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Post by MartinB on Feb 29, 2004 11:15:17 GMT 1
I'm so please that Telford's manager and players admitted that "There is only one football team in Shropshire" and it's Shrewsbury Town.
They didn't believe they were good enough to win by playing football. After the game Mick Moans said he thought Telford were excellent in the first half.
If that's excellent football I'm the pope. I would hate to see a game in which Telford play poorly, if yesterday was the excellent standard.
I loved the Mick Moans comment comparing Telford to Dagenham. That's clearly the level they are aiming for.
The thing is when Telford decided the game was football not time wasting they have players who could play.
It would be interesting to see them play a whole game of football, but Shrewsbury fans will never see that because of Telford's inferiotity complex.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 29, 2004 11:32:28 GMT 1
'I would hate to see a game in which Telford play poorly'...
I rather hope you witness such an event come the 16th March out kid!!
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Post by SeanBroseley on Feb 29, 2004 14:42:13 GMT 1
I thought this was going to be a post about Telford's inferiority complex about Shrewsbury. Telford United's inferiority complex about Shrewsbury Town is just one symptom of the wider problem the club and its fans - certainly those that attended yesterday - have.
I will say this for Telford United - absolutely from scratch - Mick Jones has built a cohesive team that will fight for each rather than with each other. We will only beat them in the two games at the NBH if we mtach that togetherness.
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Post by skunkie on Feb 29, 2004 14:50:10 GMT 1
I dont think we have given Telford enough respect, it is indeed true they fight and work for each other,and in the three games this season you can see a real improvement in their game, they are first to the ball, win the majority of 50-50- headers and if they came to the meadow yesterday defensivley ,i dont beleive it,
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Post by Stevenelsonfanclub on Feb 29, 2004 14:56:55 GMT 1
I think you hit the nail on the head there about Mick Jones, Sean.
I wasn't sure about him at all, but the more I see of what he has done this season the higher I rate him.
He had to get some players in at too short notice over the summer (Blackwood, Williams, Rowe etc), but when given time to assess players and formulate a strategy, he seems to be a decent judge of player (Hulbert, Naylor, Stanley), the possible exception being C.Moore, who works hard but I don;lt think thats ebough!
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Post by peterjones1 on Feb 29, 2004 15:21:46 GMT 1
Telford didn't need to use the delaying tactics they did. They have a few quality players and they could have pushed on and killed us off first half, but they left it too late to start asserting pressure again.
And Chris Murphy was wasted in central midfield (I think that's where he seemed to be playing!) he is far too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball, and some of his attempts to win the ball back were almost embarassing. He is a striker, a winger or a bench warmer, nothing more.
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Post by ginboomerang on Feb 29, 2004 17:35:57 GMT 1
I couldn't see an inferiority complex yesterday, consequently we have to go to NBH.
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 18:23:51 GMT 1
What amazes me is how arrogant your supporters - some of, not all - seem to me. If you can't see we played well first half then you must be blind. We dominated first half, and the last ten minutes. You had 35 minsutes of the second half - in which you could have won. Lets not forget that we could have won too though As for delaying tactics from Macca - our keeper. He hasn't done so all season, so why start now? Clarkey is an excellent wind up merchant - and so is Simpson. You had Cramb and OConnor on your wind up missions, an even game I thought. Why not accept that maybe your little neighbours from down the road are maybe - just maybe - as good as you. Though you are a huge club, so I don't know if you can come to terms with that. We've come to your place and played twice, drawing both times. Both games we could have won - especially yesterday. Just accept we deserved a draw yesterday. Also how can some claim we were negative? So Naylor's freekick - negative? Grant in last 5 mins - negative? It annoys me when people can't accept that both teams were even - and rivalries aside its good to see such a competitive edge between the county's top two clubs
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Post by NorthantsBuck on Feb 29, 2004 18:26:50 GMT 1
What amazes me is how arrogant your supporters - some of, not all - seem to me. If you can't see we played well first half then you must be blind. We dominated first half, and the last ten minutes. You had 35 minsutes of the second half - in which you could have won. Lets not forget that we could have won too though As for delaying tactics from Macca - our keeper. He hasn't done so all season, so why start now? Clarkey is an excellent wind up merchant - and so is Simpson. You had Cramb and OConnor on your wind up missions, an even game I thought. Why not accept that maybe your little neighbours from down the road are maybe - just maybe - as good as you. Though you are a huge club, so I don't know if you can come to terms with that. We've come to your place and played twice, drawing both times. Both games we could have won - especially yesterday. Just accept we deserved a draw yesterday. Also how can some claim we were negative? So Naylor's freekick - negative? Grant in last 5 mins - negative? It annoys me when people can't accept that both teams were even - and rivalries aside its good to see such a competitive edge between the county's top two clubs well said that man shrews fans
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 29, 2004 18:30:50 GMT 1
I and a lot of the town fans will think your are taking balls and you think most of us are talking balls
Wanna solution p**s of back your "little club" - little message board and call us all arrogant there
Fair game - fair result -but the difference between the two clubs is unbeilvable - wise up
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Post by northantsbuck on Feb 29, 2004 18:39:41 GMT 1
is it ****. same league, same level, and the games so far have shown we're inseperable (2 draws). Stop talkin out your arse.
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Post by Tony_HullShrew on Feb 29, 2004 18:41:16 GMT 1
Hey, G Pricey - I've just posted a thread saying I want more banter between clubs on the board and you've just tolds the Telford crowd to P**s off to their own site. We need consistency and perhaps some free speach on the board I accept your wish for them to head back to the Bucks board - but on my part welcome them to give their views. As I was over in Hull during the match, I gain a lot from hearing all sides of how the match went. So all you Telford fans who have just Pi*sed off to your own board COME BACK!!!!!
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 18:42:35 GMT 1
The difference between the two clubs is unbelieveable? Yeah - like goals? Oh damn - no difference. So cmon tell me - what are the differences? Aside from your bias due to local rivalry... Don't come up with some tosh about attendances - it won't wash with me. You are a non league club - get used to it. Apologies to all decent shrews fans who have congratulated me and other telfordians on our performance yesterday. These obviously biased idiots have seen a different game through rose tinted - and blue and amber tinted spectacles. So to all biased idiots on both sides, I say this...
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 29, 2004 18:45:06 GMT 1
errr when was the last time you beat us? Diff is you are happy with draws and we are not - expectations is different for a start - and yes i like banter but these fans dont come wanting to talk about the game - its always some crap about how arrogent we are - i have never been on Buckschat saying your all a bunch of poor scabby buggers so why come on here with insults you wannt debate a game your welcome if not yes you can P*** off
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 18:50:27 GMT 1
When was the last time you beat us in a competitivew match? (Cue PILCH ) I was happy with a draw - we were away from home against a very good - oh my god - rivalry went for a min there - Shrewsbury side, flying high after a 4-1 thrashing of Scarborough. I was pleased, yes. As for insults - if you can't see your biased view of the match then you may as well give up hope now. Arrogant isn't an insult - but telling me to p*** off is. I truly can't wait to turn you over on the 16th March - Now do run along - and in future, if you're going to insult me then you can
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 18:51:35 GMT 1
In the 0-0 game we battled against a 10 man defence. Yesterday they had the first half partly because of poor tactics..4-3-3 my arse..but without question they did and we had the majority of the second half. Mick Jones be it a good or bad manager is a bloody good media talker and if he leaves Telford he must keep a saturday spot on Radio Telford as he cracks me up Im all for banter...get it on.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 29, 2004 19:02:38 GMT 1
Belive what you like - Astion is coming to the bucks head and this time its personal I would rather thrash you at the bucks head anyway And as for differences 1) History 2) Fan base 3) Leage and cup sucess 4) 10,000 all seater stadim (which will get built no mater your pesimistic attitude) 5) higher wage bill to spend this and next year 6) More playing staff on books 7) Finacial safety (not reliant of a bid sugar dady bank roling us then pulling out and putting the future of the club in the balance) 8) a realistic chance of getting out of this division a the first attempt (margate all but ended your playoff dreams) 9) A cracking record at the bucks head so nothing to fear from a trip there 10) Away fans team and good away support that is respected across the country Any more?
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 19:02:51 GMT 1
Banter is good yeah - but narrow mindedness is petty, infuriating and quite frankl;y immature. I'm as loyal as Telford fans come, and I can find it in me to give your players the respect they deserve - all I ask is from some your numpties to do the same. Oh and JP - my dad's better than yours
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 19:04:57 GMT 1
This is a thread stopper if ever there was one. " "Oh and JP - my dad's better than yours" My father's been dead for 6 years..howabout yours?...beat that then!
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 19:10:37 GMT 1
1) History - You're livin' in the past. Quit livin' in the past! 2) Fan base - goes with history. Kettering had a bigger fanbase than Rushden one time - now look. Success breeds crowds - and we haven't had success - yet. 3) Leage and cup sucess - League success. Erm run that by me again - finishing near the bottom of the table for what seemed a perrenial occurence - aside from the playoff spot you oh so nearly got Cup success. You beat Everton at home - we beat crewe away. Same league difference; but we were away. 4) 10,000 all seater stadim (which will get built no mater your pesimistic attitude) - so you've been saying since I was born 5) higher wage bill to spend this and next year - prove it. 6) More playing staff on books - right so thats such an advantage wasting money on Dunbavin, Glen Tolley etc...? 7) Finacial safety (not reliant of a bid sugar dady bank roling us then pulling out and putting the future of the club in the balance) - Shaw's been here for SEVEN years. Thats right - SEVEN. Actions speak louder than words, my friend. 8) a realistic chance of getting out of this division a the first attempt (margate all but ended your playoff dreams) - You can kiss goodbye to automatic, and I'd fancy Aldershot or Hereford for playoff winners ahead of you. Aldershot, the best side I've seen this season - Millwall included. 9) A cracking record at the bucks head so nothing to fear from a trip there - cracking record in mickey mouse cups when you're a league higher 10) Away fans team and good away support that is respected across the country - comes with history, matey [/quote]
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Feb 29, 2004 19:11:03 GMT 1
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 19:12:17 GMT 1
[quote author=JP_Shrew "Oh and JP - my dad's better than yours" My father's been dead for 6 years..howabout yours?...beat that then! [/quote] Sorry mate Had a funny feeling as soon as I posted that that this may have been the case. My bad
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 19:13:01 GMT 1
1) History - You're livin' in the past. Quit livin' in the past! 2) Fan base - goes with history. Kettering had a bigger fanbase than Rushden one time - now look. Success breeds crowds - and we haven't had success - yet. 3) Leage and cup sucess - League success. Erm run that by me again - finishing near the bottom of the table for what seemed a perrenial occurence - aside from the playoff spot you oh so nearly got Cup success. You beat Everton at home - we beat crewe away. Same league difference; but we were away. 4) 10,000 all seater stadim (which will get built no mater your pesimistic attitude) - so you've been saying since I was born 5) higher wage bill to spend this and next year - prove it. 6) More playing staff on books - right so thats such an advantage wasting money on Dunbavin, Glen Tolley etc...? 7) Finacial safety (not reliant of a bid sugar dady bank roling us then pulling out and putting the future of the club in the balance) - Shaw's been here for SEVEN years. Thats right - SEVEN. Actions speak louder than words, my friend. 8) a realistic chance of getting out of this division a the first attempt (margate all but ended your playoff dreams) - You can kiss goodbye to automatic, and I'd fancy Aldershot or Hereford for playoff winners ahead of you. Aldershot, the best side I've seen this season - Millwall included. 9) A cracking record at the bucks head so nothing to fear from a trip there - cracking record in mickey mouse cups when you're a league higher 10) Away fans team and good away support that is respected across the country - comes with history, matey [/quote] Take a breathe owd lad
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Post by MartinB on Feb 29, 2004 19:13:04 GMT 1
All you Telford fans are missing the point of my post. You had the skills and ability to win yestersday's game.
An inferiotity complex is when someone believes the opposition is better than them when perhaps they are not.
What you should have done was carried on playing and trying to score goals instead of wasting time. Instead you didn't believe in your own abilities and decided to waste time.
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 19:14:12 GMT 1
Sorry mate Had a funny feeling as soon as I posted that that this may have been the case. My bad Dont worry mate, my dad would be laughing if he could see that anyway ;D
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 19:15:11 GMT 1
Please dont say my mum either Just in case
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 19:17:02 GMT 1
You were at home, in front of 4600 home fans. All shouting for the team to improve, and that they did. When 1-0 up its only natural for a team to become complacent in a cup tie. It happens almost every time. We should have been up by more than one goal at the interval, but weren't. Just as you should have scored more than once - but didn't. If butrs and maybes
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Post by bowyaTUFC on Feb 29, 2004 19:18:01 GMT 1
Please dont say my mum either Just in case Am being careful now
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Feb 29, 2004 19:18:49 GMT 1
No Martin they were happy with a draw - like there fans are - they dont know the meaning of the word to win (i dont mean games ) but to do what every one expects of you - Bottlers!!!
And all of my points are invlaid are they!!!!
hahaha - you idiot - All the things you say make no difference - you have not been above us this season and will not be !!!!! - so how can you look down on us -
Heres my last main differnce - if you say all your players are the better of us or equal
Shrewsbury Town - Pts 54 pos - 5 Telford Unt - Pts 38 pos - 14
End of son - End of
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Feb 29, 2004 19:18:58 GMT 1
Well observed ;D
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