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Post by rob on Jan 5, 2005 0:04:09 GMT 1
Just heard on MOTD that video technology is going to be tested out in the carling cup final-goal line only.
My question is that when this is eventually introduced across football (which it will be at some point) who will it effect?
Football league and premiers**te?
conference? Conference south and North? How expensive will it be toi install? How long before it covers offsides and other decisions?
And will it fragment and ruin the game, opening up the opportunity for ITV/Sky to fit mini advert breaks into the game whilst a decsion is being made???
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jan 5, 2005 1:09:37 GMT 1
There is technology available to do all sorts of decent things in football
sensors in the ball would allow you to know if it had gone out, that is available now
A couple of mini cameras sunk into the goalposts would answer all queries relating to whether the ball crosses the line, and Chesterfield would have been int he cup final, but we may not have won the world cup...
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Post by mattsnapper2 on Jan 5, 2005 3:16:24 GMT 1
but football should be left to humans
TV works in Rugby League and is fab in cricket but football should be left free flowing
it gets me how many managers go mad at refs for certain penalty appeals - but not every penalty kick goes in and how many times do managers go mad like they do at refs to their own strikers for 4 yd open goal misses
I conceede the only video technology should be used to determine if the ball crosses a line or not. You lot are having more fun because its rob lewis but to be fair to him he was miles away as he was only doing his job keeping up with play. Viewed from up above its easy to see the ball crossed the line. None of the photographers at Man U thought it was in until we saw Sky after. Rob too was on ground level and was chasing back. The ref was actually blocked due to Carrols dive.
Perhaps more linos like in tennis ..??
Have another linesman on the other side just concentrating on penalty box action..?
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Post by Tony_HullShrew on Jan 5, 2005 7:55:12 GMT 1
Don't we have two linesmen, in part so that they can see different angles - shouldn't one of them have been placed to see the goal?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2005 8:42:04 GMT 1
Video technology would be absolutely horrible.
The beauty of football is it simplicity and the consistent nature of its rules whether played on a park or whether it's been played in the World Cup Final.
This would change that.
Can anyone tell me how the referee would have decided to stop the game last night? Do players ask him to? The ball was after all, still in open play.
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Post by Ratcliffesghost on Jan 5, 2005 8:46:01 GMT 1
Video technology would be absolutely horrible. On the plus side, it had the advantage of sending a number of Manc Fans off quietly to bed at 9.50 last night
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2005 9:12:16 GMT 1
I think the only technology to be used in football should be related to when the ball crosses the line.
If the goal has sensors in it, maybe a non-visible light source could be used with some sort of CCD chip that set of a buzzer when the ball went in the net.
There would be no need to stop the game then as the system would tell you if a goal had been scored or not instantly without the need for replay.
However the technology would have to be tested over and over and made completely bug free before being used.
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Post by faginy on Jan 5, 2005 10:38:37 GMT 1
I think the only technology to be used in football should be related to when the ball crosses the line. If the goal has sensors in it, maybe a non-visible light source could be used with some sort of CCD chip that set of a buzzer when the ball went in the net. There would be no need to stop the game then as the system would tell you if a goal had been scored or not instantly without the need for replay. However the technology would have to be tested over and over and made completely bug free before being used. dunno how simple it would be though. i mean, how do you guarentee that the chip in the ball stays dead centre? and if there isn't a chip in the ball, how do you distingush between the ball and somone's leg. keep technology out of football!
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 5, 2005 10:46:01 GMT 1
Did i here some one say there will be useing it in the worthy cup final as a trile???
That will be intresting
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2005 10:51:11 GMT 1
Did i here some one say there will be useing it in the worthy cup final as a trile??? That will be intresting PRICEYSPEAK - ENGLISH Here - Hear some one - someone there - they useing - using trile - trial intresting - interesting
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Post by Mr T on Jan 5, 2005 11:08:09 GMT 1
if they can manage sensors on the net at tennis matches which go off instantly when the ball hits the net, then why is it so difficult at football matches?
The goal last night would have needed one look at a video clip, taken a maximum of 5 seconds, during which time play could have just been stopped.
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Post by Carter on Jan 5, 2005 11:14:00 GMT 1
the linos have radio buzzers linked to the ref already - why not have another one with the fella in the stand with the TV - play can continue unless the ref gets a buzz.... one buzz for stop the play - two for carry on....
Easy...
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Post by jamo on Jan 5, 2005 11:28:35 GMT 1
Perhap's i'm a luddite when it comes to technology but as far as i'm concerned you can stick it where football is concerned.
The intrinsic beauty and simplicity of this game has manged to survive for nearly 150 years with only the minimum of tinkering. It is meant to be a fast and free flowing sport that provokes opinion and sometimes controversy, that's why we go to watch it.
Football players, manager's and fans only really get agitated when it directly affect's their team other than that they enjoy the debate of it all.
There is definately an agenda from interested parties i.e. the television and other media outlet's for all sort's of gimic's to be introduced. We as football fan's should do everything to resist such moves.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2005 12:42:01 GMT 1
dunno how simple it would be though. i mean, how do you guarentee that the chip in the ball stays dead centre? and if there isn't a chip in the ball, how do you distingush between the ball and somone's leg. keep technology out of football! There would be no need or a chip in the ball, basically just a simple wire mesh maybe under the lining of the leather. This would be very cheap to manufacture and would make very little or no difference to the trajectory of the ball. I'm sure there are a couple of physics spin-off companies who are currently looking into the design of a goal detection unit. There are systems in place in tennis but these operate on the fact that the ball touches something be it the net or the ground - this obviously wouldn't work in football.
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