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Post by harmerhillshrew on Apr 19, 2004 17:49:40 GMT 1
Can't believe what I'm reading. The Shrews have finished 3rd in their first season in what is a weird league to get used to. You have an even chance (in my humble opinion) of getting back into the league at the first attempt........ and you're calling for the managers head. Do you know how pathetic this looks to an outsider? Especially one with a soft spot for you. A few are not impressed with JQ, that few would still have a go if we had the best manager in the world. Trashing the manager is the easiest thing to do as one day he will get sacked or move on to better things. The few will then say told you so if sacked or wish we had so and so back if they have gone on to better things, as in the case this season when Graham Turners name keeps coming out.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 19, 2004 18:08:29 GMT 1
I don't see the logic of this "in spite of... not because of" argument. So are you suggesting that the players basically sleep-walked their way to 3rd place in the league and Jimmy Quinn had no input whatsoever? It's got nothing to do with pulling the wool over people's eyes, it's to do with do with the manager doing a good (if not great) job in getting a team to 3rd place in their first season in the Conference, the highest a team just relegated from Div.3 has finished for 13 years since Colchester came runners-up to Barnet. You state loud and clear that Quinn is not the man for the job, well, as per usual for the Anti-Quinn brigade, you haven't suggested an alternative, have you? All mouth and no action some of you. How about Arsene Wenger, Claudio Ranieri or Alex Ferguson?
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Post by SimonR on Apr 19, 2004 18:30:12 GMT 1
How about Arsene Wenger, Claudio Ranieri or Alex Ferguson? I assume that was being ironic...:-O
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Apr 19, 2004 18:58:24 GMT 1
I don't see the logic of this "in spite of... not because of" argument. So are you suggesting that the players basically sleep-walked their way to 3rd place in the league and Jimmy Quinn had no input whatsoever? It's got nothing to do with pulling the wool over people's eyes, it's to do with do with the manager doing a good (if not great) job in getting a team to 3rd place in their first season in the Conference, the highest a team just relegated from Div.3 has finished for 13 years since Colchester came runners-up to Barnet. You state loud and clear that Quinn is not the man for the job, well, as per usual for the Anti-Quinn brigade, you haven't suggested an alternative, have you? All mouth and no action some of you. Actually pal, I have suggested an alternative. You don't even support Shrewsbury so do not know all the goings on at our club. You come on here from time to time and put your twopenneth in when you actually know sod all about our club. As is proved by your statement saying no alternative has been suggested. Just to reiterate, I sugested Mickey Heathcote. Also I feel Nigel Pearson would do a damned good job and wouldn't mind seeing Ross McLaren or Tommy Lych either. They are all ex players who commanded great respect and no s**t. They were complete professionals. I am not the chairman and not on the board so cannot influence the decision of who is appointed manager. The board had the wool pulled over their eyes by a smooth talking Irishman who talked the talk with how he was going to run and do things but who quite simply hasn't walked the walk. We came down in the healthiest of positions possibly any club has ever been relegated to the Conference with. We kept all of our up and coming young players, plus the best of the rest. We have invested heavily in players with proven experience at both this and league level (in some cases such as Duanne Darby, both). Our wage bill for players is the highest it has ever being as testament to this. I do not have a qualm with being in the play-offs. Chester are champions and deservedly so. The table does not lie. However, we have limped to third in a truly awful league. Even Saturday we were awful first half. You keep to your own club and write on their board about things you know about. Celebrate your own clubs success as you obviously see it if you like. But don't come on here spouting off every now and again about things you clearly know **** all about!
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Post by Shakey252 on Apr 19, 2004 19:13:08 GMT 1
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Post by SimonR on Apr 19, 2004 23:17:54 GMT 1
Actually pal, I have suggested an alternative. You don't even support Shrewsbury so do not know all the goings on at our club. You come on here from time to time and put your twopenneth in when you actually know sod all about our club. As is proved by your statement saying no alternative has been suggested. Just to reiterate, I sugested Mickey Heathcote. Also I feel Nigel Pearson would do a damned good job and wouldn't mind seeing Ross McLaren or Tommy Lych either. They are all ex players who commanded great respect and no sh!t. They were complete professionals. I am not the chairman and not on the board so cannot influence the decision of who is appointed manager. The board had the wool pulled over their eyes by a smooth talking Irishman who talked the talk with how he was going to run and do things but who quite simply hasn't walked the walk. We came down in the healthiest of positions possibly any club has ever been relegated to the Conference with. We kept all of our up and coming young players, plus the best of the rest. We have invested heavily in players with proven experience at both this and league level (in some cases such as Duanne Darby, both). Our wage bill for players is the highest it has ever being as testament to this. I do not have a qualm with being in the play-offs. Chester are champions and deservedly so. The table does not lie. However, we have limped to third in a truly awful league. Even Saturday we were awful first half. You keep to your own club and write on their board about things you know about. Celebrate your own clubs success as you obviously see it if you like. But don't come on here spouting off every now and again about things you clearly know f**k all about! You're right, I don't know an awful lot about your club, but this board is linked to Confguide, so surely you'd expect rival supporters to come on here every now and then to offer an outside opinion? I didn't know you'd suggested alternatives elsewhere as I am not a regular and I saw no evidence on this thread from yourself or other posters. You argue that your team has achieved 3rd place despite of, not because of him. On the basis, why have a manager if the players seem perfectly capable of doing it by themselves? If the board had the wool wrapped over their eyes as you claim then more fool them - without meaning to be patronising, more than the fans it is them who should know what they are doing and be in the position to make the decisions over who to appoint and whether to retain or dispense with their services. And wasn't it the fans' approval that influenced the decision in the first place - which in turn had been influenced by Swindon and Northwich fans coming on B&A and saying he was a good appointment?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 19, 2004 23:29:28 GMT 1
Northwich maybe but neither Swindon nor Reading fans came on here and voiced an opinion.
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Post by harmerhillshrew on Apr 19, 2004 23:49:22 GMT 1
Northwich maybe but neither Swindon nor Reading fans came on here and voiced an opinion. Oh dear JP, you may want to remove that post before Shrews and Royals sees it
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Apr 19, 2004 23:52:52 GMT 1
Well ok maybe one
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Post by Shrews and Royals on Apr 20, 2004 0:08:47 GMT 1
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Apr 20, 2004 7:38:06 GMT 1
You are very good at twisting words sunshine. No of course the players don't mange themselves. What sort of diatribe is that? And if you read up properly on here you will see that one of our biggest complaints is changing tactics all the time and changing the team round all the time. So that is the players fault is it?
What do you mean the fans approval influenced the boards decision? The appointment was made prior to the fans knowledge (once again you prove you know jack all). The fans response initially to the appointment was luke warm to say the least. But hey we decided to give the fella time. This we have done, and by and large we are not happy with what we have seen.
As for your truly classic "more fool the board for having the wool wrapped over their eyes". Quinn came with impressive qualifications, having UEFA "A" coaching badges. He said he would sort out discipline, have the team training 2 or 3 times a day. That we would be the fittest team out and kill off other teams the last 10-15 minutes (hence why we have conceeded so many late goals against part-time teams). Basically the guy said he would do all the things the board was looking for. He has the gift of the gab and therefore interviews well. Do you not work with people who are not up to the job? Isn't that because they came across well at an interview? The best interviewee will not necessarily make the best employee.
Have you never been duped by anything or anyone? No, I'm forgetting you haven't have you, because your a proper little know it all - especially when it comes to all things blue and amber!
Go back to Barnet sir and write up on things you know about. I will write up on here on things I know about.
Talking about things I know about - Matt Fatmile; big fat waster who got turned by a combined harvester last season. Mainly because he hardly ever trained (fact) and helped get us relegated from the football league (fact) with his truely awful attitude (fact). Enjoy the tub of lard Simon, he will reveal himself (eventually) he did at Notts Co and he did here.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 20, 2004 10:32:17 GMT 1
I assume that was being ironic...:-O Not at all our kid, I always find it a tad daft when people go on about suggesting alternatives when it comes the manager...you see you can recommend anyone you like but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter...because you can only select from those who actually want and apply for the position. Many people suggested Steve Cotterill (a fair suggestion in my opinion) the last time the Town managerial position was up for grabs...all very well of course but he didn't want the job and didn't apply...get me meaning? ;D Oh yeah...excellent posts BVS...do find it hard to understand how supporters from other clubs can come here and criticise opinions expressed by Town fans about the Town when they haven't seen us play (well, no more than twice) this season...
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Apr 20, 2004 14:12:48 GMT 1
Cheers Stutty. It's not just about the playing side of things tho' mate. Granted, that is what the majority see, but there is oh so much wrong with our club behind the scenes at the moment and, ultimately yes, that transpires to what we see in 90 minutes on a Saturday afrternoon.
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Apr 20, 2004 14:31:09 GMT 1
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 20, 2004 14:39:32 GMT 1
Cheers Stutty. It's not just about the playing side of things tho' mate. Granted, that is what the majority see, but there is oh so much wrong with our club behind the scenes at the moment and, ultimately yes, that transpires to what we see in 90 minutes on a Saturday afrternoon. Aye...spot on our kid, can't argue with that...
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Post by shrewsbadger on Apr 20, 2004 18:34:33 GMT 1
As my dearly departed mother once said "A closed mouth gathers no foot"
I refuse to enter into such nonsense anymore, and am ashamed that I have logged onto this site again. It's just so dam addictive even when it winds me up so much!
Is there any help I can recieve? I just want to go back to how it used to be, sitting in the pub listening to the ridiculous views of just a handful of friends, not have to listen to the drivel of anyone who can switch on a PC.
I know I'm right so why do you all wind me up so much?
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