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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 21:36:37 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious
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Post by Scarecrow on Oct 3, 2023 21:39:16 GMT 1
In the summer, if rumours are to believed, Steve and Brian were forced out of the club for financial mismanagement. Rumours that have been allowed to swirl around mainly due to the secrecy and inability of the club to communicate anything to its fan base. We ended that season with a bit of a damp squib but with a solid squad that looked decent at league one level, capable of pulling off some surprises on the bigger teams whilst allowing fans after the Vale game genuine hopes that we could push on to the playoffs.
Out of absolutely nowhere Brian left with no word from the club until rumours on messageboards forced the club to release a statement. We then had a director of football appointed before Steve was sacked with absolutely no explanation given. We’ve had hints about the club being financially mismanaged but the hierarchy of the club felt no need to clear it up at all to us plebs, allowing rumours to continue to swirl.
But hey, I thought let’s give this season a go. Was I happy with the appointment of Taylor? Not particularly, he didn’t seem inspiring but he talked a good game about being an attractive outfit. We then sold the heart of this team in Luke Leahy whose absence now is noticeable with each passing game. The leader who tied this club to the fans and kept pushing us forward as club captain. If he wanted out, fine but it was a huge loss to the squad.
I have not seen a single player brought in by Moore improve this team. We’ve seen competent replacements in defence like Feeney and prospects like Mata but I have seen nothing at all added to this team in the summer to improve Steve’s squad, in fact we’ve gone backwards.
The core of the team of last season is the same which gives Taylor absolutely no excuse to see us getting the results we’ve seen. There’s no doubt in my mind we’d have beaten Rovers and Charlton if Steve had been in charge. Marosi, Dunkley, Winchester, Bayliss and Udoh are good enough players not to put us anywhere near the danger zone of relegation. I don’t feel this team believes in Taylor, I don’t believe they are playing to their full potential and I have seen nothing that gives me optimism for this season.
Whilst it’s easy to stick the blame on Taylor for the results, and he does bare responsibility, so does Moore because the signings have added nothing whatsoever to this team. The real problem lies with the person who has evaded telling us what the hell has been going on.
Why was it Steve and Brian were sacked? Why is it that we’ve sacked a manager who actually took us forward on the pitch? Why is it that for the last ten years this club has made limited progress in league one except under Steve and a wonder season under Hurst? Why is it that we’ve allowed absolute dud managers such as Ricketts be allowed to drive this club into stagnation? What exactly is the vision for this football club? A price increase to £24 to watch a club incapable of scoring from open play?
So Roland this is on you now. Fans aren’t calling for Taylor or Moore’s heads. This is your call and frankly you’ve run out of bodies you can throw to the wolves to defend yourself and the cloud this football club is living under. As fans we deserve more than what we are seeing but right now we could easily be tumbling into the bottom six and in a scrap until the end. And there is no one to blame but Roland.
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 3, 2023 21:45:11 GMT 1
Actually...on facebook right now...almost everyone is calling for Taylor and Moores' heads
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 21:52:59 GMT 1
Actually...on facebook right now...almost everyone is calling for Taylor and Moores' heads They're blinded, they need to zoom out. I'd caveat though, the majority are young kids.
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 3, 2023 21:54:48 GMT 1
Why are threads being tampered with to mock posters? Sheer abuse of power again
Great post by Scarecrow. I echo a lot of the thoughts. It’s a desperate time for sure sadly. Some serious questions remain unanswered
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:01:52 GMT 1
Why are threads being tampered with to mock posters? Sheer abuse of power again Great post by Scarecrow. I echo a lot of the thoughts. It’s a desperate time for sure sadly. Some serious questions remain unanswered it was simply to give you the opportunity to slag the admin off for the 100th time this season, thank me later
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 22:19:28 GMT 1
This place is an embarassment now due solely to one poster. The best thing to do would be to leave.
But he didnt set it up, and he didnt do the positive stuff.
So Ill stay and keep engaging with the other posters.
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Post by dachshund on Oct 3, 2023 22:21:15 GMT 1
This place is an embarassment now due solely to one poster. The best thing to do would be to leave Your dad in Athena in 1993 when he saw the topless guy cradling the baby
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:27:02 GMT 1
I often wonder whether Ant laughs or despairs at the farce B&A has become.
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Post by Scarecrow on Oct 3, 2023 22:30:00 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious I just want to express my opinion on a message board…
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:33:56 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious I just want to express my opinion on a message board… congrats you did, at least you didn't express mine on radio Shropshire tonight on my behalf
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:34:17 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious I just want to express my opinion on a message board… I think 99.9% of us feel exactly the same, we just say what we think and feel in the emotion of a moment. There's only a couple who play games.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2023 22:39:36 GMT 1
B&A has always been a broad church of Salop fans of all shapes, sizes and opinions and it’s a huge shame to see the number of regular posters greatly reduced these days. Therefore I welcome considered posts like the opening one who raises some genuine points.
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Post by belfastshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:40:06 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious Is this not 'singling out and ridiculing'??
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 22:40:59 GMT 1
I think 99.9% of us feel exactly the same, we just say what we think and feel in the emotion of a moment. There's only a couple who play games. I wish I could too without being singled out and ridiculed, thats not how this forum works though is it You don't have a genuine opinion though, do you? You just go with the polar opposite of reality, or ridicule other posters. Here's your chance in an open forum without prejudice to give us your detailed opinion about the state of the town, the owner, and DOF and the coach? My bet is you'll came back with a cringy sarcastic comment and one of those creepy wink faces, but I like being proven wrong so fire away, I'm all ears ...
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 22:43:55 GMT 1
tonight the thread will be started by scarecrow, ****ing obvious Is this not 'singling out and ridiculing'?? it was a prediction, no ridicule at all, just praise, I knew I could reply on him to put the knives in
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:14:46 GMT 1
As I stated elsewhere, I don’t want a coach or a DOF, I just want a manager who picks his own coaches, pick his own formations, his own tactics and his own players! I know this is the new way forward but I bloody hate it! I also hate playing out from the back as we ain’t Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:20:48 GMT 1
As I stated elsewhere, I don’t want a coach or a DOF, I just want a manager who picks his own coaches, pick his own formations, his own tactics and his own players! I know this is the new way forward but I bloody hate it! I also hate playing out from the back as we ain’t Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City! And helps spend next seasons budget leaving us in the s**te And claiming credit for 12th Place On the back of it , No thanks I'd much rather go down
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:27:56 GMT 1
As I stated elsewhere, I don’t want a coach or a DOF, I just want a manager who picks his own coaches, pick his own formations, his own tactics and his own players! I know this is the new way forward but I bloody hate it! I also hate playing out from the back as we ain’t Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City! And helps spend next seasons budget leaving us in the s**te And claiming credit for 12th Place On the back of it , No thanks I'd much rather go down Grand, L2 here we come, with a smaller budget and smaller crowds!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:32:00 GMT 1
And helps spend next seasons budget leaving us in the s**te And claiming credit for 12th Place On the back of it , No thanks I'd much rather go down Grand, L2 here we come, with a smaller budget and smaller crowds! Lineker was On about that last week , no one wants to go down he said , but then after the summer it all kicks off again and it all Exciting again , a new expectation , One of the big boys , a promotion campaign ? , Big crowds, Maybe we could splash out and buy grant holt , He might gain us 9th position , Amazing
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:33:09 GMT 1
And helps spend next seasons budget leaving us in the s**te And claiming credit for 12th Place On the back of it , No thanks I'd much rather go down Grand, L2 here we come, with a smaller budget and smaller crowds! I've said it multiple times, but communication is key. Accy might've gone down, but they've always been open and communicated expectations to their fans who are more engaged than ever. Yes they're in L2, but they've got 2x new stands, a tremendous supporters bar and have a philosophy of bringing in released Premier League academy products and trying to make a profit on them. An engaged fanbase is your most powerful tool.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 3, 2023 23:41:13 GMT 1
Youve said multiple times you want the pboro model , twice this week Ive brought it to your attention they have a long standing DOF, there you go, avoid it for the third time
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:44:42 GMT 1
Grand, L2 here we come, with a smaller budget and smaller crowds! Lineker was On about that last week , no one wants to go down he said , but then after the summer it all kicks off again and it all Exciting again , a new expectation , One of the big boys , a promotion campaign ? , Big crowds, Maybe we could splash out and buy grant holt , He might gain us 9th position , Amazing Or the wheels could completely fall off and we could end up back in National League! PS: we ain’t Leicester!
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:47:45 GMT 1
Youve said multiple times you want the pboro model , twice this week Ive brought it to your attention they have a long standing DOF, there you go, avoid it for the third time Let's be fair about it, they have one that's pulled in £30m+ in transfer fees, some mad money in add ons and regularly finds gems from the lower leagues to sell on at a later date! We appear to have a fraud that's left Cheltenham with no goals scored in over 1,000 minutes of professional football. What a legacy!
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 3, 2023 23:55:13 GMT 1
I wish I could too without being singled out and ridiculed, thats not how this forum works though is it You don't have a genuine opinion though, do you? You just go with the polar opposite of reality, or ridicule other posters. Here's your chance in an open forum without prejudice to give us your detailed opinion about the state of the town, the owner, and DOF and the coach? My bet is you'll came back with a cringy sarcastic comment and one of those creepy wink faces, but I like being proven wrong so fire away, I'm all ears ... I feel one of these coming on: "4 hours and not one objection, probably because its true"
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Post by southshropblue on Oct 4, 2023 8:00:17 GMT 1
As I stated elsewhere, I don’t want a coach or a DOF, I just want a manager who picks his own coaches, pick his own formations, his own tactics and his own players! I know this is the new way forward but I bloody hate it! I also hate playing out from the back as we ain’t Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City! And helps spend next seasons budget leaving us in the s**te And claiming credit for 12th Place On the back of it , No thanks I'd much rather go down at this moment it looks as though you will get your wish sadly
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Post by shrewblue on Oct 4, 2023 8:34:39 GMT 1
We are clearly sleep walking towards relegation due to some sort of disbelief and inertia from the people in charge of the club at all management and coaching levels.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 4, 2023 8:44:00 GMT 1
Lineker was On about that last week , no one wants to go down he said , but then after the summer it all kicks off again and it all Exciting again , a new expectation , One of the big boys , a promotion campaign ? , Big crowds, Maybe we could splash out and buy grant holt , He might gain us 9th position , Amazing Or the wheels could completely fall off and we could end up back in National League! PS: we ain’t Leicester! Who are we like then ? Or at least who do you think we are like ?
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Post by Pilch on Oct 4, 2023 8:46:15 GMT 1
We are clearly sleep walking towards relegation due to some sort of disbelief and inertia from the people in charge of the club at all management and coaching levels. And bad luck with injuries and the need for a bigger budget
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Post by Pilch on Oct 4, 2023 9:46:07 GMT 1
We are clearly sleep walking towards relegation due to some sort of disbelief and inertia from the people in charge of the club at all management and coaching levels. not that old chestnut here's a doom and gloom thread from just 2022, we were sleepwalking to relegation apparently blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/102862/sleepwalking-relegationone of our recent managers was always sleepwalking to relegation including this season, oh we stayed up If the club was really "rotten to the core" then fans would have genuine reason to protest but the reality is we are going through a bit of a sticky patch. Yes we may get relegated but that was always possible after the breaking up of last season's team. Rotten to the core, no way. Poor judgement with appointments and signings, yes maybe. Relegation was always going to be possible? We finished 3rd, and whilst i'm not suggesting we should have finished there again, anywhere 14th upwards away from relegation should have been easy! Fact remains we've blown a considerable amount of money on a bulk of signings, the vast majority lacking quality and are sleepwalking towards League Two. We've brought in two managers with no league experience and don't appear to have any kind of plan or model for the club. Why we don't sign quality over quantity and bring some youth through is beyond me. We're in a continuous cycle of bringing people in, finding out they're not good enough, paying them off, bringing in older replacements, paying them off and doing exactly the same over and over.
We’re going backwards, sleepwalking in to the relegation battle Very concerned we also were sleepwalking towards relegation to the conference 15 years ago we stayed up easily and wrexham went down blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/47993/sleepwalking-relegationthere are many other examples too in all cases we sleptwalked towards safety ;-)
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