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Post by CuyahogaBlue on Jan 7, 2005 20:04:18 GMT 1
1) Shrewsbury didn't show 2) Bury lost money 3) FA charge Shrewsbury We all know the Shrewsbury coach was stuck in traffic - IMO I doubt whether the FA will consider this sufficient to warrent no fine. Bury should get fully compensated, and I think the FA will ask/require Shrewsbury to pay that compensation, as well as a nominal fine. It may not seem fair, but the FA are going to do more than give us a
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 20:21:19 GMT 1
I am willing to retract all previous statements if it means we don't get fined 3 points......
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Post by Danielson on Jan 7, 2005 20:37:19 GMT 1
The League would be setting a very dangerous precedent if they deducted points.
After all Chesterfield were proved to have been doing some very dodgy stuf and only lost 9 points.
A fine will be imposed.
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Post by How on Jan 7, 2005 20:38:25 GMT 1
It was out of our control no doubt about it. However, seeing the trouble that Bury are in - maybe STFC should give some money -maybe 5k as a sort of 'goodwill' gesture after the cancellation This would have to come the boards own pockets, not the clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 20:45:10 GMT 1
Cuyahoga, it was a major accident and footie match or not I will be very surprised if STFC get punished severely ie points deducted or a heavy fine.
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Jan 7, 2005 20:55:03 GMT 1
Foxie, some think it was deliberate, ie the accident was known about either in advance? or the coach lot caught wind of it and drove that way on purpose If arrangement for leaving were not made early enough then fined we will be, or if we could have managed to get off the motorway and got the players to go on there own, if they could have got there, the main thing will be could we have somehow got enough players there to start the match, I know some were there but Mossy was banned, who else turned up i can't remember. I can't see why some of our fans want thier own club punished, STFC would not risk the rath of the FA of this i'm sure
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Post by CuyahogaBlue on Jan 7, 2005 21:01:50 GMT 1
I think it will be a nominal fine, the more important part I think is the compensation to Bury. I don't think Bury should have to suffer at all over this. If Shrewsbury are not required to give compensation, will the FA? My bet (and I'm always wrong ) is that the FA will provide nothing and require Shrewsbury to foot the bill. Thats the unfair part
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Jan 7, 2005 21:22:40 GMT 1
Foxie, some think it was deliberate, ie the accident was known about either in advance? or the coach lot caught wind of it and drove that way on purpose If arrangement for leaving were not made early enough then fined we will be, or if we could have managed to get off the motorway and got the players to go on there own, if they could have got there, the main thing will be could we have somehow got enough players there to start the match, I know some were there but Mossy was banned, who else turned up i can't remember. I can't see why some of our fans want thier own club punished, STFC would not risk the rath of the FA of this i'm sure I wish I knew who orchestrated this rumour as it is absolute tosh The coach was stuck in between junctions and like I have said time and time again, 5 mins earlier and the town bus could have been in the pile up.. 10 mins later the bus could have diverted leaving 2 players at service station but fulfilling the fixture
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Post by ManchesterShrew on Jan 7, 2005 21:49:38 GMT 1
If we get fined - can we claim it back on who ever caused the accidents insurance policy?
Perhaps the individual fans could claim for the cost of a wasted trip!
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Post by siabod on Jan 7, 2005 21:57:55 GMT 1
Appreciate the problem Bury have but they hav'nt lost the total income, they will get most of it when the match is played. Catering income is a different matter and no doubt suitable recompense will have to be made. As for the best route between the two towns (everyone has their favourite) but if motorways are not considered the most suitable for this type of coach travel then our transport routes are in an even worse state than I thought.
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Post by bristol loggerheads on Jan 7, 2005 22:12:20 GMT 1
Won't Bury be insured for this?
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Post by woking shrew on Jan 7, 2005 22:24:34 GMT 1
The League would be setting a very dangerous precedent if they deducted points. After all Chesterfield were proved to have been doing some very dodgy stuf and only lost 9 points. A fine will be imposed. Precedent is already set. Middlesbrough didn't show at Blackburn (i think) as thery had about 10 players out with flu. they were deducted 3 points - which meant at the end of the season they were relegated. obviously this is a bit different. i would be surprised if we had points deducted as we were at least trying to get there but i would expect a fine and compensation to Bury for possible negligence in not being flexible in changing the route after finding out the accident had happened.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2005 22:30:30 GMT 1
Precedent is already set. Middlesbrough didn't show at Blackburn (i think) as thery had about 10 players out with flu. they were deducted 3 points - which meant at the end of the season they were relegated. obviously this is a bit different. i would be surprised if we had points deducted as we were at least trying to get there but i would expect a fine and compensation to Bury for possible negligence in not being flexible in changing the route after finding out the accident had happened. The important difference between us and Boro - as you have pointed out - is that we were trying to get there. I guess it's up to the FA to determind whether we took every step we could to avoid it - and whether avoiding it was a possibility. We'll get a fine but nothing more.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 7, 2005 22:58:06 GMT 1
I wouldn't mind some cash compensation meself, long way to travel is Bury for fook all...
Don't think we can compare this with what happened with Boro and I do not think we will have points deducted...agree that we may see a small fine, mind...
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Jan 7, 2005 23:56:09 GMT 1
I wish I knew who orchestrated this rumour as it is absolute tosh The coach was stuck in between junctions and like I have said time and time again, 5 mins earlier and the town bus could have been in the pile up.. 10 mins later the bus could have diverted leaving 2 players at service station but fulfilling the fixture It seems to be the done thing at the moment, perhaps some people live such boring lives they have nothing better to do than have a go at thier own club, why? gawd only knows, it does a lot of damage, with other supporters reading this board and with the club's employee's and board, no wonder they seem to have little faith in us as a group, it is not STFC's fault if Bury are having money problems again, if it is proved that the club did something wrong then ok, have ago then, why oh why do the club have to be always guilty before they can prove thier innocence, its no wonder the board are less inclined to 'listen' to the fans over issues like shirts etc, when every thing is made into a conspiracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2005 9:29:48 GMT 1
It seems to be the done thing at the moment, perhaps some people live such boring lives they have nothing better to do than have a go at thier own club, why? gawd only knows, it does a lot of damage, with other supporters reading this board and with the club's employee's and board, no wonder they seem to have little faith in us as a group, it is not STFC's fault if Bury are having money problems again, if it is proved that the club did something wrong then ok, have ago then, why oh why do the club have to be always guilty before they can prove thier innocence, its no wonder the board are less inclined to 'listen' to the fans over issues like shirts etc, when every thing is made into a conspiracy.
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