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Post by mrcricket on Feb 15, 2024 23:27:08 GMT 1
Kennah wasn't the complete player, he could tackle and win a ball back and had a decent (long) shot on him, which got him 1 goal in half a season. If he's already gone from Leeds to Hibs (and not made the grade) I do wonder.
Same with Anderson, he's not exactly got far with Sunderland. Compare him with someone like Feeney who was club captain at a promoted League Two side last season.
You sense that Hinchy will be pushing for a premier league start in the next year or two if he is already the U21 Captain. This is just a six month spell for him to bed him in to more regular and competitive game time.
Blend the Hinchy's of this world with canny operators like Winchester and Bennett and more marque guys like Marosi, Dunkley and Shipley and you have yourself a very good squad.
The whole composite under Taylor was badly put together, under Cotterill I sensed that things were finally coming together (and that is perhaps where the bitterness and fondness of SC continues).
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Post by dewsburyshrew on Feb 15, 2024 23:27:57 GMT 1
There are Leeds season ticket holders in my family. I understand that Leeds felt that Kenneth had potential but was not ready for first team selection. He begged to differ and more or less forced his transfer out. I think Hibs thought they were getting something special but soon found out that was not the case.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 16, 2024 0:44:37 GMT 1
There are Leeds season ticket holders in my family. I understand that Leeds felt that Kenneth had potential but was not ready for first team selection. He begged to differ and more or less forced his transfer out. I think Hibs thought they were getting something special but soon found out that was not the case. I think Paul Hurst and myself feel the same.
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Post by vladimir on Feb 16, 2024 10:00:01 GMT 1
Kenneh isn't fit enough for a Hurst team.
I imagine when he's got to the minimum standard of fitness Hurst expects then he might get a spot on the bench.
Hurst likes his midfielders to be able to play for 90 mins rather than 60.
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Post by chirkshrew on Feb 16, 2024 10:09:31 GMT 1
Exactly...... that's why Hurst had him running round the pitch before the Cambridge game....nailed on, he's not fit enough 👍
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 16, 2024 10:42:59 GMT 1
Exactly...... that's why Hurst had him running round the pitch before the Cambridge game....nailed on, he's not fit enough 👍 Most of them aren't.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2024 11:27:45 GMT 1
There's hints of that in the latest interview when he talks about them being too do more running and the frustration that can cause but ultimately they're doing it for themselves.
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Post by iestywfc on Feb 16, 2024 13:22:16 GMT 1
as perennial League One-ers, would you have concerns if you were to drop down to League Two?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2024 13:53:07 GMT 1
as perennial League One-ers, would you have concerns if you were to drop down to League Two? It us a long time to get out of it, then we yo-yo'd for a bit before settling in league one. I'd be concerned that any relegation can easily create a downward spiral and several teams have done a double drop.
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Post by shrewswolf on Feb 16, 2024 14:42:28 GMT 1
as perennial League One-ers, would you have concerns if you were to drop down to League Two? Yes, massively. At one point the way Roland had steered the ship you could have guaranteed a proper good go at it (by League Two standards) and but for some incredibly poor use of the resources, a playoff challenge at least with bookies immediately earmarking us as one of the favourites. Not now. The bank is apparently emptied and going down a level will only harm that further. The idea of League Two is frightening in our current state in my opinion. There’s some strong teams, attendances and budgets down there at the minute. If Wrexham’s budget isn’t enough to run away with the title, ours wouldn’t get us very far at all! No dig intended.
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Post by Scarecrow on Feb 16, 2024 14:56:18 GMT 1
After Taylor left let’s be honest, Moore’s power to recruit went out the door when Hurst stepped back in. We could have got Hinchy at the start of the window, he’s clearly one Hurst wanted.
For all the big talk at the start of the season and the supporters Parliament a few weeks back Moore brought no striker into this club while Taylor was in charge. That’s on him.
I still think Hurst has enough in the team to keep us up.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 16, 2024 15:00:38 GMT 1
as perennial League One-ers, would you have concerns if you were to drop down to League Two? It us a long time to get out of it, then we yo-yo'd for a bit before settling in league one. I'd be concerned that any relegation can easily create a downward spiral and several teams have done a double drop. League two isn't an easy league, and this is the worst league one I'd say for several years. Even with this squad I wouldn't be that confident that they would be able to bounce back. Only MK Dons look like they have a chance at the moment from last year's relegated sides. And of the sides promoted from League two last season only Carlisle look set to be troubled by relegation.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 16, 2024 15:11:49 GMT 1
as perennial League One-ers, would you have concerns if you were to drop down to League Two? Difficult to say. Our chairman wanted to get us back to the third tier and when we last dropped back into L2 he was keen to go straight back up so brought in Mellon and backed him financially (by our standards) However, now we aren't in a great position financially so on face value we should be worried because there would appear to be very little budget to have a go at coming straight back up and instead it would be about survival/consolidation. But such is unpredictability of our chairman and his desire to leave with a good legacy that if we were to relegated, it wouldn't surprise me if we actually spent money in trying to go straight back up
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 16, 2024 15:25:45 GMT 1
I believe his aims in 2008 were "Championship within a decade" ... I was there.
We've stagnated and wasted millions of pounds since Hurst.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 16, 2024 15:40:54 GMT 1
I believe his aims in 2008 were "Championship within a decade" ... I was there. We've stagnated and wasted millions of pounds since Hurst. Well, Hurst's back now.
And the Championship? That has some crazy wages going on. I know Leicester were recently in the Prem, but in the paper the other day it said that one of their players, who earns £50,000 a week, had been pulled up suspected drink driving. To get to the Championship we have to emulate Wigan, Wycombe and Peterbourough and hope we can cling on when we get there.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 16, 2024 15:45:57 GMT 1
The championship is not financially viable for us.
We're a middle sector league one club at best and can enjoy a few cup runs and giving the big boys a bloody nose when they come down to our level for a couple of seasons.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Feb 17, 2024 15:28:58 GMT 1
The championship is not financially viable for us. We're a middle sector league one club at best and can enjoy a few cup runs and giving the big boys a bloody nose when they come down to our level for a couple of seasons. even middle of league one might be pushing it. Attendance wise, looking across the whole of the EFL, town would just scrape into the league two play offs.
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Post by mrcricket on Feb 17, 2024 19:35:57 GMT 1
Its clear now that Hurst hasn't got the players he needs in this team, also most are not fit enough to play the tactics that he wants to. Picked off today.
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Post by suttonshrew on Feb 17, 2024 19:43:20 GMT 1
the summer and January windows have been poor for the club and certainly haven't helped either Taylor or Hurst. Its difficult to know if that's because the players we need haven't been available or if the club just hasn't got the finances currently to get them over the line. It feels very much like we are paying for the huge overspend last season.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 17, 2024 19:51:29 GMT 1
the summer and January windows have been poor for the club and certainly haven't helped either Taylor or Hurst. Its difficult to know if that's because the players we need haven't been available or if the club just hasn't got the finances currently to get them over the line. It feels very much like we are paying for the huge overspend last season. I’d say we’re also paying for appointing a head coach who was blatantly unsuitable for the job too. Regardless of funds as of course we’d all like more budget to bring in better players, this squad should not be 19th in such a poor league.
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