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Post by ssshrew on Feb 1, 2024 21:13:15 GMT 1
Heaven help us all. I presume she thinks she’s a ‘celebrity’.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 1, 2024 22:55:14 GMT 1
I’d rather buy 3 season tickets - & not at early bird prices - for another season of 5-3-2 and scoring once every other game than get a free ticket to see that vile spreader of hate and bile.
I hope there’s a power cut.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2024 11:15:03 GMT 1
Tempted to buy a ticket to see how much heckling I could get away with.....
I don't normally agree with smoke bombs, but they would improve this gig.
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Post by servernaside on Feb 2, 2024 14:52:05 GMT 1
I don't have much knowledge of Ms Hopkins, but I imagine from the comments above that her politics are somewhat to the right of those posting on this thread.
Anyway, well done everyone for publicising it.
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Post by jamo on Feb 2, 2024 15:10:44 GMT 1
I too don’t have too much knowledge of Ms Hopkins personally but I do know that her politics are somewhat to the right of Heinrich Himmler.
Anyway, all publicity is good, especially if it builds a groundswell of opinion that sees the venue cancel the booking. Which apparently is being considered.
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Post by servernaside on Feb 2, 2024 15:27:03 GMT 1
I too don’t have too much knowledge of Ms Hopkins personally but I do know that her politics are somewhat to the right of Heinrich Himmler. Anyway, all publicity is good, especially if it builds a groundswell of opinion that sees the venue cancel the booking. Which apparently is being considered. Ah ! Good old cancel culture. Didn't you know that we live in something called a democracy.
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Post by ssshrew on Feb 2, 2024 15:47:32 GMT 1
I think the problem is that we do know this. The question seems to be does she!
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Post by jamo on Feb 2, 2024 15:53:05 GMT 1
I think the problem is that we do know this. The question seems to be does she! Exactly. If only someone had cancelled good old Heinrich
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2024 15:55:25 GMT 1
I too don’t have too much knowledge of Ms Hopkins personally but I do know that her politics are somewhat to the right of Heinrich Himmler. Anyway, all publicity is good, especially if it builds a groundswell of opinion that sees the venue cancel the booking. Which apparently is being considered. Ah ! Good old cancel culture. Didn't you know that we live in something called a democracy. Enjoy your night out!
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2024 15:57:37 GMT 1
I too don’t have too much knowledge of Ms Hopkins personally but I do know that her politics are somewhat to the right of Heinrich Himmler. Anyway, all publicity is good, especially if it builds a groundswell of opinion that sees the venue cancel the booking. Which apparently is being considered. Ah ! Good old cancel culture. Didn't you know that we live in something called a democracy. There's no such thing as "cancel culture". Have you considered that some people might be exercising their democratic right to protest that Ms Hopkins ought not to be given the opportunity to monetise her hate speech addiction, and that the venue (or whoever) might now be reconsidering? That would be wholly democratic.
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Post by jamo on Feb 2, 2024 16:03:29 GMT 1
Ah ! Good old cancel culture. Didn't you know that we live in something called a democracy. Enjoy your night out! I have this image of severnaside sitting in the front row of The Buttermarket in a state of high arousal clutching some carnations and a box of Milk Tray
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2024 16:10:25 GMT 1
I have this image of severnside sitting in the front row of The Buttermarket in a state of high arousal clutching some carnations and a box of Milk Tray I hope you soon manage to "cancel" that image.
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Post by servernaside on Feb 2, 2024 17:56:14 GMT 1
Ah ! Good old cancel culture. Didn't you know that we live in something called a democracy. There's no such thing as "cancel culture". Have you considered that some people might be exercising their democratic right to protest that Ms Hopkins ought not to be given the opportunity to monetise her hate speech addiction, and that the venue (or whoever) might now be reconsidering? That would be wholly democratic. You have a strange idea of democracy.......... in fact no idea at all. i think you'll find that it's a system wherein everyone is entitled to hold an opinion and also entitled to express it. i suggest you get someone to buy you a dictionary for your next birthday.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 2, 2024 18:05:17 GMT 1
There's no such thing as "cancel culture". Have you considered that some people might be exercising their democratic right to protest that Ms Hopkins ought not to be given the opportunity to monetise her hate speech addiction, and that the venue (or whoever) might now be reconsidering? That would be wholly democratic. You have a strange idea of democracy.......... in fact no idea at all. i think you'll find that it's a system wherein everyone is entitled to hold an opinion and also entitled to express it. i suggest you get someone to buy you a dictionary for your next birthday. That's really not what democracy is. The term derives from the Greek " demos", meaning people, and is a system of government whereby power is vested in the people. Freedom of opinion and freedom of speech are concepts held to be protected in democratic states, but they're not in themselves " democracy". Am I surprised that a Hopkins fanboy doesn't know what he's talking about?
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Post by mattmw on Feb 2, 2024 18:11:37 GMT 1
As a side point the Katie Hopkins show is just about the only “original” thing on at The Buttermarket this year, the only shows they seem to have on now are tribute acts, and slightly oddly 90s act Finley Quaye (ask your parents kids)
Back in the old days they used to put on some good gigs with local acts alongside the weekend club nights. Quite sad it’s all tribute acts now but guess that’s where the money is. Not quite sure where young bands would play in Shrewsbury now - maybe the Hive or St Mary’s Church?
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Post by servernaside on Feb 2, 2024 18:44:02 GMT 1
You have a strange idea of democracy.......... in fact no idea at all. i think you'll find that it's a system wherein everyone is entitled to hold an opinion and also entitled to express it. i suggest you get someone to buy you a dictionary for your next birthday. That's really not what democracy is. The term derives from the Greek " demos", meaning people, and is a system of government whereby power is vested in the people. Freedom of opinion and freedom of speech are concepts held to be protected in democratic states, but they're not in themselves " democracy". Am I surprised that a Hopkins fanboy doesn't know what he's talking about? Am I surprised that the cancel culture advocate hasn't grasped that the only way in which 'power is vested in the people' is via the full and open debate of issues in order that the 'demos' can make up their minds what kind of government they would like? It's easy to get confused with these pesky terms isn't it? Perhaps a bit more detailed research on the subject would be in order.
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Post by crowshrew on Feb 2, 2024 19:10:14 GMT 1
What a load of woke Karen’s you all are. The woman speaks a lot of sense and has much more support than you lot could ever imagine. More people like her and the country would be in a much better place .
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2024 20:33:49 GMT 1
What a load of woke Karen’s you all are. The woman speaks a lot of sense and has much more support than you lot could ever imagine. More people like her and the country would be in a much better place . You attend if you want to, it's a (fairly) free country. It's also a capitalist country, Katie may be there because she likes the sound of her own voice, but the venue presumably thinks it will make money, if they didn't they wouldn't be giving her the platform. It's money that talks, not democracy.
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Post by gobowenshrew on Feb 3, 2024 12:02:27 GMT 1
Not my cup of tea at all but people also pay to see James O'Brien and Billy Bragg.
More money than sense some people.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 3, 2024 12:12:57 GMT 1
That's really not what democracy is. The term derives from the Greek " demos", meaning people, and is a system of government whereby power is vested in the people. Freedom of opinion and freedom of speech are concepts held to be protected in democratic states, but they're not in themselves " democracy". Am I surprised that a Hopkins fanboy doesn't know what he's talking about? Am I surprised that the cancel culture advocate hasn't grasped that the only way in which 'power is vested in the people' is via the full and open debate of issues in order that the 'demos' can make up their minds what kind of government they would like? It's easy to get confused with these pesky terms isn't it? Perhaps a bit more detailed research on the subject would be in order. Curious to know how you think someone can be an advocate for something they don't believe exists. I agree some more work on your part might help you avoid being so muddled in future.
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Post by venceremos on Feb 3, 2024 12:14:46 GMT 1
Not my cup of tea at all but people also pay to see James O'Brien and Billy Bragg. More money than sense some people. People pay to hear Billy Bragg's music. Hopkins doesn't have a tune.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 3, 2024 13:08:01 GMT 1
I don't have much knowledge of Ms Hopkins, but I imagine from the comments above that her politics are somewhat to the right of those posting on this thread. Anyway, well done everyone for publicising it. Lets not forget that for a good few these days anyone slightly to the right of Pol Pot is a fascist. One of the recent highlights of B&A in recent years was a genuine discussion whether someone on here was an actual fascist. I can't be doing with Hopkins myself but even so whether she holds views that some would consider abhorrent is by the by, as long as those views do not fall beyond was it permissible or not then she ought to be allowed to voice them. With how things are playing out today I'm more concerned with the folk who go about trying to silence those with views they happen to disagree with. Of which there are plenty of examples.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 3, 2024 13:25:15 GMT 1
I don't have much knowledge of Ms Hopkins, but I imagine from the comments above that her politics are somewhat to the right of those posting on this thread. Anyway, well done everyone for publicising it. Lets not forget that for a good few these days anyone slightly to the right of Pol Pot is a fascist. One of the recent highlights of B&A in recent years was a genuine discussion whether someone on here was an actual fascist. I can't be doing with Hopkins myself but even so whether she holds views that some would consider abhorrent is by the by, as long as those views do not fall beyond was it permissible or not then she ought to be allowed to voice them. With how things are playing out today I'm more concerned with the folk who go about trying to silence those with views they happen to disagree with. Of which there are plenty of examples. After all, this is just a commercial venture, not a news agency or organisation giving her a free platform. If you don't like her don't buy a ticket.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 3, 2024 13:31:04 GMT 1
Lets not forget that for a good few these days anyone slightly to the right of Pol Pot is a fascist. One of the recent highlights of B&A in recent years was a genuine discussion whether someone on here was an actual fascist. I can't be doing with Hopkins myself but even so whether she holds views that some would consider abhorrent is by the by, as long as those views do not fall beyond was it permissible or not then she ought to be allowed to voice them. With how things are playing out today I'm more concerned with the folk who go about trying to silence those with views they happen to disagree with. Of which there are plenty of examples. If you don't like her don't buy a ticket. Exactly. But unfortunately there are many who hold just as abhorrent views who wish to police what others can or can not say or hear.
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Post by servernaside on Feb 3, 2024 14:05:57 GMT 1
I read in the Shropshire Star today that Ms Hopkins has been overwhelmed by the sale of tickets to her forthcoming event.
She paid particular tribute to those on this B&A thread who have managed to publicise it to a far greater extent than had earlier been the case.
Bless!
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Feb 3, 2024 14:23:39 GMT 1
I'd be interested in seeing her show, but as I said earlier I don't like going out and would much prefer to be at home with Mrs Clash and our little dog.
Out of curiosity how much are the tickets ?
Gig tickets are criminally priced these we've got some shows booked for Wolves this year £70 for The The, £76 The Damned and the one cheapie is Hawkwind at £ 40.
I guess the bigger the venue the pricier the ticket.
The one time I saw The Clash it was 4 quid and I still have the stub .
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 3, 2024 14:41:30 GMT 1
I read in the Shropshire Star today that Ms Hopkins has been overwhelmed by the sale of tickets to her forthcoming event. She paid particular tribute to those on this B&A thread who have managed to publicise it to a far greater extent than had earlier been the case. Bless! In other news, sales of out of date eggs and tomatoes have rocketed.
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Feb 3, 2024 22:38:27 GMT 1
I'm no fan of Katie Hopkins but.....
Everything Tommy Robinson and this woman have said about the Islamification of Europe, muslim grooming gangs etc has been 100% spot on.
Make no mistake, what's happened in Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden etc is going to happen HERE unless something drastic is done. In these countries they are demanding caliphates and sharia law. Thousands upon thousands taking to the streets. At the next General Election we could see a muslim majority in the House of Commons. There's no compromise with Islam. The There's already been an application to register a new 'Party of Islam' in the UK - which was rejected.
Judging what's happening in Europe, there is every justification to be worried
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Post by Flixton_shrew on Feb 4, 2024 0:24:02 GMT 1
I'm no fan of Katie Hopkins but..... Everything Tommy Robinson and this woman have said about the Islamification of Europe, muslim grooming gangs etc has been 100% spot on. Make no mistake, what's happened in Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden etc is going to happen HERE unless something drastic is done. In these countries they are demanding caliphates and sharia law. Thousands upon thousands taking to the streets. At the next General Election we could see a muslim majority in the House of Commons. There's no compromise with Islam. The There's already been an application to register a new 'Party of Islam' in the UK - which was rejected. Judging what's happening in Europe, there is every justification to be worried '100% spot on ' ?? ...... put the tinfoil hat away fbs... Katie / Tommy make a lot of money by exaggerating claims like the one above.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 4, 2024 1:37:53 GMT 1
I'm no fan of Katie Hopkins but..... Everything Tommy Robinson and this woman have said about the Islamification of Europe, muslim grooming gangs etc has been 100% spot on. Make no mistake, what's happened in Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden etc is going to happen HERE unless something drastic is done. In these countries they are demanding caliphates and sharia law. Thousands upon thousands taking to the streets. At the next General Election we could see a muslim majority in the House of Commons. There's no compromise with Islam. The There's already been an application to register a new 'Party of Islam' in the UK - which was rejected. Judging what's happening in Europe, there is every justification to be worried I have a video somewhere of Tommy Robinson , I was in the Ramna having a meal and in he walked with his entourage making claims galore at one of the staff, I have it on you tube somewhere, will link t it if I remember , I saw him as a bit of an arsehle to be honest
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