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Post by Pilch on Jul 9, 2024 13:06:44 GMT 1
Don't worry, another thread will be hijacked to cover the same old ground very soon  Tactic 1 - deflection (did you know Cotterill used to manage us?) Tactic 2 - promote opinions as fact Tactic 3 - hijack We should be allowed to discuss concern at the ownership and a this far very unproductive summer, and be allowed to compare to other clubs that have had the investment we’ve missed out on. And people are of course entitled to disagree, but when the only argument is ‘I know things that you don’t’ it’s not the most persuasive counter view. Ironic to say all that on a thread created for censorship purposes |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 13:13:57 GMT 1
Tactic 1 - deflection (did you know Cotterill used to manage us?) Tactic 2 - promote opinions as fact Tactic 3 - hijack We should be allowed to discuss concern at the ownership and a this far very unproductive summer, and be allowed to compare to other clubs that have had the investment we’ve missed out on. And people are of course entitled to disagree, but when the only argument is ‘I know things that you don’t’ it’s not the most persuasive counter view. Tactic 4 Just takeover another thread as this one originally did.
The ECHR Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without (government) interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets. television or radio broadcasting.
It's good to have the protection of the ECHR, some wanted out of it you know.
Well this is certainly a first, having the Human Rights Act quoted at me! |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 9, 2024 13:22:00 GMT 1
Tactic 4 Just takeover another thread as this one originally did.
The ECHR Article 10 protects your right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without (government) interference. This includes the right to express your views aloud (for example through public protest and demonstrations) or through: published articles, books or leaflets. television or radio broadcasting.
It's good to have the protection of the ECHR, some wanted out of it you know.
Well this is certainly a first, having the Human Rights Act quoted at me! The principle applies to all those posting on here, even those accused of promoting opinions as facts. |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 9, 2024 13:38:12 GMT 1
Well this is certainly a first, having the Human Rights Act quoted at me! The principle applies to all those posting on here, even those accused of promoting opinions as facts. What about misattributing quotes? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 9, 2024 13:41:40 GMT 1
The principle applies to all those posting on here, even those accused of promoting opinions as facts. What about misattributing quotes? What about it? |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 9, 2024 15:09:10 GMT 1
What about misattributing quotes? What about it? ive never heard of her either  |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 9, 2024 15:15:04 GMT 1
There was another mention , it was from me before the were even rumoured to be at burton Of course it couldn't have been true , it came from the stfc I'll just keep stuff to myself from now on I think Maybe read my post properly next time, I said this is the only article that mentions it. If the club want fans to believe things that come from them then perhaps they should tell us themselves, rather than feeding bits to the odd fan the swedes gave him 24 hours to sign an exclusivity 12 month agreement just to talk with them, Roland said no as he was already speaking to 2 interested parties, ( he said they went after Burton instead then ) there you go April 25th , more than a week before it went public |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 16:21:40 GMT 1
Maybe read my post properly next time, I said this is the only article that mentions it. If the club want fans to believe things that come from them then perhaps they should tell us themselves, rather than feeding bits to the odd fan the swedes gave him 24 hours to sign an exclusivity 12 month agreement just to talk with them, Roland said no as he was already speaking to 2 interested parties, ( he said they went after Burton instead then ) there you go April 25th , more than a week before it went public Before what went public? |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 9, 2024 18:00:12 GMT 1
there you go April 25th , more than a week before it went public Before what went public? jeez this is hard work, I did read your post, here it is you claimed that article dated June 3rd was the only one youve seen that connected us to the swedes that bought Burton I just dropped into the conversation that I mentioned it on 27th April, a week before they bought the club |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2024 20:19:26 GMT 1
Any news of what happened to the two other interested parties? Are there currently any interested parties talking to the club?
Think a lot of us are starting to feel pretty desperate!
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Post by Pilch on Jul 9, 2024 20:30:14 GMT 1
Any news of what happened to the two other interested parties? Are there currently any interested parties talking to the club? Think a lot of us are starting to feel pretty desperate! Were those the ones reported on here back in April to be finalising deals and taking over within a couple of weeks ? |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2024 6:19:07 GMT 1
Do think we ought to remove the anchor from this thread, comparisons either way are going to be made throughout the season.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2024 7:17:59 GMT 1
Do think we ought to remove the anchor from this thread, comparisons either way are going to be made throughout the season. Only when they win , but like what happening with cotterill |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2024 7:34:39 GMT 1
Do think we ought to remove the anchor from this thread, comparisons either way are going to be made throughout the season. but like what happening with cotterill I think this is different. But anyhow, comparisons are going to be made. Might as well remove the anchor here and use this thread for folk are looking to do so. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2024 7:43:22 GMT 1
but like what happening with cotterill I think this is different. But anyhow, comparisons are going to be made. Might as well remove the anchor here and use this thread for folk are looking to do so. What's the point until we can debate seriously , this thread starts off with you trying to say I can't have my opinion So far the gist of comparison has been , they have signed another player , oh what could have been cheap shots are ok it seems , serious opinions are moved into a separate thread with a warning attached that they might be fiction |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 10, 2024 8:00:36 GMT 1
I think this is different. But anyhow, comparisons are going to be made. Might as well remove the anchor here and use this thread for folk are looking to do so. What's the point until we can debate seriously , this thread starts off with you trying to say I can't have my opinion So far the gist of comparison has been , they have signed another player , oh what could have been cheap shots are ok it seems , serious opinions are moved into a separate thread with a warning attached that they might be fiction You voiced an opinion, I voiced mine. You are continuing to voice your opinion, as am I. So I don't see who, where and when someone has said you "can't have an opinion". And yes, comparisons will be made about the investment and signings made. That's a given. I don't quite understand why you take issue with this. If you are not interested, if this bores you and you don't deem it worth your time then simply ignore the topic.👍 I guess we can leave the anchor on but for sure another thread will come about. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2024 8:25:25 GMT 1
Let's hope it's a move civilised one then
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2024 9:13:15 GMT 1
You voiced an opinion, I voiced mine. You are continuing to voice your opinion, as am I. So I don't see who, where and when someone has said you "can't have an opinion". And yes, comparisons will be made about the investment and signings made. That's a given. I don't quite understand why you take issue with this. If you are not interested, if this bores you and you don't deem it worth your time then simply ignore the topic.👍 I guess we can leave the anchor on but for sure another thread will come about. It certainly seems bizarre to me that we have an anchor on one of the more active threads, if we look at the forum it's pretty much dead at the moment. I've got no doubt that some people will be bored by the same old debate but as you said, simply choose to ignore the thread. If this thread was getting personal or loads of insults were being thrown around then yeah either put the anchor on it or even lock it, but I haven't seen any of that (more than happy to be proven wrong on that) |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2024 12:59:08 GMT 1
You voiced an opinion, I voiced mine. You are continuing to voice your opinion, as am I. So I don't see who, where and when someone has said you "can't have an opinion". And yes, comparisons will be made about the investment and signings made. That's a given. I don't quite understand why you take issue with this. If you are not interested, if this bores you and you don't deem it worth your time then simply ignore the topic.👍 I guess we can leave the anchor on but for sure another thread will come about. It certainly seems bizarre to me that we have an anchor on one of the more active threads, if we look at the forum it's pretty much dead at the moment. I've got no doubt that some people will be bored by the same old debate but as you said, simply choose to ignore the thread. If this thread was getting personal or loads of insults were being thrown around then yeah either put the anchor on it or even lock it, but I haven't seen any of that (more than happy to be proven wrong on that) Apologies for the inconvenience of having to scroll 3 centimeters further down Like I said it's out of the faces of those who don't want to read snipes etc Truth is I've made a decision and the same few always want it overturned , same few , all liking each others posts Zzzzzzzz |
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2024 13:31:20 GMT 1
I think this is different. But anyhow, comparisons are going to be made. Might as well remove the anchor here and use this thread for folk are looking to do so. What's the point until we can debate seriously , this thread starts off with you trying to say I can't have my opinion So far the gist of comparison has been , they have signed another player , oh what could have been cheap shots are ok it seems , serious opinions are moved into a separate thread with a warning attached that they might be fiction Cobblers 🥾 |
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Post by dachshund on Jul 10, 2024 19:14:41 GMT 1
This is the death of this board. An active thread that people are actually interested in is killed because one person wants to take their ball home. Bleak.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2024 19:39:41 GMT 1
This is the death of this board. An active thread that people are actually interested in is killed because one person wants to take their ball home. Bleak. anyone else ( same few ) with an embarrassing grudge before I delete this sad thread blueandamber.proboards.com/user/342/recent |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 11, 2024 6:26:47 GMT 1
OK. So lets delete this thread and then we can start another and then we can request those who have no interest in the topic to refrain from contributing to it. Sound good...👍
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 11, 2024 9:00:38 GMT 1
OK. So lets delete this thread and then we can start another and then we can request those who have no interest in the topic to refrain from contributing to it. Sound good...👍 I will sort this now |
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