Slug
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Post by Slug on Mar 9, 2004 17:12:47 GMT 1
Does any body else feel that Mr. Wynn shuld be sat down and given a telling off? I feel that in recent weeks his attitude has been disgusting and i've been told that this again showed on sat when he couldn't be arsed to run the line and told tim that he ''didn't care'' when making his way back 2 the changing rooms. Quite frankly i think his attitude has become increasingly awful and Chris W shuld knock his teeth out. So Matt Wynn and get lost.
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 9, 2004 17:20:30 GMT 1
Think it would be better for internal ASFC matters to be sorted out iinternal rather than washing dirty laundry in public. Doesn't really do Matt or ASFC any good does it slug ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2004 17:45:10 GMT 1
Mat Wyne is getting a lot of unfair stick at the moment IMO. OK he owed some money before hand but he paid that bak and he was the first to pay his subs last saturday.
Also he turned up for the game away at Oswestry when some others could or didn't. He made the effort to turn up and fair doos to him for doing it.
Re: Running the line. A number of ASFC players have nebver taken responsibility to running the line when they are taken off as sub.
Mr Slug - in future if you'r going to slag someone off please either say it to their face or at least use a real name instead of hiding under a pseudoname.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 9, 2004 17:53:25 GMT 1
Im quite new too all this Aaway Supporters politices - but from a purley football stand point all this negativness towards wynnie last week and this week effected his football on Sat. Away at Oswestry he played very well and provided a number of crosses and worked hard and kept talking throught out the game. On sat i could not belive the difference in him - body language poor and head down - all cos he got a lot of stick
As i said i dont know whats really gone on but he seems like an easy scape goat - i say put it all behind you and focus on winning some games, and he must want to play as he keeps turing up.... Keep your head up son!!!
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 9, 2004 17:54:16 GMT 1
Slug, I agree that all ASFC members should pull together and do their bit to help out. Unfortunately it has always being the case that some are more willing than others and I suppose this is the case in all walks of life. I have always stressed to squad members that if they have a problem with anyone or anything they come straight to me or player-manager Dave Owen. Hopefully any grievances can then be heard fairly and ironed out. It always makes me laugh that when asking for a volunteer to run the line, most shy away and the usual excuse given is "I don't know the rules" Yet it is these same people who rant and rave at the poor old lino on a Saturday afternoon!! Why, when they haven't got a clue themselves supposedly!! Please feel free to send me a personal message or ring me if you wish to discuss anything further.
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wedge86
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Post by wedge86 on Mar 9, 2004 21:03:42 GMT 1
Poor Matt Wynn. He is a good lad really.
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Post by x emz x on Mar 9, 2004 21:10:48 GMT 1
leave the poor lad alone.
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Post by gaffer on Mar 10, 2004 4:41:21 GMT 1
I can see things from both sets of parties. From Chris W point of view, its the fact that Matt hasnt really done much for ASFC but turn up. You find that most if not everyone does their bit for the club. We dont ask for them to give up their limbs for us but it doesnt take much to help. Even if it something as simple as having a couple of goes on the footy card. That all it takes. And that is where Matt hasnt really shone in.
As for Matt's attitude towards ASFC. It really is quite frustrating because he really is a nice lad but its a shame he doesnt really feel as committed to ASFC more than others. Which is entirely his decision. If he wants to stay in the background then leave him to it. He's not harming others by doing this. If he wants to contribute more towards ASFC then it works out best for himself and us.
But from his point of veiw, i suppose he feels that he's getting too much pressure from others. Maybe he feels he's being ganged up on. From where im standing that isnt the case, unless he says different. But if your involved in a group or team like ASFC then you have to expect to be pressured or asked into things. But its up to the individual to make a decision if he's prepared to committ and help out. In my opinion, thats where Matt, once again doesnt shine in.
But at the end of the day you've got to make a decision. If you want to carry on playing football with ASFC and to be given the chance to play on the Meadow at the end of the season, play in tournements or even to be invited in the sponsors lounge once or twice a season. Then you will HAVE to contribute alot more than what your doing at the current time. OR Carry one what your doing and falling out with other members and taking a back seat to everything ive just said. At the end of the day its his decision.
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Post by Edgey on Mar 10, 2004 13:54:23 GMT 1
ha ha!
I can't believe the response, i am slug and only posted the message 2 wind matt wynne up coz its so easy and were mates.
Will every just chill out and leave him alone.
edgey
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Post by Dale on Mar 10, 2004 15:01:27 GMT 1
People take insults very seriously on here Edgey
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Post by skipwithrob on Mar 10, 2004 15:52:30 GMT 1
Whats he done? Burnt the club house down??? No one likes running the line especially if they feel that they are being vicamised. Shouldnt it be discussed behind closed doors? Nothing like airing dirty linnin in public.... It'll do wonders for the lads confidence and whatever the situation that has arrision
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 10, 2004 16:13:11 GMT 1
Skippy,
If you read through the threads carefully, I think you will find everyone who has posted on here has indeed stuck up for Matt.
The only exception being the original post, which Edgy has since come on here and admitted responsibility too, having done it as a joke (ok, it's not particularly funny & I think the lad realises that now and in hindsight wouldn't have done it) but end of, no damage done. Now let's lay to rest.
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Post by skipwithrob on Mar 10, 2004 16:15:06 GMT 1
sorry father
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 10, 2004 16:31:16 GMT 1
Skippy, you are not my son - if you were I can't repeat what I would have done with the umbilical cord at your birth (only to say it involves necks and tightening!!) ;D
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2004 16:40:52 GMT 1
just out of interest do marsupials have an umbilical cord ?
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Post by skipwithrob on Mar 10, 2004 17:04:23 GMT 1
Thats alright then, I didnt think I'd got my dashing good lucks from you ;D
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 10, 2004 17:14:47 GMT 1
Or your looks either
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Post by Matt wynn on Mar 10, 2004 21:21:19 GMT 1
I am the first to admit that yes i hardly ever have a go on the football card and dont go to as many away games as last season because of work, and yes I do take a bit of a "back seat" as Dave said. I enjoy playing for the away supporters but lst sat I did nt enjoy anything about the game not least the stick I got coz I would nt run the line after coming off. At the end of the day it was a friendly no one was playing for the world cup even if a couple of people thought it was 1966 all over again!!. In the end its all been taken out of proportion and I think its sorted now with any luck! I will try to take less of a "back seat" in the future.
CHEERS!! ;D
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Post by Pilch on Mar 10, 2004 21:56:58 GMT 1
there is no such thing as a friendly there were a lot of arguments due to not having a lino the game v copthorne was also supposed to be a friendly, but some of the tackling suggested otherwise ps edgy & carl have just been offered a pizza advert
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Post by timgallon on Mar 11, 2004 0:52:49 GMT 1
i've mentioned the issue of a lack of linesman before but nothing has been done, i will be speaking to Wynnie and Dave about this.
linesmen are essential if your a defender and playing the offside rule. you cant expect a top flight referree to make offside decsions let alone last weeks ref who is 69.
last week the winning goal was hotly contested with the defence claiming an offisde decision, had we had a linesman we would accepted it. yes it wasnt the world cup final but when i play i play to win and it annoyed me that Matt Wyn, despite several requests to run the line before the "offside" goal went in, preffered to sit down sunning himself whilst im trying to do the best for the team.
However, this issue goes right through the team, there are other players who also seem to dodge resposnibility running the line, thats why some instructions need to come down from the top to ensure that we provide linesmen. otherwise games will continue to be soured and to be honest its very demoralising when your putting the effort it only to see your efforts wasted by the lack of a linesman cos your own team members cant be arsed.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 11, 2004 0:59:46 GMT 1
I was pretty happy with that "hotely debated off side" Gal
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2004 1:29:26 GMT 1
It was never offside
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Post by timgallon on Mar 11, 2004 1:36:40 GMT 1
umm i'd like to question your judgement young thomas as a couple of minutes after the goal your called an offisde against your own team which wasnt offside and which i didnt claim, carter can back me up on this.
anyway the point isnit whether it was offside or not, rather the fact that there was no linesman to make the decsion. a linesman may well of called it onside and whilst i might not have agreed it would have been end of story and accepted.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 11, 2004 1:41:27 GMT 1
it did make up for the blatant handball for the 1st goal
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2004 1:42:12 GMT 1
As yes but if that's the case at least I was trying to be fair - no? It's swings & roundabouts anyway I think - near the end of the game I ran through clear on goal and was well onside (Glyn was offside but I was the one clearly going for the ball) but you lot claimed offside and it was given.
But yes your point about making sure everyone runs the line when required is perfectly valid, and something does need to be sorted out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2004 9:22:54 GMT 1
I think ASFC should invest in a new stopwatch so we don't play 60 minute second halves
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Post by Carter on Mar 11, 2004 14:16:20 GMT 1
Re Saturday - i was a bit harsh and shouted in the heat of the moment but that's just showing a bit of passion when I was very disappointed at the goal, which when your running your heart out it is obviously annoying when something like that happens and you feel let down by the lack of a lino...... - BUT lets learn from it, move on, shake hands, show no hard feelings and get that team spirit back that has served us so well this year, in one of the most succesful years i can remember in ASFC history!! Onwards and Upwards ASFC!!!! It Raymondo's 70th birthday this June - perhaps a whip round to buy him a stopwatch might be good!!! PS thinking of having a surprise do for him at some point so watch this space lads.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2004 14:17:41 GMT 1
PS thinking of having a surprise do for him at some point so watch this space lads. I thought he read this board Chris?
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Post by True_Shrew on Mar 11, 2004 14:40:50 GMT 1
How dare you Mr. Pilch The definition of blatant is "without any attempt at concealment; completely obvious" I think you will find I did an excellent job of concealing the 'blatant' handball ;D It was Phil's fault anyway
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Mar 11, 2004 14:46:32 GMT 1
It Raymondo's 70th birthday this June - perhaps a whip might be good!!! Christopher!
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