT 1
So why bring it up in the first place? As I said before, you can't expect someone to understand what you're point of view is if you can not back that opinion up with fact that both people know of. Fair point.
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Post by Bec on May 18, 2005 23:39:30 GMT 1
but no one has ever queried someones opinion FOR GP so why against?!?!!!
to be honest this thread has gone against everything this board has tried to achieve...this board has gone out of its way to try and show there not a clique or dont 'gang up' on people with a difference of opinion, but if you have a different opinion on this board then you are gone through with a fine tooth comb until they try and make you think your wrong?!! im sorry if this is not the case, but this is this the way it seems?!
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Post by MartinB nOT LOGGED IN on May 19, 2005 6:57:27 GMT 1
but no one has ever queried someones opinion FOR GP so why against?!?!!! to be honest this thread has gone against everything this board has tried to achieve...this board has gone out of its way to try and show there not a clique or dont 'gang up' on people with a difference of opinion, but if you have a different opinion on this board then you are gone through with a fine tooth comb until they try and make you think your wrong?!! im sorry if this is not the case, but this is this the way it seems?! Totally disagree with this post. I haven't read a single post in this thread that says MrsT is wrong. All I have read is people asking for more information on what she has hinted at. If someone has information that they don't want to be made public you shouldn't refer to it, otherwise you can expect to be asked questions. To give you an example, I have a friend of a friend who every so often receives inside information concerning the club which gets passed to me. This source has NEVER been wrong and I know why. Because I get this information in confidence I would NEVER, EVER let anyone else have a clue I know about something that is going to happen. I would also NEVER EVER give anyone a clue who my friend is and who their friend is. The reason for this is I would lose the friend I have and I don't want that. The reason no one has questioned anyone supporting GP is they see the evidence of a rag-bag rabble under JQ, has turned into a group of players playing to a plan and working for each other. They have seen players improving and being motivated so they don't need to question things they have seen with their own eyes.
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Post by jamo on May 19, 2005 7:20:06 GMT 1
but no one has ever queried someones opinion FOR GP so why against?!?!!! to be honest this thread has gone against everything this board has tried to achieve...this board has gone out of its way to try and show there not a clique or dont 'gang up' on people with a difference of opinion, but if you have a different opinion on this board then you are gone through with a fine tooth comb until they try and make you think your wrong?!! im sorry if this is not the case, but this is this the way it seems?! ....and the winner for the total b******s of the day award is .........................Bec.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 19, 2005 7:27:53 GMT 1
how can you agree with her when no-one knows what she's on about? For once the J-Man hits the nail on the head Mrs T is obviously privvy to some info. But as most on this thread have said just post what you know or keep quiet on the subject. Reading between the lines I suspect a player MrsT enjoys watching has been released. How many read this on Shrewsweb. www.shrewsburytown.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10443~665967,00.html Tinno hints there that GP said one thing and then did the opposite. Pro Football is a very tough world and situations change. So far, as far as I am concerned Gary Peters has done everything he said he would.
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