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Post by martinshrew on Mar 21, 2024 17:19:21 GMT 1
"We've been absolutely starved of excitement, other than the odd well executed plan under Cotts since Hurst left the first time round!"
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Post by Pilch on Mar 21, 2024 17:26:13 GMT 1
actually yes, going back to the end of 2023, we did only manage 4 lots of 3-2 wins in the space of 8 games, boring boring shrewsbury ;-)
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 21, 2024 17:59:03 GMT 1
Oh Christ...... we'd better get Taylor back then😳😳😲😮
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Post by gobowenshrew on Mar 21, 2024 21:23:46 GMT 1
Town are the only team not to have a sub score a goal this season out of the entire 92. Ipswich have had 21! And we have made 142 subs which is actually above average. Fair play that's a cracking state. Makes awful reading mind you, but cracking none the less.
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Mar 22, 2024 10:19:58 GMT 1
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 22, 2024 10:19:58 GMT 1
Another interesting stat here which shows how we have been starved of excitement for a while. It's amazing that fans have stayed so loyal to the club during this period really
Even more worrying is 2 of the clubs are us & Grimsby where Hurst has been for the majority of the 10 years 😁
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 22, 2024 10:35:42 GMT 1
Another interesting stat here which shows how we have been starved of excitement for a while. It's amazing that fans have stayed so loyal to the club during this period really Even more worrying is 2 of the clubs are us & Grimsby where Hurst has been for the majority of the 10 years 😁 To be fair even when we were going well under Hurst a few years ago we werent prolific goalscorers, just had a damn good defence.
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 22, 2024 11:14:42 GMT 1
And a very good away record too👍😉
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Mar 22, 2024 11:15:51 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 22, 2024 11:15:51 GMT 1
And a very good away record too👍😉 Used to love those away days, great times!
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 22, 2024 18:42:34 GMT 1
And the away record isn't to shabby now either!!!👍😃
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Mar 22, 2024 18:45:53 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 22, 2024 18:45:53 GMT 1
And the away record isn't to shabby now either!!!👍😃 Let's hope it continues over the last 4 away games, though with Bolton and Pompey trips to come you would expect it to be severely tested.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 22, 2024 19:12:10 GMT 1
Another interesting stat here which shows how we have been starved of excitement for a while. It's amazing that fans have stayed so loyal to the club during this period really Even more worrying is 2 of the clubs are us & Grimsby where Hurst has been for the majority of the 10 years 😁 10 years punching above our weight, and fans want more ;-)
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Mar 22, 2024 20:26:38 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 22, 2024 20:26:38 GMT 1
Well,can't see us beating Pompey or Bolton away....but I did say...target the Bristol away game,for the 3 pts,and one more home win,to get us up to 50.....should be enough then tbh
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 23, 2024 11:53:29 GMT 1
Another interesting stat here which shows how we have been starved of excitement for a while. It's amazing that fans have stayed so loyal to the club during this period really Even more worrying is 2 of the clubs are us & Grimsby where Hurst has been for the majority of the 10 years ] 10 years punching above our weight, and fans want more ;-) Really (on both counts)? I wouldn't say perennial relegation battlers in the third tier is punching about out weight. And as for wanting more, I hear very little demands from fans, we have a very passive fan base who don't demand to be challenging for promotion or anything like that.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 12:10:54 GMT 1
10 years punching above our weight, and fans want more ;-) Really (on both counts)? I wouldn't say perennial relegation battlers in the third tier is punching about out weight. And as for wanting more, I hear very little demands from fans, we have a very passive fan base who don't demand to be challenging for promotion or anything like that. the problem some of our more vocal fans are incredibly unrealistic and inconsistent
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Mar 23, 2024 12:28:18 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 12:28:18 GMT 1
10 years punching above our weight, and fans want more ;-) Really (on both counts)? I wouldn't say perennial relegation battlers in the third tier is punching about out weight. And as for wanting more, I hear very little demands from fans, we have a very passive fan base who don't demand to be challenging for promotion or anything like that. Quite right, the incumbent continues to peddle out mistruths about our fanbase as it suits his/the clubs agenda. The real truth is we have one of the most placid and sympathetic fanbases in the country as you've alluded to. After nearly a decade at this level, I would expect us to start becoming an established mid-table side who rarely talk of relegation. No talks of winning the league, promotion, play-offs, throwing money at it, bigger budgets, none of the lies that are thrown around; just simply a well drilled mid-table side looking to bring through some youths prospects and increase their off the field revenue streams.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 16:49:53 GMT 1
I rest my case
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 23, 2024 19:30:50 GMT 1
Really (on both counts)? I wouldn't say perennial relegation battlers in the third tier is punching about out weight. And as for wanting more, I hear very little demands from fans, we have a very passive fan base who don't demand to be challenging for promotion or anything like that. Quite right, the incumbent continues to peddle out mistruths about our fanbase as it suits his/the clubs agenda. The real truth is we have one of the most placid and sympathetic fanbases in the country as you've alluded to. After nearly a decade at this level, I would expect us to start becoming an established mid-table side who rarely talk of relegation. No talks of winning the league, promotion, play-offs, throwing money at it, bigger budgets, none of the lies that are thrown around; just simply a well drilled mid-table side looking to bring through some youths prospects and increase their off the field revenue streams. A well drilled mid table side sounds good to me, hopefully we are on our way to that!
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Mar 23, 2024 19:32:16 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 23, 2024 19:32:16 GMT 1
Quite right, the incumbent continues to peddle out mistruths about our fanbase as it suits his/the clubs agenda. The real truth is we have one of the most placid and sympathetic fanbases in the country as you've alluded to. After nearly a decade at this level, I would expect us to start becoming an established mid-table side who rarely talk of relegation. No talks of winning the league, promotion, play-offs, throwing money at it, bigger budgets, none of the lies that are thrown around; just simply a well drilled mid-table side looking to bring through some youths prospects and increase their off the field revenue streams. A well drilled mid table side sounds good to me, hopefully we are on our way to that! Fingers crossed, after a decade at this level and sticking 1,000+ on the gate it's hardly wild, excessive expectations to want to be secure in mid-table.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 23, 2024 19:43:22 GMT 1
each to their own some fans would accept mid table and total insecurity
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Post by ProudSalopian on Mar 24, 2024 12:01:08 GMT 1
Really (on both counts)? I wouldn't say perennial relegation battlers in the third tier is punching about out weight. And as for wanting more, I hear very little demands from fans, we have a very passive fan base who don't demand to be challenging for promotion or anything like that. the problem some of our more vocal fans are incredibly unrealistic and inconsistent What would you class as unrealistic?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 24, 2024 12:17:08 GMT 1
the problem some of our more vocal fans are incredibly unrealistic and inconsistent What would you class as unrealistic? for starters, this season was in my opinion , the most likely out of the 10 years in this division that we could go down we had cash levels that are alarming, the most imbalanced squad ever for an incoming manager to deal with so the fact 9 previous seasons in this division somehow guarantees you mid table is laughable really its dog eat dog in whatever league you are in these days your name of length of service means nothing, if fans think they have a right to accept certain levels then they need to open their eyes a little wider
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 28, 2024 16:57:37 GMT 1
How about Sobowale and Tulloch/Bloxham coming off the bench tomorrow and nailing this stat for good!
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Post by MartinB on Mar 30, 2024 20:13:04 GMT 1
How about Sobowale and Tulloch/Bloxham coming off the bench tomorrow and nailing this stat for good! You missed Jack Price off your list😉
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 23:59:22 GMT 1
How about Sobowale and Tulloch/Bloxham coming off the bench tomorrow and nailing this stat for good! You missed Jack Price off your list😉 someone now needs to give up a new stat that we are bottom of how about number of penalties scored this season ? we have none if im correct
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Mar 31, 2024 1:22:12 GMT 1
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 31, 2024 1:22:12 GMT 1
What would you class as unrealistic? for starters, this season was in my opinion , the most likely out of the 10 years in this division that we could go down we had cash levels that are alarming, the most imbalanced squad ever for an incoming manager to deal with so the fact 9 previous seasons in this division somehow guarantees you mid table is laughable really its dog eat dog in whatever league you are in these days your name of length of service means nothing, if fans think they have a right to accept certain levels then they need to open their eyes a little wider And in your opinion where does the fault lie that the club finds itself in this position?
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Mar 31, 2024 1:23:45 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Mar 31, 2024 1:23:45 GMT 1
for starters, this season was in my opinion , the most likely out of the 10 years in this division that we could go down we had cash levels that are alarming, the most imbalanced squad ever for an incoming manager to deal with so the fact 9 previous seasons in this division somehow guarantees you mid table is laughable really its dog eat dog in whatever league you are in these days your name of length of service means nothing, if fans think they have a right to accept certain levels then they need to open their eyes a little wider And in your opinion where does the fault lie that the club finds itself in this position? Jeez , leave me alone How about yours , it's your fault ok
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Mar 31, 2024 1:30:59 GMT 1
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 31, 2024 1:30:59 GMT 1
And in your opinion where does the fault lie that the club finds itself in this position? Jeez , leave me alone How about yours , it's your fault ok It’s a simple question, maybe not on your terms, but reasonable enough?
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Mar 31, 2024 7:05:03 GMT 1
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Post by secretshrew on Mar 31, 2024 7:05:03 GMT 1
Back to widening the pitch - are we at a point where we can’t afford to do such things? I’ve no idea how much it costs to do but sounds that might be an unnecessary luxury right now…?
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Post by MartinB on Mar 31, 2024 7:09:16 GMT 1
Jeez , leave me alone How about yours , it's your fault ok It’s a simple question, maybe not on your terms, but reasonable enough? I would say the fault lies with teams spending way over their income for years and years whilst a Club like ours have lived within their means. Hasn't been a level playing field since the Premier League started. Take our "friends" down the road, in their last 2 accounts they generated way more income than we could dream of yet are £9 million in debt. For me I would much rather have a sustainable club than one that racks up debt year after year and runs the risk of an owner that either gets bored, throws their toys out of the pram or makes a decision that means they no longer have the money to bankroll their play thing. I don't hear any of the supporters who want the Club to throw money at buying success calling for a £100+ increase in season ticket prices to fund the spending
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Mar 31, 2024 7:57:50 GMT 1
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Post by MartinB on Mar 31, 2024 7:57:50 GMT 1
And throwing money at a football club doesn't guarantee success, ask Colchester United fans. I think a very similar Club in demographics to us. Their season tickets and match day ticket prices higher than ours yet £32 million in debt with losses again this year of just under £3 million.
On the "paddy" field they have struggled to stay up for last few seasons. I said paddy field as that is what their pitch looks like.
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