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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 8, 2024 13:56:35 GMT 1
New owners and new investment welcome. Surely some billionaire isn't going to quible about the odd couple of million if it gives Roland a fair price, if they really want us and really want the best for the club?
We might have a cashflow problem that is hopefully nearly resolved, but we also have assets such as owning our own ground.
Everyone wants new investment, but where are the people with the money. If you were rich, or could establish a consortium, what is the unique selling point for investing in Shrewsbury Town? We know Roland's, he's a fan, but, unless it's another fan, why would anyone else stick their money in to a football club?
That has quite literally just happened to Burton Albion. That’s the whole point. With respect, the whole point is that any deal for us didn't go through. Was that due to billionaires quibbling about a couple of £million? Was that due to Roland? Was that due to something else that put them off? We don't know, but, if there was an offer, the deal didn't go through. We continue to seek new investment or new owners. I'm sure the last thing Roland wants is to continue to have to stump up millions in interest free loans, probably never to be repaid, to keep the club afloat.
The deal didn't happen, no point in comparing us to Burton. Our search for investment or a buyer continues.
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 8, 2024 14:03:33 GMT 1
The club is absolutely knackered. A chairman not willing to sell unless he gets an unrealistic figure. Fact is whether we are league 1 or Northern Prem, he will still get his silver service lunch and treat the club as his own play toy. His legacy which until 2 years ago was still one of respect from 99% of fans is quickly diminishing. As for the rest of the off field management team they have been brought in to fleece the fans as much as possible from what I’ve seen on social media. He's committed legacy suicide amongst our fan base over the last few years sadly |
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 8, 2024 14:13:05 GMT 1
The club is absolutely knackered. A chairman not willing to sell unless he gets an unrealistic figure. Fact is whether we are league 1 or Northern Prem, he will still get his silver service lunch and treat the club as his own play toy. His legacy which until 2 years ago was still one of respect from 99% of fans is quickly diminishing. As for the rest of the off field management team they have been brought in to fleece the fans as much as possible from what I’ve seen on social media. He's committed legacy suicide amongst our fan base over the last few years sadly I'll judge his legacy in a few years. Snap social media judgements are based on guess work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 14:15:53 GMT 1
Just over 12 months ago, our chairman signed off his message by saying " Please do not be concerned about our club’s future, it is safe and secure" but the owners of Burton Albion are apparently worried about the financial situation. Who should I believe? wow let's visit that out of date statement for the 8th millionth time and read into it like a horoscope There was a lot more discovered re finances after that statement was released Ok, so the last communication from our chairman to the fans which assured us there was nothing to worry about should now be considered out of date as things have got worse since then? That's good to know, thanks for clearing it up. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 14:25:00 GMT 1
wow let's visit that out of date statement for the 8th millionth time and read into it like a horoscope There was a lot more discovered re finances after that statement was released Ok, so the last communication from our chairman to the fans which assured us there was nothing to worry about should now be considered out of date as things have got worse since then? That's good to know, thanks for clearing it up. thats an opinion, seems its no allowed on this forum any more ( unless its anti town, I dont mind saying that because its true, you get censored or taken to one side now for being positive and honest on here )
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Post by vladimir on Jul 8, 2024 14:28:11 GMT 1
That has quite literally just happened to Burton Albion. That’s the whole point. With respect, the whole point is that any deal for us didn't go through. Was that due to billionaires quibbling about a couple of £million? Was that due to Roland? Was that due to something else that put them off? We don't know, but, if there was an offer, the deal didn't go through. We continue to seek new investment or new owners. I'm sure the last thing Roland wants is to continue to have to stump up millions in interest free loans, probably never to be repaid, to keep the club afloat.
The deal didn't happen, no point in comparing us to Burton. Our search for investment or a buyer continues.
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Post by shrewswolf on Jul 8, 2024 14:35:16 GMT 1
That has quite literally just happened to Burton Albion. That’s the whole point. With respect, the whole point is that any deal for us didn't go through. Was that due to billionaires quibbling about a couple of £million? Was that due to Roland? Was that due to something else that put them off? We don't know, but, if there was an offer, the deal didn't go through. We continue to seek new investment or new owners. I'm sure the last thing Roland wants is to continue to have to stump up millions in interest free loans, probably never to be repaid, to keep the club afloat.
The deal didn't happen, no point in comparing us to Burton. Our search for investment or a buyer continues.
So we won’t compare ourselves to a similarly sized, locally owned football club who have investment from the very people who wanted to invest in us? OK. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 14:43:47 GMT 1
Ok, so the last communication from our chairman to the fans which assured us there was nothing to worry about should now be considered out of date as things have got worse since then? That's good to know, thanks for clearing it up. thats an opinion, seems its no allowed on this forum any more ( unless its anti town, I dont mind saying that because its true, you get censored or taken to one side now for being positive and honest on here )
where do you think we will be at the end of this season ? better or worse than when that statement was issued ?No one has said you can't have an opinion, I'd taken your comment of 'more things have been discovered since the statement' as fact which sounds like it wasn't, just that you believe more things have been discovered. As with most things, I guess we will never know. But anyway, to answer your question, if Roland doesn't sell up (which looks increasingly unlikely), I think on the field we will be worse off than 12 months ago and financially it will probably look worse but it will be on the road to trying to turn things around. The problem is for those of us who were around when Roland took over, whilst he did save us and turned things around, the late 90's and early 2000's were some bleak times. Back then it was all about survival until we get the new ground, this time around it's all about survival until we get a new owner |
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Post by Exkeeper on Jul 8, 2024 14:48:17 GMT 1
If we had been taken over by that group, I must admit that I would have been looking for better quality signings than the ones that they have made so far.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 8, 2024 14:49:24 GMT 1
What is the point of comparing us to any other club? We are a club seeking investment or a new owner, there is surely no doubt about that? We could just as easily be compared to another local club who changed ownership by embracing Hollywood "stars".  |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 14:58:36 GMT 1
thats an opinion, seems its no allowed on this forum any more ( unless its anti town, I dont mind saying that because its true, you get censored or taken to one side now for being positive and honest on here )
where do you think we will be at the end of this season ? better or worse than when that statement was issued ?No one has said you can't have an opinion, I'd taken your comment of 'more things have been discovered since the statement' as fact which sounds like it wasn't, just that you believe more things have been discovered. As with most things, I guess we will never know. But anyway, to answer your question, if Roland doesn't sell up (which looks increasingly unlikely), I think on the field we will be worse off than 12 months ago and financially it will probably look worse but it will be on the road to trying to turn things around. The problem is for those of us who were around when Roland took over, whilst he did save us and turned things around, the late 90's and early 2000's were some bleak times. Back then it was all about survival until we get the new ground, this time around it's all about survival until we get a new owner can we re-phrase that damn saying from now on ?, if Roland doesn't sell, can we instead say, if a genuine buyer doesn't come along, you make it sound like the club isn't for sale or we are turning down offers for the asking price, its common knowledge more financial irregularities /problems were discovered /come to light after that statement was made. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2024 15:00:54 GMT 1
What is the point of comparing us to any other club? You asked the question " Everyone wants new investment, but where are the people with the money", people are giving you an example of people with money buying a small football club (and one who finished below us last season). There are plenty of more examples if you want them, and whilst it may seem ridiculous to many, there are plenty of people out there who are willing to put in money into football clubs. But for some reason, Roland can't agree a deal with any of them |
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Post by shrewswolf on Jul 8, 2024 15:07:48 GMT 1
If we had been taken over by that group, I must admit that I would have been looking for better quality signings than the ones that they have made so far. They’ve signed one of League Two’s top goalscorers (one season wonder potentially, I agree), a couple of talented youngsters, a RWB that Swindon fans loved and a highly rated kid on loan amongst their many signings. Aren’t they having a cautious go at it? Isn’t that what we want? |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 8, 2024 15:08:29 GMT 1
the old Burton chairman has said about the new owners that they were worried about the financial situation at shrewsbury Where's this quote please? Shameless self bump. But please @pilch if you may provide the source of this quote? |
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 8, 2024 15:19:55 GMT 1
If we had been taken over by that group, I must admit that I would have been looking for better quality signings than the ones that they have made so far. They’ve signed one of League Two’s top goalscorers (one season wonder potentially, I agree), a couple of talented youngsters, a RWB that Swindon fans loved and a highly rated kid on loan amongst their many signings. Aren’t they having a cautious go at it? Isn’t that what we want? Yep. If they'd be throwing money about no doubt some would be claiming they are setting the club up for an almighty fall. Whether this is up to date I have no idea, just grabbed it from a random website... Burton In: Elliot Watt (Salford, free), Geraldo Bajrami (Notts County, free), Tomas Kalinauskas (Den Bosch, free) Jason Sraha (Shrewsbury, undisclosed), Ben Whitfield (Barrow, free), Charlie Webster (Chelsea, undisclosed), Julian Larsson (Nottingham Forest, undisclosed), Alex Banon (Queen's Parkm undisclosed), Rumarn Burrell (Cove Rangers, free), Danilo Orsi (Crawley, undisclosed), Dylan Williams (Chelsea, loan)Town In: In: Toto Nsiala (Shrewsbury, free), George Lloyd (Cheltenham, free), Harrison Biggins (Doncaster, free), Toby Savin (Accrington, free)It'll be interesting to see if we get around to paying a transfer fee this summer. |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 15:27:05 GMT 1
Where's this quote please? Shameless self bump. But please @pilch if you may provide the source of this quote? spam all you like, rules dont count for most on here I've given up being the only one who ever gets asked to produce evidence on here have fun |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 8, 2024 15:29:18 GMT 1
Shameless self bump. But please @pilch if you may provide the source of this quote? spam all you like, rules dont count for most on here I've given up being the only one who ever gets asked to produce evidence on here have fun That's a no then lol. All you had to do was post the link to this "interview" . |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 15:32:17 GMT 1
spam all you like, rules dont count for most on here I've given up being the only one who ever gets asked to produce evidence on here have fun That's a no then lol. All you had to do was post the link to this "interview" . it not a no at all, its just no to you, mr anonymous |
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Post by vladimir on Jul 8, 2024 15:41:26 GMT 1
If we had been taken over by that group, I must admit that I would have been looking for better quality signings than the ones that they have made so far. They’ve signed one of League Two’s top goalscorers (one season wonder potentially, I agree), a couple of talented youngsters, a RWB that Swindon fans loved and a highly rated kid on loan amongst their many signings. Aren’t they having a cautious go at it? Isn’t that what we want? Billy bodin now as well. |
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 8, 2024 16:18:38 GMT 1
Are people really criticising Burton’s signings? They’ve signed 12 players including a couple of youngsters from Chelsea and Orsi from Crawley.
Ours look terrible. A few free transfers from League Two clubs, including a striker who scored 2 in 29 last season.
The most exciting rumour going round is that Nolan is re-signing, after being released by a side in the seventh tier.
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 8, 2024 16:21:06 GMT 1
Are people really criticising Burton’s signings? They’ve signed 12 players including a couple of youngsters from Chelsea and Orsi from Crawley. Ours look terrible. A few free transfers from League Two clubs, including a striker who scored 2 in 29 last season. The most exciting rumour going round is that Nolan is re-signing, after being released by a side in the seventh tier. Exactly, the feel good factor you see online around Burton is absolute worlds apart from the desperation, depression and downright apathy most of us feel about our club currently - the fact that opportunity was let slip through the net is unforgiveable imo |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 16:46:27 GMT 1
Are people really criticising Burton’s signings? They’ve signed 12 players including a couple of youngsters from Chelsea and Orsi from Crawley. Ours look terrible. A few free transfers from League Two clubs, including a striker who scored 2 in 29 last season. The most exciting rumour going round is that Nolan is re-signing, after being released by a side in the seventh tier. Exactly, the feel good factor you see online around Burton is absolute worlds apart from the desperation, depression and downright apathy most of us feel about our club currently - the fact that opportunity was let slip through the net is unforgiveable imo you can get there slightly quicker if you use the toll road cya |
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 8, 2024 16:56:41 GMT 1
Exactly, the feel good factor you see online around Burton is absolute worlds apart from the desperation, depression and downright apathy most of us feel about our club currently - the fact that opportunity was let slip through the net is unforgiveable imo you can get there slightly quicker if you use the toll road cya I'll take the bait rather than ignore for a change as that is a desperately poor and unnecessary post that should be moved to Off Topic... I and others have explained many times how much money we gifted (yes gifted) the club during Covid, and how much of our hard earnt we have paid to renew Season Tickets out of blind loyalty yet again, we love the club and we have a right to be concerned and voice that concern about the total mess the Chairman is now making of it. He did great for this club for over 2 decades, he's ruining his legacy now in spectacular fashion, and every signing Burton make is another Bully's special prize moment "here's what you could have won". Desperate times, and i fully expect if we get off to a bad start, things will turn very sour at home games (I hope this doesn't happen before you play that predictable card next) |
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Post by gtismygod on Jul 8, 2024 17:04:51 GMT 1
you can get there slightly quicker if you use the toll road cya I'll take the bait rather than ignore for a change as that is a desperately poor and unnecessary post that should be moved to Off Topic... I and others have explained many times how much money we gifted (yes gifted) the club during Covid, and how much of our hard earnt we have paid to renew Season Tickets out of blind loyalty yet again, we love the club and we have a right to be concerned and voice that concern about the total mess the Chairman is now making of it. He did great for this club for over 2 decades, he's ruining his legacy now in spectacular fashion, and every signing Burton make is another Bully's special prize moment "here's what you could have won". Desperate times, and i fully expect if we get off to a bad start, things will turn very sour at home games (I hope this doesn't happen before you play that predictable card next) I don’t think anyone can disagree with any of that to be honest. If he’d have sold up this summer then I think the majority of the fan base would have thanked him for all that he’s done for the club and wished him all the best. But we’re heading past the point of no return now, heading into what’s probably the strongest League One ever with a tiny squad of bargain basement freebies. |
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Post by belfastshrew on Jul 8, 2024 17:29:32 GMT 1
The whole swedish consortium thing is past history now. Pointless debating 'what ifs'. We look forward, in the direction of a new season and a new ownership.
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Post by venceremos on Jul 8, 2024 17:43:25 GMT 1
The whole swedish consortium thing is past history now. Pointless debating 'what ifs'. We look forward, in the direction of a new season and a new ownership. Hmm, well a new season anyway. And I wouldn't say it was something I'm looking forward to .....  |
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2024 17:44:44 GMT 1
The whole swedish consortium thing is past history now. Pointless debating 'what ifs'. We look forward, in the direction of a new season and a new ownership. exactly gone for a Burton  lets cry like a spoilt brat for ever  |
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Post by belfastshrew on Jul 8, 2024 17:48:27 GMT 1
The whole swedish consortium thing is past history now. Pointless debating 'what ifs'. We look forward, in the direction of a new season and a new ownership. Hmm, well a new season anyway. And I wouldn't say it was something I'm looking forward to ..... Yes well...I meant look forward as in look to the future 🤣 |
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Post by venceremos on Jul 8, 2024 18:10:08 GMT 1
Hmm, well a new season anyway. And I wouldn't say it was something I'm looking forward to ..... Yes well...I meant look forward as in look to the future 🤣 It's coming, and it can't be avoided! |
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Jul 8, 2024 18:21:35 GMT 1
If they wanted a twelve month exclusivity clause with Shrewsbury how were they able to buy Burton fairly quickly?
Isn't it standard to have some sort of fixed term in order to look at the books and check everything is ok?
If they walked away because they were worried about Shrewsbury's finances that sounds like they were concerned not about the exact position but rather the processes that allowed that position to happen. Or they found the gaps themselves.
It'll be an interesting ride comparing ourselves with them over the next twelve months. I don't think the comparison is going to go away however the whole thing goes.
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