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Post by skinner on Dec 7, 2004 22:28:51 GMT 1
I'm sorry to say it folks but someones got to say it but Luke Rogers just aint good enough.2 goals in 19 games tells me that luke rogers has been well and truly found out.He looked the least likely to score tonight than any player on the pitch.He looked totally uninterested and when he did have the ball at his feet he looked clueless.There was no outlet from him and when he did get the ball he just ran blindly into trouble when there was teammates screaming at him for the ball.I'm afraid he is only playing for himself and not for the team.Time for a spell in the reserves for Luke Rogers.
Now expecting backlash.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2004 22:31:52 GMT 1
No backlash - a valid opinion.
Thought he had a good first half, and was in play lots but as you say, needs to start scoring. Lets give him and Langmead a chance eh?
Rochdale's opener tonight was scored by a striker with 1 goal in 21 games so far this year.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2004 22:32:28 GMT 1
I wouldn't question his commitment but at the end of the day strikers are supposed to score. He isn't doing the business and it's time we tried something different.
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Post by telfordSHREWS on Dec 7, 2004 22:33:23 GMT 1
Luke provided a great ball to Tolley in the first half after running half the lengh of the pitch and carved open the Rochdale defence, Tolley still needed a second attemp to miss the open goal though
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Post by not impressed on Dec 7, 2004 22:34:20 GMT 1
Get rid... sure some foolish team will pay for him, how long has he got left? before he goes free?
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Post by no name this time on Dec 7, 2004 22:35:58 GMT 1
I'm sorry to say it folks but someones got to say it but Luke Rogers just aint good enough.2 goals in 19 games tells me that luke rogers has been well and truly found out.He looked the least likely to score tonight than any player on the pitch.He looked totally uninterested and when he did have the ball at his feet he looked clueless.There was no outlet from him and when he did get the ball he just ran blindly into trouble when there was teammates screaming at him for the ball.I'm afraid he is only playing for himself and not for the team.Time for a spell in the reserves for Luke Rogers. Now expecting backlash. a stint in the stiff would do him the world of good, i've never been keen on the 'too good to drop' attitude some managers/fans have with players eg sven on owen and beckham. what encouragement (wrong word) is that for a player to keep playing well?
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Post by john on Dec 7, 2004 22:43:12 GMT 1
Skinner Im with you 100% here. saturday Lowe and Langmead up front for me
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2004 22:44:58 GMT 1
Skinner Im with you 100% here. saturday Lowe and Langmead up front for me Where's the extra midfielder coming from JP?
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Post by DiggerDave on Dec 7, 2004 22:45:14 GMT 1
The glory days of Luke Rodgers are over.He s had more chances and partners than he deserves.Defenders seem to have the measure of him every time.Didn t he used to have speed which frightened defenders
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Post by john on Dec 7, 2004 22:46:54 GMT 1
Where's the extra midfielder coming from JP? Need someone badly on the left...someone on the right too, but I would shift Rodgers and Lowe about myself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2004 22:48:09 GMT 1
If you look at Luke's goalscoring record, most come during the warmer months when pitches are in decent nick. This time of year pitches are going to cut up and be uneven and it doesn't help his style of play. I doubt things are going to get better for him in the short term.
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Post by Dale on Dec 7, 2004 22:58:35 GMT 1
Most of the goals he scored early on in his career were from forward throughball passes for him to chase, but it does seem like he's been well and truly found out now, the Luke Rodgers who we thought would have such a great career in the Championship at least might not do so after all now, I want to keep on backing the lad but how many more games will it take? Come on Luke please prove me wrong....
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Post by DiggerDave on Dec 7, 2004 23:12:39 GMT 1
I think you ve hit the nail on the head there.I can t see where his goals are going to come from.He runs his legs off but to no advantage.
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Post by lou crodgers on Dec 7, 2004 23:16:39 GMT 1
maybe its time for him to drop into midfield as a terrier bit your ankles type getting on the oppos nerves. he's obviously got bags of energy so being a box to box player's not beyond him its whether he'd fancy being a work horse type
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Post by Dale on Dec 7, 2004 23:19:29 GMT 1
maybe its time for him to drop into midfield as a terrier bit your ankles type getting on the oppos nerves. he's obviously got bags of energy so being a box to box player's not beyond him its whether he'd fancy being a work horse type I dont know why he's never been tried as a winger myself, he played in that position when he first came to the club at the centre of excellence. Wherever he plays, we just want the old Luke back
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Post by pawlo on Dec 7, 2004 23:24:18 GMT 1
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Post by kevin keegan on Dec 7, 2004 23:29:23 GMT 1
you are about to turn a corner, you just don't know where the corner is............
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Post by wibbin on Dec 7, 2004 23:32:28 GMT 1
Can't believe what im reading...
Apart form MOC Luke was my MOM tonight - He gets f all service and always gives 100%. If only some of the others would follow his lead.
All this sh!t about Ryan Lowe up front makes me mad. He has 1 good game in 4 - he knows nothing about commitment.
If,as I have read, he bleeds blue and amber can you tell me why he bottles every tackle he goes in for? I say 'goes in for' in the broadest sense of the term. It should read jumps over any 50-50 ball.
Peters wants rid of Tinson, Challis and Whitehead but until he can get new players, and left sided ones at that, in then we are fcked. GP said he cant believe the lack of left footed players at the club.
Drop Tolley and play Street in mid with MOC -
Street played left mid tonight 'because he was all we had' from the horses mouth.
Luke isnt doing the business because he's getting no service. Lets not delude ourselves here - he isnt Thierry Henry!
Thank you and goodnight
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Post by DiggerDave on Dec 7, 2004 23:59:05 GMT 1
Gregor Rioch always gave 100%.
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Post by rep on Dec 8, 2004 1:36:43 GMT 1
Cant believe I've read this sh*te about Luke. Ask yourselves this question : If you turned up fior work every day and the guy you work with was different each time - tell me how much understanding would you have with your 'so called partner' Not rocket science is it ? Luke has had at LEAST 5 different strike partners this season and none one of them has parterned him for more than two games running. So tell me - how many of you would be scoring 'brownie points ' each tiime ya went to work if the guy next to ya changed each week. Luke doesnt need a run in the reserves - just a regular partner - no coincidence his best return for the Town was when Jemson was beside him most weeks... Grr ... rant over
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 8, 2004 2:02:12 GMT 1
Tonight there was not one pass or flick on for Luke behind their defence for him to chase
Jemson / Woan used to provide 2-3 a game
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Post by mattsnappernli on Dec 8, 2004 3:07:02 GMT 1
maybe its time for him to drop into midfield as a terrier bit your ankles type getting on the oppos nerves. he's obviously got bags of energy so being a box to box player's not beyond him its whether he'd fancy being a work horse type lou crodgers - class!
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Post by Belgravia Court Shrew on Dec 8, 2004 9:38:03 GMT 1
Hate to say it but Mr Jemson was the reason Luke used to grab goals.
No I've said something complementry about Jemmo, I need to counteract it with an insult...the Fat T*at.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 8, 2004 9:39:14 GMT 1
Once the team comes good so will Luke...
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Post by mattm on Dec 8, 2004 9:57:46 GMT 1
If Town are going to stop up this year we need a striker to get 10-15 goals by the end of the season. Looking at the current squad Darby, Grant and Lowe have never got that many goals in a season, never mind 25 games, so we've got to stick with Luke. I'll probably get slated for this but I don't think Town fans realised quite how good Jemson was alongside Luke - if he's reasonably fit (don't laugh) I'd get him back to the club and play him alongside Luke for the rest of the season.
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Post by rob on Dec 8, 2004 10:05:30 GMT 1
Lowe has scored 10+ goals a season for the last 2/3 seasons running. He normally comes good after Christmas.
I would add that Rodgers did the business for two and a bit seasons running at this level, I doubt very much he suddenly got foundout by conference defenders and then league 2 defenders.
Poor training, teams style of play, lack of effective strike partner, revolving strike partners, and just playing in a s**te team have probably all taken a greater effect on the little bugger than we give credit for.
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Post by True_Shrew on Dec 8, 2004 10:18:24 GMT 1
The time is now to drop him on to the wing, to much faith has been put into the lad to score goals and I'm sure he could create a few chances from there.
Come on Roland, open the book once more and get us going again.
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Post by TOWN2001 on Dec 10, 2004 7:52:46 GMT 1
Luke is A1. Scoring or not his mere presence on the field commands respect from opposing sides. Fact is we don't have anyone good enough to play alongside him. He' s certainly lost his spark but it's not surprising when he's constantly trying to get on the end of hoofed high balls and lost causes for 90 minutes. Tuesday night was typical of the cr*p he has to put up with. Someone with a bit of vision in midfield might help.
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Post by Lufbra Salop on Dec 10, 2004 9:20:12 GMT 1
Sorry but I think the loss of Jemson to Lukes game is highly over rated. Two seasons ago Luke was as good as any striker in this league on his own. His goal against Rochdale (3 seasons ago?) didnt come from Jemson, it came from his own class. The real trigger for Lukes bad form has come from us not letting him go. He may run around allot and try his best, but the real passion and confidence he used to have for scoring goals has gone, perhap its a subconcious thing but I dont think his heart is in it anymore. Its not that we're struggling either as i though he improved the most as a player the season we went do.
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Post by stainesr on Dec 10, 2004 10:23:36 GMT 1
Don't drop Luke, at least not for any number of games. I think he is down on confidence and needs to find his self-belief. I can't believe it's because he doesn't give a sh*t any more because it's in his own interests to score goals. He needs to bag some this season to get the offers coming in from the big clubs when his contract runs out. Bring in quality players like Atkins or Jemson, though possibly not as old and fat, and Luke will start scoring. Darby must be a nightmare to partner up front. His main asset, when on form, is his volleying and goalpoaching. But Darby can't win the ball off goal kicks like Jemmo used to so we are always chasing the ball trying to win it back. That means the kind of flowing, passing play Luke needs never gets in motion. Darby lacks the technical passing ability of Atkins or Jemmo that Luke needs. Sort useless Darby out or find a target man before slagging off Luke. I haven't seen Langmead yet, so he could well be the answer.
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