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Post by SouthStandShrew on Feb 10, 2005 20:02:11 GMT 1
Just read what Gary Neville has to say bout it, anyone else think he has a point?
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Post by benlennagain on Feb 10, 2005 20:03:38 GMT 1
has anyone notcied that from a distance the kick racism out of football badges look like a stone island patch.....ironic...or perhaps its just me.
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Post by peterjones1 on Feb 10, 2005 20:05:16 GMT 1
To an extend yes.
These wristbands are becoming nothing more than fashion accessories, people paying £25 for 'MakePovertyHistory' bands on ebay, clearly with no sense of irony. Do you think the sellers give this money to the charity? No. Do you think the buyers care? No.
It's shocking to be honest.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Feb 10, 2005 20:07:03 GMT 1
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Post by benlennagain on Feb 10, 2005 20:09:05 GMT 1
www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/D152DB76-6DA9-4C78-B814-see it does look a bit like stone-island I cant stand the wristband craze, i dont think you can be called charitable if you brazenly show off how much you give....it makes me wonder if its a purelty selfish notion
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Post by siabod on Feb 10, 2005 20:21:01 GMT 1
If Nike feel so strongly about the racism issue, (and along with the rest of us they should do), the wrist bands should be free of charge, if they are supplied on this basis fair play, if however the they charge for them it can only be a commercial decision and Gary Neville has a point.
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Post by rob on Feb 10, 2005 20:39:22 GMT 1
Have a look on buckschat they are hawking them about, arent even prepared to sell them on for a 50p profit to their fellow supporters.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Feb 10, 2005 20:40:25 GMT 1
We all wear the blue beat bullying bands FREE not even a charge for the post, Anti Racism message is good, tatics very, very poor.
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Post by x emz x on Feb 11, 2005 0:43:25 GMT 1
i can see the point about it, but as i said on the youth board, you cant tell me thierry henry hasnt made money out of this as well??! i have one of the wristbands personally. however, the only place to get one is on e-bay as everywhere else has sold out of them, and i wanted one because i agree with anti-racism, as for "do the buyers care? no" well yes alot of them do, i got 2 off ebay for my mum and her friend, and they care about it,so you cant say that. its a subtle way of getting the point across thats all.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 11, 2005 1:09:22 GMT 1
I can't help but think that Neville is just upset becausse he is sponsored by Diadora
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Post by peterjones1 on Feb 11, 2005 1:12:25 GMT 1
i can see the point about it, but as i said on the youth board, you cant tell me thierry henry hasnt made money out of this as well??! i have one of the wristbands personally. however, the only place to get one is on e-bay as everywhere else has sold out of them, and i wanted one because i agree with anti-racism, as for "do the buyers care? no" well yes alot of them do, i got 2 off ebay for my mum and her friend, and they care about it,so you cant say that. its a subtle way of getting the point across thats all. I don't doubt for one second to good intentions of yourself or indeed many others Em. But I find it very hard to believe that someone who pays £25 for a wristband is doing so simply out of support for the anti-racism campaign. There are many other ways in which they could act without forking out that ridiculous kind of money...
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Post by Alfonso on Feb 11, 2005 1:25:15 GMT 1
FASHIONISTAS!!! ema can you honestly answer me this - what if nike did a t shirt for anti racism or soemthing similiar that wasnt in fashion now would you and everyone else want one for so much? personally i wear a pink one for breast cancer which a mate bought officially meaning all money went to the charity, i also wear it as i like the colour pink i got one of the anti bullying bands off the bbc but when i saw the ridicoulous prices they were going for i thought id sell it to some gullible fashinista who thinks they need to wear it tolook cool.... i got £25 for it, for a piece of rubber and i laughed my non fashionable socks off its fashion all the way and last nights england game was over the top for me - next purchase, the nti wristbands wristband!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2005 1:30:42 GMT 1
Personally if I want to give money to charity, I'll pay it straight into the charity's bank account.
These wrist bands - people are only buying them to look 'cool', it's very dissapointing.
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Post by PorkyShrew on Feb 11, 2005 1:33:58 GMT 1
Personally if I want to give money to charity, I'll pay it straight into the charity's bank account. These wrist bands - people are only buying them to look 'cool', it's very dissapointing. so how would you show a stance against something? just a question not having a dig cos i agree, but was wondering how people can show a stance against something like this...
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Post by john on Feb 11, 2005 1:36:36 GMT 1
Personally if I want to give money to charity, I'll pay it straight into the charity's bank account. These wrist bands - people are only buying them to look 'cool', it's very dissapointing. What your views on the anti-bullying one Phil?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2005 1:41:18 GMT 1
What your views on the anti-bullying one Phil? Anti-bullying campaign is a good idea but they've put a lot of money into making wristbands and creating an advertising campaign that they could have spent actually solving the problem. Can you really see the stereotypical school bulley seeing kelly Homes on TV wearing one of those bands and then thinking to himself "what I've done is wrong, I'll stop bullying now" - unfortunately it isn't gonna happen.
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Post by john on Feb 11, 2005 1:46:46 GMT 1
No, very good point.
only the other day my wife was waiting outside in the car for H and coming out of the school was a lad brandishing a pair of scissors, having a pop at kids threatening to cut their hair etc
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Post by benlennagain on Feb 11, 2005 2:25:23 GMT 1
No, very good point. only the other day my wife was waiting outside in the car for H and coming out of the school was a lad brandishing a pair of scissors, having a pop at kids threatening to cut their hair etc Nicky clarke needs to keep those kids undercontrol
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Post by rob on Feb 11, 2005 2:58:27 GMT 1
A friend of mine has told me that Oxfan have brought out some "Make poverty history" bands. I intend on buying one. Why? Because its fashionable? no, because i agree with the sentiment, wore a jubillee 2000 debt badge wrote letters etc and feel that this bracelet/band, like a WWJD band (before they became fashionable) helps me give my subtle support to the campaign as well as make me think about how lucky we/i am during the day. However i will not be buying one from anywhere other than an Oxfan shop or a Christian bookshop. Tis disguesting that people are making such are large sums out of money out of charity. *and no i didnt sell my glasto tickets on ebay in the end, i sold them at face value to one of my best mates and her friend. Attack of the morals
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Post by chrisj on Feb 11, 2005 7:53:54 GMT 1
Don't know if Nike are making a profit from it, but they sure as hell wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't good for Nike. I think Neville may have a point. I will never write that sentence again. Does anyone else think the the wristband thing will lose impact, there being so many different sorts? Like those ribbons that started off just pink for breast cancer, then there was one for AIDS, one for Amnesty and so on.
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Post by MartinB on Feb 11, 2005 8:02:47 GMT 1
I just see the wrist bands as a fashion accessory. My step-son is wearing one (don't know what it means) it is purely about image he couldn't give a monkey's about what it represents.
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Post by texmexshrew on Feb 11, 2005 10:16:36 GMT 1
Don't know if Nike are making a profit from it, but they sure as hell wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't good for Nike. I think Neville may have a point. I will never write that sentence again. Does anyone else think the the wristband thing will lose impact, there being so many different sorts? Like those ribbons that started off just pink for breast cancer, then there was one for AIDS, one for Amnesty and so on. I think that there is an element of profit making in this now. I had the yellow band last year, the Lance Armstrong Live strong campaign. As mentioned there are pink,red,blue, green bands available now and I agree that the impact of any new campaigns will be limited due to mass marketing and flooding of the market.
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Post by benlennagain on Feb 11, 2005 13:26:33 GMT 1
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Post by Cynical Shew on Feb 12, 2005 11:22:45 GMT 1
A friend of mine has told me that Oxfan have brought out some "Make poverty history" bands. I intend on buying one. Why? Because its fashionable? no, because i agree with the sentiment, wore a jubillee 2000 debt badge wrote letters etc and feel that this bracelet/band, like a WWJD band (before they became fashionable) helps me give my subtle support to the campaign as well as make me think about how lucky we/i am during the day. However i will not be buying one from anywhere other than an Oxfan shop or a Christian bookshop. Tis disguesting that people are making such are large sums out of money out of charity. *and no i didnt sell my glasto tickets on ebay in the end, i sold them at face value to one of my best mates and her friend. Attack of the morals Any 'Christian' hoping to 'make poverty history' would do well to study the Gospels. Matthew 26 for instance.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 12, 2005 11:34:30 GMT 1
Any 'Christian' hoping to 'make poverty history' would do well to study the Gospels. Matthew 26 for instance. Matthew 26?
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Post by Cynical Shew on Feb 12, 2005 11:41:12 GMT 1
"For you have the poor always with you"
Matt 26.11
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Post by rob on Feb 12, 2005 12:07:39 GMT 1
I'm sure the Bible would take exception to the level of third world debt, especially the rates at which they're forced to pay it back.....
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 12, 2005 19:32:03 GMT 1
"For you have the poor always with you" Matt 26.11 That isn't a command though is it? there will always be poor people, wherever and whenever, oftne through mistakes, personal choices etc etc But Mark explains that comment Mark 14:7 - For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you will, you can do good to them; but you will not always have me.
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Post by Cynical Shrew on Feb 12, 2005 19:35:55 GMT 1
That isn't a command though is it? there will always be poor people, wherever and whenever, oftne through mistakes, personal choices etc etc . Or being unfortunate to be born dimmer than others. I have no problem with showing compassion to the poor, but have not time for nonsense like "abolishing poverty". Why was my post deleted BTW?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 12, 2005 19:39:34 GMT 1
you know why
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