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Post by northwestman on Jul 12, 2023 14:21:50 GMT 1
We are easy pickings, so much for ambition, if we even had any. Same as Worcestershire CCC. Barnard, Clarke, Moeen and TKC all gone. Tongue and Pennington (the cricket one!) signing 3 year deals with Notts. Haynes and Brown also likely to go elsewhere.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 14:32:02 GMT 1
Time to implement a proper transfer structure.
If you've got 18 months of less and you haven't signed a new deal or indications are you won't, straight on the transfer list towards the end of December.
Teams need to know we're well run (Or at least be under the impression we are) and won't have our best talent pinched for buttons.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 12, 2023 14:45:18 GMT 1
Heard more like 150k/175k as a fee. Add ons too should make it a more reasonable figure. Frees up a lot of the wage bill too for new faces. A lot of the wage bill? He was down and out before we gave him a chance so I doubt he was one of our top earners. Leahy and Pennington were the two players who pushed town forward losing both is a huge blow
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 12, 2023 15:07:48 GMT 1
Time to implement a proper transfer structure. If you've got 18 months of less and you haven't signed a new deal or indications are you won't, straight on the transfer list towards the end of December. Teams need to know we're well run (Or at least be under the impression we are) and won't have our best talent pinched for buttons. Whilst I've grown frustrated with our 'wait till the end of the season before we discuss contract's' approach, I'm not sure it's as easy as that. For starters most signings are 1-2 year deals so based on your suggestion, we would be signing them and then putting them on the transfer list a few months later! In Leahy's case, it's actually a sign of progress at the club that they had the foresight to put in the extra year and in our favour, we've lost a lot of players because they've reached the end of their deal and they've walked away. I don't think the contract approach is the issue here, even if he was signed for another 2 years I don't think we would get a huge amount for him. The issue is the status of the football club and the ambition for next season which is why we are likely to see the senior players want out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 15:09:02 GMT 1
A lot of the wage bill? He was down and out before we gave him a chance so I doubt he was one of our top earners. Leahy and Pennington were the two players who pushed town forward losing both is a huge blow Our senior squad is looking paper thin as things stand. One will already miss preseason due to injury and we really don't know if Nurse & Udoh are the players they once were.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 15:17:49 GMT 1
Time to implement a proper transfer structure. If you've got 18 months of less and you haven't signed a new deal or indications are you won't, straight on the transfer list towards the end of December. Teams need to know we're well run (Or at least be under the impression we are) and won't have our best talent pinched for buttons. Whilst I've grown frustrated with our 'wait till the end of the season before we discuss contract's' approach, I'm not sure it's as easy as that. For starters most signings are 1-2 year deals so based on your suggestion, we would be signing them and then putting them on the transfer list a few months later! In Leahy's case, it's actually a sign of progress at the club that they had the foresight to put in the extra year and in our favour, we've lost a lot of players because they've reached the end of their deal and they've walked away. I don't think the contract approach is the issue here, even if he was signed for another 2 years I don't think we would get a huge amount for him. The issue is the status of the football club and the ambition for next season which is why we are likely to see the senior players want out. Agreed, maybe it's a case we insist on year options in the clubs favour, this Leahy one has worked out ok, albeit our lack of ambition has shafted us. It's that or risk three year deals. I guess we may get more confident offering three years deals once we're over the Pyke nightmare and can see some success in Micky Moores signings.
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Post by londonshrew75 on Jul 12, 2023 16:01:20 GMT 1
Not the end of the world as far as I'm concerned. If two of Dunkley Bailis and Shipley went, then that would be a worry. When in midfield I always thought the game passed him by and would often lose possession in dangerous places. I really want to to see Shipley in a more advanced role when Nurse goes to left back.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 12, 2023 16:27:20 GMT 1
Not the end of the world as far as I'm concerned. If two of Dunkley Bailis and Shipley went, then that would be a worry. When in midfield I always thought the game passed him by and would often lose possession in dangerous places. I really want to to see Shipley in a more advanced role when Nurse goes to left back. Hopefully no one will sign Dunkley whilst injured.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jul 12, 2023 17:28:47 GMT 1
Yep, probably play Shipley further forward, if were gonna play 4-3-2-1
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 17:49:30 GMT 1
Leahy and Pennington were the two players who pushed town forward losing both is a huge blow Our senior squad is looking paper thin as things stand. One will already miss preseason due to injury and we really don't know if Nurse & Udoh are the players they once were. Or end up with such a bloated squad that we ended up putting some of them out on gardening leave, Love and Goss come to mind. I would take a smaller quality squad any day exactly what do you want ? how about a smaller not so quality but overpaid squad with some put out on gardening leave ( like last season )
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Post by pughywasfree on Jul 12, 2023 18:51:02 GMT 1
A lot of the wage bill? He was down and out before we gave him a chance so I doubt he was one of our top earners. Suggestions that we’d turned down several bids by Wycombe and that we offered Leahy an improved contract offer suggests that we’ve got money for wages…maybe SC was on a fair whack, which now frees up cash to invest in the squad and management team? Expect some more signings this week, players who’ve been released from other clubs and may be surprising for many. Loan players also being looked at. I expect SC and BC's wages cover the 20 people we have hired to replace them. Pennington would have been on a fair wack here so that would have free'd up a lot of wages.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 19:04:37 GMT 1
Our senior squad is looking paper thin as things stand.One will already miss preseason due to injury and we really don't know if Nurse & Udoh are the players they once were. Or end up with such a bloated squad that we ended up putting some of them out on gardening leave, Love and Goss come to mind. I would take a smaller quality squad any day exactly what do you want ? how about a smaller not so quality but overpaid squad with some put out on gardening leave ( like last season ) AS THINGS STAND.....Let's see what happens in the coming weeks recruitment wise.
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Post by Valerioch on Jul 12, 2023 19:11:57 GMT 1
Whilst I've grown frustrated with our 'wait till the end of the season before we discuss contract's' approach, I'm not sure it's as easy as that. For starters most signings are 1-2 year deals so based on your suggestion, we would be signing them and then putting them on the transfer list a few months later! In Leahy's case, it's actually a sign of progress at the club that they had the foresight to put in the extra year and in our favour, we've lost a lot of players because they've reached the end of their deal and they've walked away. I don't think the contract approach is the issue here, even if he was signed for another 2 years I don't think we would get a huge amount for him. The issue is the status of the football club and the ambition for next season which is why we are likely to see the senior players want out. Agreed, maybe it's a case we insist on year options in the clubs favour, this Leahy one has worked out ok, albeit our lack of ambition has shafted us. It's that or risk three year deals. I guess we may get more confident offering three years deals once we're over the Pyke nightmare and can see some success in Micky Moores signings. This is the problem and I can’t really blame Roland on that one, if he’s forking out £312k over 3 years for Pyke, and given the disastrous lack of return he got, I wouldn’t be rushing to dish out many more 3 year deals Agree with your overall sentiments
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Post by Pilch on Jul 12, 2023 19:47:01 GMT 1
exactly what do you want ? how about a smaller not so quality but overpaid squad with some put out on gardening leave ( like last season ) AS THINGS STAND.....Let's see what happens in the coming weeks recruitment wise. no s**t but lets do it patiently
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 19:52:56 GMT 1
Back on Leahy, I've been told the first team aren't that bothered to see a change of captain.
Sentiments along the lines of "SCs golden boy" and "Only one who never got criticised".
Funny what you get to hear!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 19:56:57 GMT 1
AS THINGS STAND.....Let's see what happens in the coming weeks recruitment wise. no s**t but lets do it patiently One more has arrived just as I typed the above...be interesting if the lad on trial is offered something.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 12, 2023 22:42:39 GMT 1
The Sky Sports News ticker just said:
"Wycombe sign Luke Leahy from Shrewsbury for undisclosed fee, the striker will wear number 10 shirt"
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Post by swissshrew on Jul 13, 2023 1:30:39 GMT 1
Wycombe - wtf 🤬
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Post by secretshrew on Jul 13, 2023 6:25:36 GMT 1
What’s to say we won’t finish above Wycombe this season? Stranger things have happened…
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 13, 2023 11:14:13 GMT 1
If some Juan doesn't want to play for us, off you toddle then as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 13, 2023 12:37:15 GMT 1
Absolutely.
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Post by mrcricket on Jul 13, 2023 23:45:41 GMT 1
I like Leahy and I appreciate he's got more sense like Pennington has (in not joining those idiots across the border). But Wycombe really.... A side not much better in terms of ambition surely, Perhaps they have more Championship cash.
Shame, Anyone remember his last minute penalty winner last season against them.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jul 14, 2023 9:24:00 GMT 1
I like Leahy and I appreciate he's got more sense like Pennington has (in not joining those idiots across the border). But Wycombe really.... A side not much better in terms of ambition surely, Perhaps they have more Championship cash. Shame, Anyone remember his last minute penalty winner last season against them. A bit of Championship cash but they have an American owner. The last accounts showed a loss of ÂŁ2.5million and I suspect they are building up a bit of debt but all guaranteed by the owner I suspect their ambitions differ a hell of a lot to ours.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 17, 2023 22:06:52 GMT 1
exactly what do you want ? how about a smaller not so quality but overpaid squad with some put out on gardening leave ( like last season ) AS THINGS STAND.....Let's see what happens in the coming weeks recruitment wise. or days
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