Shirehall

[Deleted]

Sept 20, 2024 10:33:18 GMT 1 iestywfc said:

as if by magic - and I presume the instigator of the thread

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwylxk2nm98o

Cant imagine Mr Wycherley is going to be too impressed with the dust and noise of the demolition!...
his house is across the road from the site

[rob62]

Turn it into a prison to relieve over crowding and to avoid the need for early release

[Rusholme Ruffian]

I fully back moving into the town centre for the offices, but I do fear about the transport infrastructure. It says 250 are using it as a base, but in my experience I wonder if that is 250 who are there 9-5 5 days a week, as it definitely appears there are more than 250 in the building in the days I spend there. Fair few of them are there for meetings & training etc and come and go (this is my use of shirehall) rather than there all day but they still are physically there.

That means you transplant most of them into a public car park that isn't that easy to access. Yes it's near the train and bus station but I'd be surprised if many are going to commute for a 2 hour meeting via the dire public transport or limited cycle routes.

Just hope guildhall is going to be one of them options rather than the shirehall replacement.

Is the riverside base still within the plans of that development?

No doubt shirehall should and will go though, and hopefully raises a bit of much needed cash

[DiglisShrew]

Sept 20, 2024 15:22:32 GMT 1 Rusholme Ruffian said:

I fully back moving into the town centre for the offices, but I do fear about the transport infrastructure. It says 250 are using it as a base, but in my experience I wonder if that is 250 who are there 9-5 5 days a week, as it definitely appears there are more than 250 in the building in the days I spend there. Fair few of them are there for meetings & training etc and come and go (this is my use of shirehall) rather than there all day but they still are physically there.

That means you transplant most of them into a public car park that isn't that easy to access. Yes it's near the train and bus station but I'd be surprised if many are going to commute for a 2 hour meeting via the dire public transport or limited cycle routes.

Just hope guildhall is going to be one of them options rather than the shirehall replacement.

Is the riverside base still within the plans of that development?

No doubt shirehall should and will go though, and hopefully raises a bit of much needed cash

I suspect that the council will “acquire” part of Frankwell Car park for staff parking 🤔

[BlueTone]

Sept 19, 2024 11:46:02 GMT 1 iestywfc said:

c20society.org.uk/buildings-at-risk/shirehall-shropshire

www.myshrewsbury.co.uk/blog/saving-shirehall-the-case-in-favour/


Historic England dont even think it is worth saving, hence the Certificate of Immunity. I would love the protestors who have set up SOS to actually undertake a working week in Shirehall in the summer and in the winter to see how bad the building is.

I recall discussions when i worked there about refurbishment but ultimately that was going to cost millions of pounds - for a near poverty council that would not be a good look tarting up a carbuncle when people are moaning about the state of the roads etc.

I worked in Whitehall for many years and have joined SOS. IMO it is an attractive gateway into the town, far more so than yet another identikit housing development.

[BlueTone]

☝️Shirehall not White hall

[zenfootball2]

Sept 20, 2024 15:27:10 GMT 1 DiglisShrew said:

Sept 20, 2024 15:22:32 GMT 1 Rusholme Ruffian said:

I fully back moving into the town centre for the offices, but I do fear about the transport infrastructure. It says 250 are using it as a base, but in my experience I wonder if that is 250 who are there 9-5 5 days a week, as it definitely appears there are more than 250 in the building in the days I spend there. Fair few of them are there for meetings & training etc and come and go (this is my use of shirehall) rather than there all day but they still are physically there.

That means you transplant most of them into a public car park that isn't that easy to access. Yes it's near the train and bus station but I'd be surprised if many are going to commute for a 2 hour meeting via the dire public transport or limited cycle routes.

Just hope guildhall is going to be one of them options rather than the shirehall replacement.

Is the riverside base still within the plans of that development?

No doubt shirehall should and will go though, and hopefully raises a bit of much needed cash

I suspect that the council will “acquire” part of Frankwell Car park for staff parking 🤔

Council staff have a permit/ pass were they don't have to pay at council car parks for work. Unlike NHS staff at the hospital!

[darkshrew]

Sept 20, 2024 16:09:52 GMT 1 zenfootball2 said:

Sept 20, 2024 15:27:10 GMT 1 DiglisShrew said:

I suspect that the council will “acquire” part of Frankwell Car park for staff parking 🤔

Council staff have a permit/ pass were they don't have to pay at council car parks for work. Unlike NHS staff at the hospital!

I didn't know that and I should say that I am surprised; but that epitomises the situation that we are in with both the council and the NHS. 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

Sept 21, 2024 7:17:51 GMT 1 darkshrew said:

Sept 20, 2024 16:09:52 GMT 1 zenfootball2 said:

Council staff have a permit/ pass were they don't have to pay at council car parks for work. Unlike NHS staff at the hospital!

I didn't know that and I should say that I am surprised; but that epitomises the situation that we are in with both the council and the NHS. 

NHS staff have been paying to park for years. I worked in mental health hospitals about a dozen years ago and it was nothing new.

[staffordshrew]

Sept 20, 2024 15:38:35 GMT 1 BlueTone said:

Sept 19, 2024 11:46:02 GMT 1 iestywfc said:

c20society.org.uk/buildings-at-risk/shirehall-shropshire

www.myshrewsbury.co.uk/blog/saving-shirehall-the-case-in-favour/


Historic England dont even think it is worth saving, hence the Certificate of Immunity. I would love the protestors who have set up SOS to actually undertake a working week in Shirehall in the summer and in the winter to see how bad the building is.

I recall discussions when i worked there about refurbishment but ultimately that was going to cost millions of pounds - for a near poverty council that would not be a good look tarting up a carbuncle when people are moaning about the state of the roads etc.

I worked in Whitehall for many years and have joined SOS. IMO it is an attractive gateway into the town, far more so than yet another identikit housing development.

Yes, it is an attractive sight on the way into town. But at what cost and how could it be repurposed? It reflects the "white heat" of design of it's time but has the problems too, asbestos being one.

[Deleted]

Sept 21, 2024 7:17:51 GMT 1 darkshrew said:

Sept 20, 2024 16:09:52 GMT 1 zenfootball2 said:

Council staff have a permit/ pass were they don't have to pay at council car parks for work. Unlike NHS staff at the hospital!

I didn't know that and I should say that I am surprised; but that epitomises the situation that we are in with both the council and the NHS. 

Its because the car parks that surround the NHS Hospitals are privately owned unfortunately, I agree its ridiculous that staff should have to pay to park there.

Several years ago a friends wife worked in one of the regional city Hospital and was paying over £1000 a Year for a permit.