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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 3, 2024 16:11:12 GMT 1
We seem pretty keen for Nolan to show us something considering the amount of playing time we're giving him.
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 3, 2024 16:13:34 GMT 1
Assume Olayinka has recovered from his knock and is the other trialist?
Strange to hear Bloxham is playing on the left. The Shipley/Benning linkup down the left has been one of our greatest strengths since PH returned.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 16:20:34 GMT 1
twitter was non stop last few games, hardly a comment today ;-(
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 3, 2024 16:21:47 GMT 1
We seem pretty keen for Nolan to show us something considering the amount of playing time we're giving him. I heard that Nolan had impressed at the training ground and was looking very likely to getting offered something before the slight muscle strain - this was about 2 weeks ago |
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 3, 2024 16:27:11 GMT 1
Marquis off. JJ on
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 3, 2024 16:34:10 GMT 1
Rossiter, Shipley and Winchester off. Nolan, Lloyd and Perry on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 16:48:59 GMT 1
So it could be that it's these two trialists plus the other Feeney on loan from Villa that are the remaining 3 to come in.
2 loan spaces left.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 16:50:42 GMT 1
Bang average performance although a better second 45.
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Post by chameleon on Aug 3, 2024 17:17:39 GMT 1
You do wonder where are the goals coming from. Looks same old problem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 17:39:02 GMT 1
I'm a bit more concerned at the other end with the goalkeepers.
Savins injury record and the other guy doesn't have a league appearance.
Wishful thinking that one of the loan spots is for a Goalkeeper.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 3, 2024 17:40:38 GMT 1
Slightly better 2nd half from us. Savin didn't have too much to do. Although i wonder if it's more because Oldham eased off.
They are 2nd favs to get promoted, and you can see why. Mellon has got a strong, physical side who bullied us all over the park. They were so much more organised than us. They won most 1st and 2nd balls, and looked fairly comfortable.
We didn't have a plan b.
Savin - 4
Benning - 6
Nsiala - 6.5
Feeney - 5
Hoole - 6.5
Bloxham - 5
Winchester - 6
Rossiter - 6
Shipley - 7
O'Reilly - 6.5
Marquis - 5.5
Pierre - 6
Biggins - 6
The other subs did nothing of note.
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Post by mattmw on Aug 3, 2024 17:49:26 GMT 1
Not followed the pre-season too much, but think overall we're perhaps where we'd expect to be ahead of the season starting? Not setting the world alight, but reasonable squad starting to come together which has clearly been given a lot of thought and consideration by the manager over the summer
I suspect the first 5-6 games of the league season will tell us a lot, but suspect it will rely on hard team work and solid tactics to help us pick up some results while the players settle, get that propery league one match fitness and start to get used to playing together. There are some good signs of a fitter more dynamic team this season, but as is so often the case a lot will rest on cutting out silly mistakes in defence that cost goals, and being that more clinical in taking chances when they come. Just hope we can snatch a few well earned 1.0 wins in the first few games to settle things down and provide a base to work from.
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Post by flixo84 on Aug 3, 2024 19:06:49 GMT 1
Said good morning to RW on my way to work this morning. 👋🏻
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 3, 2024 19:27:46 GMT 1
I’ll let it off because it’s pre season but 6.5 for Nsiala is certainly ‘friendly’. Thought he was shocking, as were Town for most of it. However, we were as decent against the Leicester’s etc as we were poor today, so how can we possibly determine what we’ll be based on these games? You never really can, besides the odd exception.
Roll on the real stuff.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 3, 2024 19:32:45 GMT 1
Keeper goves me zero confidence.
All 3 available centre back are like fish up tree with the ball at their feet - either punt in in true Marosi fashion are play hospital balls to the central m/f players, inviting them to get clattered.
Generally we seem to have forgot playing along the deck, almost everything was airborne.
Marquis doesn’t look suited to the one up front role neither did JJ.
Not looking promising for Stevenage!
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 19:35:36 GMT 1
I'm a bit more concerned at the other end with the goalkeepers. Savins injury record and the other guy doesn't have a league appearance. Wishful thinking that one of the loan spots is for a Goalkeeper. only made 4 of the friendlies but I have to say I think our GK coach isn't up to the job, the way he warms up the keepers is nothing short of a shambles and embarrassing to watch, and occasionally he'll jump (limp/stagger) out of the dug out and make a meaningless gesture that is clearly for show to the rest of the bench and nothing else , I honestly think I could do a better job myself |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 19:41:38 GMT 1
Replacing Marosi regardless of his wages and kicking could be quite a task, Savin no doubt has ability given Man Utd were after him but I just wonder over the course of the season whether an experienced keeper between the sticks is whats needed.
Will see I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 19:43:48 GMT 1
Also a little concerned about potential holes in the squad.
If Hoole goes down injured for a lengthy stretch who's replacing him? Feeney, Winchester, this other Feeney?
Shipley too wide left and Big John Marquis - though I'm guessing Kayode is to cover there?
There could be an abundance of midfielders - especially if the two trialists sign, that's not a bad thing, they may have to be shifted around the formation.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 3, 2024 19:50:32 GMT 1
Said after the derby game,Savin was very tentative.... there's not much to choose between him and young......infact Young's kicking is better....I agree with pilch...that the goal keeping coach is not up to it...and I've thought that for a number of yrs
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Post by barrynic on Aug 3, 2024 19:52:02 GMT 1
I'm a bit more concerned at the other end with the goalkeepers. Savins injury record and the other guy doesn't have a league appearance. Wishful thinking that one of the loan spots is for a Goalkeeper. only made 4 of the friendlies but I have to say I think our GK coach isn't up to the job, the way he warms up the keepers is nothing short of a shambles and embarrassing to watch, and occasionally he'll jump (limp/stagger) out of the dug out and make a meaningless gesture that is clearly for show to the rest of the bench and nothing else , I honestly think I could do a better job myself As you have not seen the goalkeeping coach on the training ground and seen him working in the classroom with the keepers that is an odd comment. |
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Post by vladimir on Aug 3, 2024 19:54:10 GMT 1
I'm a bit more concerned at the other end with the goalkeepers. Savins injury record and the other guy doesn't have a league appearance. Wishful thinking that one of the loan spots is for a Goalkeeper. only made 4 of the friendlies but I have to say I think our GK coach isn't up to the job, the way he warms up the keepers is nothing short of a shambles and embarrassing to watch, and occasionally he'll jump (limp/stagger) out of the dug out and make a meaningless gesture that is clearly for show to the rest of the bench and nothing else , I honestly think I could do a better job myself I implore you to say this to his face. |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 20:05:33 GMT 1
only made 4 of the friendlies but I have to say I think our GK coach isn't up to the job, the way he warms up the keepers is nothing short of a shambles and embarrassing to watch, and occasionally he'll jump (limp/stagger) out of the dug out and make a meaningless gesture that is clearly for show to the rest of the bench and nothing else , I honestly think I could do a better job myself I implore you to say this to his face. what relevance is that to this debate ? |
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Aug 3, 2024 20:16:16 GMT 1
Keeper goves me zero confidence. All 3 available centre back are like fish up tree with the ball at their feet - either punt in in true Marosi fashion are play hospital balls to the central m/f players, inviting them to get clattered. Generally we seem to have forgot playing along the deck, almost everything was airborne. Marquis doesn’t look suited to the one up front role neither did JJ. Not looking promising for Stevenage! Yeah big concern of mine - seen most the friendlies. Appear to be looking to play out from the back but Feeney, Pierre & Nsiala all aren’t ball playing CB’s and will get found out |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 20:20:24 GMT 1
I might be an old fashioned git and an ex non-ball playing full back, but it makes me shudder seeing the keeper and the back four playing the ball across the box.
I'm either young enough or old enough to remember the Jesper Olsen incident in the World Cup.
What's wrong with smashing it up field.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 20:34:11 GMT 1
only made 4 of the friendlies but I have to say I think our GK coach isn't up to the job, the way he warms up the keepers is nothing short of a shambles and embarrassing to watch, and occasionally he'll jump (limp/stagger) out of the dug out and make a meaningless gesture that is clearly for show to the rest of the bench and nothing else , I honestly think I could do a better job myself As you have not seen the goalkeeping coach on the training ground and seen him working in the classroom with the keepers that is an odd comment. I was on about warming up the keepers, what I witnessed in the early friendlies was the keepers getting swapped at half time, and during half time the warm up consisted of the subbed keeper starting off with gentle crosses for the oncoming keeper, each cross followed by Brian on the edge of the box waiting for the keeper to be ready and then drop kicking him a gentle shot, in between the new keeper had to wait for both to retrieve the balls and get back into their positions, the departing keeper was ambling across towards the corner like tom Bayliss used to to take a corner, this was then followed up with the subbed keeper taking pot shots, several of which flew over the bar into the south stand, and then Brian would finish with a shot or 2 himself inevitably followed by a painful looking limp , we could have replaced the keeper coming on with an 8 year old and he would probably also have been bored, now bearing in mind this is the bit we get to see I dread to think what we dont |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 20:49:09 GMT 1
I might be an old fashioned git and an ex non-ball playing full back, but it makes me shudder seeing the keeper and the back four playing the ball across the box. I'm either young enough or old enough to remember the Jesper Olsen incident in the World Cup. What's wrong with smashing it up field. its because we dont have the quality up field to win the ball, this is why the likes of marosi always had to aim for the t junction between halfway line and touch line, that led to 3 outcomes, we managed to get to it first and head it further down the line, the opposition heads it usually into touch, its goes out for a throw, bear in mind the likes of Man U were doing this last season in games against the likes of Liverpool its not just a town thing, I'm all for passing it from the back, considering we have 4 at the back and the opposition usually have 2 up top it will work if performed correctly |
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Post by darkshrew on Aug 3, 2024 21:46:13 GMT 1
Well that dented my confidence about the Stevenage game.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2024 21:51:26 GMT 1
Also a little concerned about potential holes in the squad. If Hoole goes down injured for a lengthy stretch who's replacing him? Feeney, Winchester, this other Feeney? Shipley too wide left and Big John Marquis - though I'm guessing Kayode is to cover there? There could be an abundance of midfielders - especially if the two trialists sign, that's not a bad thing, they may have to be shifted around the formation. we still have loans , most seasons that involves 2 or 3 arriving on deadline day at the end of august |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2024 22:15:41 GMT 1
Mellon has got a strong, physical side who bullied us all over the park. They were so much more organised than us. They won most 1st and 2nd balls, and looked fairly comfortable. We were very much second best when it came to the physicality, but they did have some big units for sure. |
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Post by loudblokefromblock3 on Aug 3, 2024 23:42:53 GMT 1
The preseason is irrelevant, I never bother with it. The first game isn’t the season but I want us to show we can compete in the first 10 games so we can build on that starting next week.
Nolan on trial is a concern for me, at his peak he was a 15 minute cameo player who caught the eye (I know others rated him very highly but his work rate for me wasn’t enough first time around). I’m hoping this is PH looking after a loyal former player and he is not a signing option. We need to compete for 90 minutes in every game I suspect this season as it looks very tough so work rate will be critical.
The goalkeeping position is a concern, critically is Savin fit enough to fulfil his potential? We have done well over the last few years goalkeeper wise aside from kicking so hopefully the warm up concern is misplaced. Stability at the back will be key - it always is.
As always I go into the season with a little hope, Hurst should make us competitive.
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