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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 19, 2024 20:39:32 GMT 1
I would expect the accounts to be drawn up in the normal way with just sufficient information to satisfy HMRC. They will not be interested in 'missing money' increased spending or 'unauthorised expenditure. I think someone qualified will compare these accounts with the previous years and deduce those area of trading that have incurred increased spending. The club normally lump items together under one heading which doesn't tell you very much. It will be interesting if they choose to provide a breakdown of the headline figures this time around. They will be aware that fans want to know but against that may be a desire not to stir the pot again. Sometimes answering one question just leads to more Ant Thomas does that analysis every year... Yes he does but it is looked at by Roland that he is happy with the contents of the analysis first before Ant posts it.
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Post by vladimir on Mar 19, 2024 21:16:16 GMT 1
What's the plan with the academy then? Putting in a new training pitch? Or going with the facilities as is?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 19, 2024 21:43:58 GMT 1
Ant Thomas does that analysis every year... Yes he does but it is looked at by Roland that he is happy with the contents of the analysis first before Ant posts it. not another conspiracy theory its a public document that anyone can read, Ant just helps out to put it into layman's terms so the likes of you and I can understand it without creating a conspiracy
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Post by northwestman on Mar 19, 2024 21:52:08 GMT 1
I think we’re being prepared for some very bad and worrying financial figures. "For those supporters interested in the finances and the future, the 2023 accounts will be published in the coming weeks and will confirm the situation we are in right now". This is what I've been waiting for!
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 19, 2024 21:54:05 GMT 1
I think we’re being prepared for some very bad and worrying financial figures. "For those supporters interested in the finances and the future, the 2023 accounts will be published in the coming weeks and will confirm the situation we are in right now". This is what I've been waiting for! Yes the Ant Thomas analysis comes out , then they go to companies house by 31/3, the the AGM sometime in April.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 19, 2024 21:56:21 GMT 1
I think we’re being prepared for some very bad and worrying financial figures. "For those supporters interested in the finances and the future, the 2023 accounts will be published in the coming weeks and will confirm the situation we are in right now". This is what I've been waiting for! can I put a claim in for post of the year ? here goes 'the s**t is going to hit the fans'
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Post by Worthingshrew on Mar 19, 2024 22:15:01 GMT 1
We've had an update from the CEO, one is to follow from the Director of Football so perhaps we will get one from the Finance Director as well, to coincide with the publication of the annual accounts? We can hope 🤞 I've always said I'd have more sympathy with the club if they came out and were just open and honest as opposed to treating us as idiots who wouldn't understand or don't deserve to know, but want us to keep parting with season ticket money and not ask questions. If Caldwell looted us royally then either just come out with it, say you're in the middle of legal proceedings or say a line is drawn under it and we've moved on? Didn’t Roland say months ago, that everything would be made clear in due course? If there have been misappropriation of club funds, surely it will be in Roland’s interest to have this divulged so that fans know where the fault really lies?
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Post by suttonshrew on Mar 19, 2024 22:25:30 GMT 1
I have no doubt the accounts will show a significant loss, but the fact is the club have already moved on, addressed the situation and are regrouping.
New ceo, new financial team, a DOF and a manager who will work better with a smaller budget.
Whilst the headlines will look bad and panic will no doubt envelop the fan base we are already 12 months in from these figures
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Post by rickyspanish on Mar 22, 2024 9:21:39 GMT 1
So today is the day then. We should receive an official statement from Micky Moore.
I've got my Pitchfork at the ready!
#witchhunt
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 22, 2024 10:09:40 GMT 1
I'm quite looking forward to his update as I have no idea what he does day to day.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 22, 2024 10:33:25 GMT 1
I'm quite looking forward to his update as I have no idea what he does day to day. Yes we may actually find a few things out today hopefully.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 22, 2024 10:34:27 GMT 1
A loss of previously unheard of vastness is on the way
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Post by Pilch on Mar 22, 2024 11:24:48 GMT 1
So today is the day then. We should receive an official statement from Micky Moore. I've got my Pitchfork at the ready! #witchhunt never a truer word has been spoken on this site #dead man walking if the fans have it in for you then it doesn't matter what you do or say , they won't listen anyway
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 22, 2024 11:52:01 GMT 1
So today is the day then. We should receive an official statement from Micky Moore. I've got my Pitchfork at the ready! #witchhunt never a truer word has been spoken on this site #dead man walking if the fans have it in for you then it doesn't matter what you do or say , they won't listen anyway I'm ready
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 22, 2024 12:04:35 GMT 1
I'd love Moore to work out, a DOF is the sensible forward method. His track record of signings have been poor so far, but I'm not overly interested in that.
I want to know if he's implementing a footballing philosophy across the youth teams amongst other far more and important and long term aspects of his role. If Hurst is the man, and we're trying to plan long term then all the teams from under 12s upwards should be playing 4-2-3-1 with high fitness, high press and high intensity.
I'm excited for his statement.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 28, 2024 17:05:00 GMT 1
I'd love Moore to work out, a DOF is the sensible forward method. His track record of signings have been poor so far, but I'm not overly interested in that. I want to know if he's implementing a footballing philosophy across the youth teams amongst other far more and important and long term aspects of his role. If Hurst is the man, and we're trying to plan long term then all the teams from under 12s upwards should be playing 4-2-3-1 with high fitness, high press and high intensity. I'm excited for his statement. I'm curious did you get what you wanted from the statement?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 28, 2024 17:21:55 GMT 1
I'd love Moore to work out, a DOF is the sensible forward method. His track record of signings have been poor so far, but I'm not overly interested in that. I want to know if he's implementing a footballing philosophy across the youth teams amongst other far more and important and long term aspects of his role. If Hurst is the man, and we're trying to plan long term then all the teams from under 12s upwards should be playing 4-2-3-1 with high fitness, high press and high intensity. I'm excited for his statement. I'm curious did you get what you wanted from the statement? No. All I got was information about the first team? We all know what's going on with the first team, we watch every week, don't we? What about the academy, behind the scenes, footballing philosophy throughout the club, any other exciting new background work, the youth teams progress?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 28, 2024 17:22:46 GMT 1
So today is the day then. We should receive an official statement from Micky Moore. I've got my Pitchfork at the ready! #witchhunt never a truer word has been spoken on this site #dead man walking if the fans have it in for you then it doesn't matter what you do or say , they won't listen anyway I think the fans have been pretty patient and waited to see what the new players were like. Now we have it's not a pretty sight.
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Post by jamo on Mar 28, 2024 22:11:00 GMT 1
never a truer word has been spoken on this site #dead man walking if the fans have it in for you then it doesn't matter what you do or say , they won't listen anyway I think the fans have been pretty patient and waited to see what the new players were like. Now we have it's not a pretty sight. Plenty of fans- from all sections of the supporter base have been patient, objective and supportive for a long time. But that approach starts to wear somewhat thin when it is met with the same single reason for the club stagnating. Only those oblivious to what is happening in front of them, or have instructions to say otherwise, offer a differing viewpoint.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 0:24:09 GMT 1
its obvious to me there is no patience from some, never has been never will be
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 9:34:45 GMT 1
We post losses of £3m+, and since then we've spent fees on three players from Ireland, none of which are even troubling the match day squad.
Nobody is immune from criticism, and the recruitment in the first two windows appears poor. That's not a lack of patience, it's a dose of honesty.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 29, 2024 9:37:52 GMT 1
We post losses of £3m+, and since then we've spent fees on three players from Ireland, none of which are even troubling the match day squad. Nobody is immune from criticism, and the recruitment in the first two windows appears poor. That's not a lack of patience, it's a dose of honesty. Okay, but if we went hard sending on loan players who got injured and soft on permanent players who were less good, but stayed fit then it looks like exactly what you describe.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 9:43:35 GMT 1
We post losses of £3m+, and since then we've spent fees on three players from Ireland, none of which are even troubling the match day squad. Nobody is immune from criticism, and the recruitment in the first two windows appears poor. That's not a lack of patience, it's a dose of honesty. Okay, but if we went hard sending on loan players who got injured and soft on permanent players who were less good, but stayed fit then it looks like exactly what you describe. My worry is that we're approaching 12 months and Moore hasn't really managed to sign anyone for the starting lineup. Benning - Starting because Nurse is injured. Playing well mind. Feeney - A centre back at right back because we don't have a right back. The rest are Cotterill/pre-Cotterill signings: Marosi, Dunkley, Pierre, Winchester, Bloxham, Bayliss, Shipley, Udoh etc.
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 29, 2024 9:47:04 GMT 1
Okay, but if we went hard sending on loan players who got injured and soft on permanent players who were less good, but stayed fit then it looks like exactly what you describe. My worry is that we're approaching 12 months and Moore hasn't really managed to sign anyone for the starting lineup. Benning - Starting because Nurse is injured. Playing well mind. Feeney - A centre back at right back because we don't have a right back. The rest are Cotterill/pre-Cotterill signings: Marosi, Dunkley, Pierre, Winchester, Bloxham, Bayliss, Shipley, Udoh etc. Ah but approaching 12 months which I accept and having a free hand to recruit are two different things - we will only truly know what he can do if he makes it to September when the summer window closes. He will be free of the cost restrictions he has ben under. Tulloch? what is your take on him
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 13:51:09 GMT 1
why dont we just sign league one ready players who are free ?
never understood that ;-)
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 29, 2024 13:58:04 GMT 1
League one ready like the ones Mickey Mellon signed ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 29, 2024 14:25:14 GMT 1
why dont we just sign league one ready players who are free ? never understood that ;-) No ambition. Why don't we just sign Premier League players who have salted away a few million and just want to prove they can do it at league 1 level too?
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 15:51:24 GMT 1
My worry is that we're approaching 12 months and Moore hasn't really managed to sign anyone for the starting lineup. Benning - Starting because Nurse is injured. Playing well mind. Feeney - A centre back at right back because we don't have a right back. The rest are Cotterill/pre-Cotterill signings: Marosi, Dunkley, Pierre, Winchester, Bloxham, Bayliss, Shipley, Udoh etc. Ah but approaching 12 months which I accept and having a free hand to recruit are two different things - we will only truly know what he can do if he makes it to September when the summer window closes. He will be free of the cost restrictions he has ben under. Tulloch? what is your take on him He's played 45 minutes? Very difficult to have any take on him. What's your thoughts on Tulloch?
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Post by dibblydobbly on Mar 29, 2024 21:07:33 GMT 1
Ah but approaching 12 months which I accept and having a free hand to recruit are two different things - we will only truly know what he can do if he makes it to September when the summer window closes. He will be free of the cost restrictions he has ben under. Tulloch? what is your take on him He's played 45 minutes? Very difficult to have any take on him. What's your thoughts on Tulloch? As you say maybe too early to say, may be under the weather at present I suppose
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 30, 2024 9:34:11 GMT 1
In other light of the difficult financial news this update is even better reading.
Let's hope these continued initiatives increase the financial strength but in the case I'd the players reunion event it's not just the money, it's the sense of belonging about the whole thing that really wins people.
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