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Post by darkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 8:50:59 GMT 1
Compare his website (https://www.daniel4shrewsbury.co.uk/) to that of Helen Morgan (https://www.helenmorgan.org.uk/).
Personally I think that it shows the difference between a lazy party sycophant and a really good local MP. Aside from his indifference on ethical and local matters - look at his questions on agriculture.
Take a trip outside his website to look at his disciplinary record and also his voting record - I challenge anybody to hand on heart say that he represents their values.
I can understand that many will blindly vote for anybody their party puts up, but what I cannot understand is anybody actually voting for Kawcynski as a candidate. Tory members have actually done that - can they just not be arsed to look for a new candidate or do they actually think that he adds something positive ?
I really hope that the Tory faithful in Shrewsbury wake up and realise what a waste of space Kawcynski is, and can also see what a difference a good local MP could make for the town.
Personally I think that Julia Buckley is the best way forward for Shrewsbury from the candidates on offer, but I think I'd just be happier with anyone other than Danny K.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 9, 2024 17:59:27 GMT 1
I was down in the south of the county today and didn't see a single sign for Labour or Conservative. I did however see at least a dozen LibDem signs in people's gardens. Hopefully they are really going for it down there as well as in the north and the whole county can turn red and yellow. Zero Tory MPs in Shropshire, the epitome of middle England would be a massive blow to the party.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 18:50:10 GMT 1
I was down in the south of the county today and didn't see a single sign for Labour or Conservative. I did however see at least a dozen LibDem signs in people's gardens. Hopefully they are really going for it down there as well as in the north and the whole county can turn red and yellow. Zero Tory MPs in Shropshire, the epitome of middle England would be a massive blow to the party. That's good news - I hope Matt gets in for South Shropshire. I wish the Lib Dems and Labour would split the county between them - I have an awful feeling that we will be close to exiting the Tories completely from Shropshire but just fall short. Sadly I can see Shrewsbury and South Shropshire staying Conservative with Lib Dem and Labour both close but just behind. The ones that vote tend to be OAPs and they tend to vote for who they always have regardless of the numpty put forward; the 'youth' don't seem to register to vote, and those in the working 25-35 range seem to have no interest or claim to have no time. I had to register my eldest because he had no idea that he had to - he assumed that it would be automatic - none of his mates have registered; none at all, that is about 30 votes gone.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 9, 2024 19:20:28 GMT 1
I was down in the south of the county today and didn't see a single sign for Labour or Conservative. I did however see at least a dozen LibDem signs in people's gardens. Hopefully they are really going for it down there as well as in the north and the whole county can turn red and yellow. Zero Tory MPs in Shropshire, the epitome of middle England would be a massive blow to the party. That's good news - I hope Matt gets in for South Shropshire. I wish the Lib Dems and Labour would split the county between them - I have an awful feeling that we will be close to exiting the Tories completely from Shropshire but just fall short. Sadly I can see Shrewsbury and South Shropshire staying Conservative with Lib Dem and Labour both close but just behind. The ones that vote tend to be OAPs and they tend to vote for who they always have regardless of the numpty put forward; the 'youth' don't seem to register to vote, and those in the working 25-35 range seem to have no interest or claim to have no time. I had to register my eldest because he had no idea that he had to - he assumed that it would be automatic - none of his mates have registered; none at all, that is about 30 votes gone. I have always encouraged my kids to vote. My one daughter has worked on her husband and turned him towards Labour, My sons girlfriend has turned him too, to my shame he actually voted Tory or didn't bother at all. My other kids are all Labour voters too, so I haven't been a total failure as a parent.
Unfortunately my sister in law and mother in law are voting Reform, which is actually fine as those are votes not going to the Tories.
Much to my annoyance my parents voted Tory last time, to 'get Brexit done'. Unfortunately now that Brexit is done they can't go off caravanning to Spain for 4 months at a time. Shame.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 20:10:19 GMT 1
Does anybody know anything about Victor Applegate - the reform candidate ? Will be interesting to see how they do here.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 9, 2024 20:17:41 GMT 1
My eldest will vote Labour - have confidence he is going the same way as me and my dad before me.
My wife, I'm ashamed to say, would vote Tory if she ever voted. I've shown her Danny Boys voting record on the environment and also the disciplinary record - she says that she would still vote Tory. So we will forget to tell her when we are going to the polling station and there is no way that she will be arsed to go on her own.
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 9, 2024 20:25:51 GMT 1
My eldest will vote Labour - have confidence he is going the same way as me and my dad before me. My wife, I'm ashamed to say, would vote Tory if she ever voted. I've shown her Danny Boys voting record on the environment and also the disciplinary record - she says that she would still vote Tory. So we will forget to tell her when we are going to the polling station and there is no way that she will be arsed to go on her own. Just apply for a postal vote for her and throw it in the bin.
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 9, 2024 21:05:42 GMT 1
My eldest will vote Labour - have confidence he is going the same way as me and my dad before me. My wife, I'm ashamed to say, would vote Tory if she ever voted. I've shown her Danny Boys voting record on the environment and also the disciplinary record - she says that she would still vote Tory. So we will forget to tell her when we are going to the polling station and there is no way that she will be arsed to go on her own. Just apply for a postal vote for her and throw it in the bin. How very democratic…
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Post by rob62 on Jun 9, 2024 22:01:52 GMT 1
I think Sunaks decision to leave the D Day event early will have done him damage in the key Tory demographic of 65+
But I fully agree with your general point about tactical voting, I remain of the opinion that the only safe Tory seat in the County is The Wrekin
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 10, 2024 8:52:19 GMT 1
I think Sunaks decision to leave the D Day event early will have done him damage in the key Tory demographic of 65+ But I fully agree with your general point about tactical voting, I remain of the opinion that the only safe Tory seat in the County is The Wrekin Pritchard's wikipedia page highlights why he is nearly as contemptable a human being as Kawcynski is. I can just not understand how the local Tory party members can actively choose people like that as candidates.
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Post by mattmw on Jun 10, 2024 13:04:18 GMT 1
I think Sunaks decision to leave the D Day event early will have done him damage in the key Tory demographic of 65+ But I fully agree with your general point about tactical voting, I remain of the opinion that the only safe Tory seat in the County is The Wrekin Pritchard's wikipedia page highlights why he is nearly as contemptable a human being as Kawcynski is. I can just not understand how the local Tory party members can actively choose people like that as candidates. I’m led to believe that generally where there was a sitting Conservative MP in the constituency the local members were heavily leaned on to return again, so don’t think local party members themselves were overly happy with what’s happened. It’s perhaps reflected in the relative lack of Conservative leaflets and posters in Shropshire as its local members that normally put those out. They probably won’t actively undermine the chosen candidate but they don’t appear to be putting their full weight behind candidates as they used to
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 10, 2024 14:27:41 GMT 1
As there seems to be some political activity going on at the moment I thought I’d have one of my very occasional looks at this board.
Yesterday I was shown one of those constituency by constituency polls and it shows Shrewsbury as a Labour win. The margin is narrow though, 5% from memory.
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Post by rob62 on Jun 10, 2024 15:28:39 GMT 1
I sure local Tory activists are very disillusioned and demotivated. How can they put a credible case forward to defend the Tories record in power or sing the virtues of the local MP.
While we live in a digital age, one should not underestimate the power of the candidate/ activists knocking on doors.
Clearly the Lib Dems are very active in North Shropshire and I would be very surprised if they don't beat the Tories
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Post by armchairfan on Jun 10, 2024 16:31:34 GMT 1
Still waiting for Ms Buckley to knock on my door...
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 10, 2024 20:12:54 GMT 1
Still waiting for Ms Buckley to knock on my door... Do they still actually come around - I’ve seen them in the square and we get flyers in the letterbox, but haven’t had anybody on our doorstep since the 90s. They must get a lot of abuse if they do.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 11, 2024 11:34:06 GMT 1
I often catch up on Shropshire Council meetings on YouTube (very sad I know but at least I’m kept informed), and never been a great fan of Councillor Buckley in these. That said, I’ll be voting to oust DK and a vote for her seems the best way of achieving it.
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Post by armchairfan on Jun 11, 2024 17:27:41 GMT 1
Still waiting for Ms Buckley to knock on my door... Do they still actually come around - I’ve seen them in the square and we get flyers in the letterbox, but haven’t had anybody on our doorstep since the 90s. They must get a lot of abuse if they do. Regrettably, you may be right, so is it any wonder that the quality of candidates is viewed by some to be getting worse...who in their right mind would volunteer to be the target of abuse? It is an increasingly difficult task to manage a democratic system!
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Post by mattmw on Jun 11, 2024 19:24:59 GMT 1
There are a number of hustings events around Shrewsbury in the coming weeks to listen to the candidates and ask questions if anyone wants to avoid watching England in the Euros
Closest to me is Meole Church on 24th June
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jun 13, 2024 19:57:11 GMT 1
Pritchard's wikipedia page highlights why he is nearly as contemptable a human being as Kawcynski is. I can just not understand how the local Tory party members can actively choose people like that as candidates. I’m led to believe that generally where there was a sitting Conservative MP in the constituency the local members were heavily leaned on to return again, so don’t think local party members themselves were overly happy with what’s happened. It’s perhaps reflected in the relative lack of Conservative leaflets and posters in Shropshire as its local members that normally put those out. They probably won’t actively undermine the chosen candidate but they don’t appear to be putting their full weight behind candidates as they used to I suspect you’re right, if there’s a sitting MP the party won’t bother to nominate new candidates. I also suspect that there’s a dearth of decent new potential candidates from the Tories, given that over 70 sitting MPs are standing again. I think the Tories are in a dire position with no enthusiasm anywhere in the party, nor even in the Cabinet as far as I can see. Rishi is having to go it alone. Serves them right however.
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Post by kenwood on Jun 14, 2024 7:15:23 GMT 1
I see Mark Harper , the Transport Minister visited the town recently, no doubt to prop up Danny K’s faltering election campaign. He is reported as saying “ we have been clear we want to deliver the NWR project so with a Conservative government the NWR will be delivered.” Wonderful , Danny K must be thinking that’s a game changing statement which should see me returned as Shrewsbury’s MP . Is he right?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 15, 2024 10:09:22 GMT 1
A Reform candidate will take votes away from our useless Shrewsbury MP, i just hope its enough for labour to get in. so far only labour and the conservatives have turned up on my estate,
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Post by rob62 on Jun 15, 2024 10:28:21 GMT 1
The Lib Dems are focusing On North Shropshire and South Shropshire rather than Shrewsbury, and Labour are focusing their efforts on Shrewsbury and Telford.
I predict that only The Wrekin will return a Tory MP
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 15, 2024 11:43:22 GMT 1
The Lib Dems are focusing On North Shropshire and South Shropshire rather than Shrewsbury, and Labour are focusing their efforts on Shrewsbury and Telford. I predict that only The Wrekin will return a Tory MP Wrekin conservative candidate Mark Pritchard on Wikipedia: Pritchard earns £325 an hour as an advisor to Linden Energy holdings, an organisation which promotes the belief that climate change is inevitable and mitigation is pointless. Pritchard has several business interests outside politics, with commitments to some 44 hours of non-parliamentary duties each month. One of these commitments is working for a Macedonian arms manufacturer, the ATS Group. In November 2013, Pritchard was subject to a series of articles in The Daily Telegraph regarding revelations from undercover investigations that he had offered to use his political contacts to set up business deals with foreign officials and ministers in return for being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds. Following the revelations Pritchard referred himself to the Standards Commissioner, Kathryn Hudson, who subsequently announced that she would not investigate Pritchard, because there was "insufficient evidence", although the Daily Telegraph protested that the Commissioner has failed to contact the newspaper for its evidence. Pritchard maintained that he had not broken the Code of Conduct and that his business contacts were unconnected to his parliamentary work. In December 2014, he was arrested and later bailed over an allegation of rape.On 6 January 2015, the police inquiry was dropped on the basis that there was insufficient evidence for a case to proceed.
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Post by darkshrew on Jun 15, 2024 12:07:41 GMT 1
Mark Pritchard voted against allowing same sex couples to marry.
Mark Pritchard voted against cutting VAT from 20% to 17.5%
Mark Pritchard voted rejecting a climate change test for new oil and gas licences
Mark Pritchard voted no on Ban on Fracking for Shale Gas Bill
Mark Pritchard voted against requiring improved sewerage systems and against requiring a reduction in the harm caused by untreated sewage discharges.
Mark Pritchard voted not to require a target for particulate matter under 2.5 micrometres in diameter in the air to be set at a level of less ten micrograms per cubic meter, to be in-line with World Health Organisation guidelines
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 15, 2024 16:59:02 GMT 1
I see Mark Harper , the Transport Minister visited the town recently, no doubt to prop up Danny K’s faltering election campaign. He is reported as saying “ we have been clear we want to deliver the NWR project so with a Conservative government the NWR will be delivered.” Wonderful , Danny K must be thinking that’s a game changing statement which should see me returned as Shrewsbury’s MP . Is he right? What about Darwin’s Tree! Sap on his hands 🙌
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Post by kenwood on Jun 17, 2024 13:43:17 GMT 1
I see Mark Harper , the Transport Minister visited the town recently, no doubt to prop up Danny K’s faltering election campaign. He is reported as saying “ we have been clear we want to deliver the NWR project so with a Conservative government the NWR will be delivered.” Wonderful , Danny K must be thinking that’s a game changing statement which should see me returned as Shrewsbury’s MP . Is he right? What about Darwin’s Tree! Sap on his hands 🙌 Very good dc , very good indeed . I like it👍😂😂
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Post by kenwood on Jun 17, 2024 13:46:49 GMT 1
Still waiting for Ms Buckley to knock on my door... I’ve given your post serious consideration and think it may be due to the sign attached to your gate . 🫣😂😂
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Post by northwestman on Jun 17, 2024 13:58:54 GMT 1
The Lib Dems are focusing On North Shropshire and South Shropshire rather than Shrewsbury, and Labour are focusing their efforts on Shrewsbury and Telford. I predict that only The Wrekin will return a Tory MP Labour are marginally ahead with the bookies even there!
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Post by armchairfan on Jun 17, 2024 17:15:15 GMT 1
Still waiting for Ms Buckley to knock on my door... I’ve given your post serious consideration and think it may be due to the sign attached to your gate . 🫣😂😂 There aren't any signs on my gate, but I do have security guards posted at the entrance to my estate....🤣
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Post by rob62 on Jun 17, 2024 23:06:10 GMT 1
Agree that the Wrekin could be a close result. I travel widely across Shropshire for various reasons, and I haven't seen a single election poster in The Wrekin constituency area, which covers Wellington, Newport, Hodnet, Shifnal and Albrighton
Yet when I drive through North Shropshire it is full of Lib Dems orange posters... clearly Helen Morgan has a lot of support
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