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Post by Cynical and stupid on Mar 15, 2004 18:12:56 GMT 1
Steve Bull pictured with Councillor Sharron Edwards. www.freedompartyuk.net/public/partynews/Wimbles.jpgSharron Edwards is former deputy leader of the BNP (she featured prominently in a 1999 BBC documentary on the party) and is now a councillor for the splinter Freedom Party in Wombourne. akll that shows is that Steve Bull thinks you should pick up litter if that is the best you can do then
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 15, 2004 18:13:43 GMT 1
I agree staly - but we have all had a good kick and he keeps coming back - kind takes the fun away I cant figure this guy out he has been around here a while posting ultra negative stuff about the town but then today - he diesides to go mad on this bnp stuff, very strange Its just young kids get back from school soon and even not every one will see this mugs propagander for what it is!!!!!! mabey a moderator could disable his links to the websites and propergander pages
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Post by harkaboy3 on Mar 15, 2004 18:14:55 GMT 1
Im all for deleting this tread now boys it does not belong here!!!!! Im with Pab can a moderator intervene leave it run,anyone unsure of the bnp can read this and then realise how manipulative they can be(just like the other parties)
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 15, 2004 18:15:16 GMT 1
Holocaust denial is denial of the holocaust, duh. A discredited and frankly foul strand of revisionism briefly popular a few years ago. Fascinating. So there is one official version of history that no-one is allowed to question ever regardless of what new facts may surface (actually that's what happens in several European countries anyway).
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 15, 2004 18:17:54 GMT 1
FACTS - what are these - someting your lot have made up i would think - your on thin ice here son You are now defending the natzis - unbeliable please get of this board
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Post by Staly on Mar 15, 2004 18:19:11 GMT 1
"Fascinating. So there is one official version of history that no-one is allowed to question ever regardless of what new facts may surface (actually that's what happens in several European countries anyway)."
At the risk of annoying Gpricey...
No, there is a strand of history which is more or less right, and there is a strand which ignores and manipulates available evidence for narrow and unpleasant political ends. People are allowed to question the former- if they want to look stupid. I was arguing against censorship above, if you care to look.
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 15, 2004 18:21:07 GMT 1
I agree staly - but we have all had a good kick and he keeps coming back - kind takes the fun away I cant figure this guy out he has been around here a while posting ultra negative stuff about the town but then today - he diesides to go mad on this bnp stuff, very strange Its just young kids get back from school soon and even not every one will see this mugs propagander for what it is!!!!!! mabey a moderator could disable his links to the websites and propergander pages Oh no! Think of the children. They've just spent all day at school learning the joys of multiculturalism and indoctrination into the evil of the white man (the holocaust, colonialism, slavery, apartheid, usa civil rights etc. etc.). Who knows what will happen if they read a well reasoned counter-argument. We must protect them! Actually, I'd be quite impressed by the intellectual ability of a young child patient and bright enough to read his way through American Rennaisance or Vdare (or the Freedom Party website for that matter).
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 15, 2004 18:23:34 GMT 1
" At the risk of annoying Gpricey... No, there is a strand of history which is more or less right, and there is a strand which ignores and manipulates available evidence for narrow and unpleasant political ends. . Having suffered thirteen years of PeeCee education culminating in A-level history I couldn't agree more.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 15, 2004 18:24:55 GMT 1
Dont worry staly - you aint annoyed me, its just that even if the facts are not 100% one thing reamins true the natizs were and are evil. And noe of my posts have been aimed at you apart from the one where i named you - soz for the confusion I dont want to post this cos i know that where it loads up there will be another load of rubbish from CynicalShrew
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2004 18:25:13 GMT 1
Yep, leave it here.
Surely the views of a Leader on one of the most important events in world history, especially when it is related to the agenda his party stands on, are important.
What about the fact that Nick Griffin was given a 2 year suspended jail sentence for inciting racial hatred?
What about the anti-semitic pamphlets he used to produce before he had his media-friendly makeover?
How do you define British CynicalShrew?
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Mar 15, 2004 18:25:42 GMT 1
FACTS - what are these - someting your lot have made up i would think - your on thin ice here son You are now defending the natzis - unbeliable please get of this board I've said nothing about the Natzis (sic). I was just wondering what 'holocaust denial' was, no-one has ever explained it to my satisfaction. FWIW, I find the whole topic of Nazi Germany and the 'holocaust' deeply boring.
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Post by ianwhit on Mar 15, 2004 18:26:07 GMT 1
leave the thred so people who don't know about the bnp can read it.
the reason the bnp get in is becuase of apathy.
people can't be bothered to vote and don't, the bnp get a bit of support and then con a few more people in and they get elected.
the thing it shows is if you've recently got a vote use it.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Mar 15, 2004 18:30:44 GMT 1
Fine i give up - if you all think its ok then so be it
I dont think that this subject should be swept under the carpet - in fact i would like to more of this subject disscussed in the main media, but remember this is a football message board about Shrewsbury town Football club, a club dedecated to kicking rasism out of football -
God forbid that Leon Drysdale or Martin Occonner read this today - they wonder what the hell is going on
Any one who signed up to the fans charter, and is happy to leave this here is a hypocryit.
Sorry if i have p**sed any one off but this is so off topic is nots funny!!
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Post by Staly on Mar 15, 2004 18:34:31 GMT 1
OK, last time I rise to it.
Holocaust denial is the claim that the nazis did not deliberately kill millions of Jews with poison gas and then destroy the bodies. The claim is that millions of Jews died from typhus and other diseases in the camps and the gas ovens were to dispose of their bodies. There is also a claim that Hitler did not know of or authorise the deliberate genocide, which was carried out by over zealous SS officers on their own authority. This revisionism is helped by the fact that the SS destroyed, understandably, most documentation related to the camps and the paramilitary death squads when allied victory was inevitable.
Now, if you read that and think its plausible, fine. Myself, I don't think its worth arguing about any more. So goodbye to this thread.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 15, 2004 18:35:10 GMT 1
do you have a name cynical shrew ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2004 18:35:46 GMT 1
Fine i give up - if you all think its ok then so be it I dont think that this subject should be swept under the carpet - in fact i would like to more of this subject disscussed in the main media, but remember this is a football message board about Shrewsbury town Football club, a club dedecated to kicking rasism out of football - God forbid that Leon Drysdale or Martin Occonner read this today - they wonder what the hell is going on Any one who signed up to the fans charter, and is happy to leave this here is a hypocryit. Sorry if i have p**sed any one off but this is so off topic is nots funny!! Absolutely. And it has shown that one nutter with ridiculous views is firmly in the minority.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 16, 2004 1:25:02 GMT 1
n/t
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