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Post by Valerioch on Nov 8, 2022 21:23:29 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 8, 2022 22:50:31 GMT 1
Hopefully that is the last we will hear of Gavin Williamson anywhere around any government. But, please, don't ever give the bloke a peerage.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 8, 2022 23:05:55 GMT 1
Resigned, another one found guilty before due process He says he has stepped down so he can comply with the complaints process "and clear my name of any wrongdoing". |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2022 23:26:02 GMT 1
Resigned, another one found guilty before due process More likely that he resigned before even more allegations surfaced and he’s now banking on them going away. Was probably some dodgy back room deal, that seems how most of these things get resolved. |
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Post by MartinB on Nov 9, 2022 8:35:51 GMT 1
Resigned, another one found guilty before due process Trouble is Tory Party due process is to announce an enquiry which never starts or if it does never finishes. Pure delaying tactics to try to protect their own. On the main board there is a "Binned off Managers" thread. Perhaps we ought to have a "Binned off Minister" thread on this sub board? |
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 9, 2022 9:09:05 GMT 1
Resigned, another one found guilty before due process Trouble is Tory Party due process is to announce an enquiry which never starts or if it does never finishes. Pure delaying tactics to try to protect their own. On the main board there is a "Binned off Managers" thread. Perhaps we ought to have a "Binned off Minister" thread on this sub board? Trouble is that the way things are going there wouldn’t be enough room for it! Also would we be able to keep up?! Mind you Here Today, Gone Tomorrow might be a good title! |
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Post by northwestman on Nov 9, 2022 10:25:48 GMT 1
Remember this? Didn't clear his name that's for sure. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6981725/Defence-Secretary-Gavin-Williamson-SACKED-Theresa-May.htmlTheresa May sacked Gavin Williamson over the Huawei leak after his 11-minute call to a journalist was uncovered by her civil service enforcer, it was revealed today. Sir Mark Sedwill pored over the Defence Secretary's phone records and found he had spoken to Daily Telegraph reporter Steven Swinford on the day of National Security Council discussions about Huawei's potential access to the UK's 5G network. Mrs May fired him last night claiming there was 'compelling evidence' he was responsible for the leak - but Mr Williamson claims he spoke to Swinford about the Tory leadership and Brexit and said the PM had 'just sacked someone who is not guilty', adding: 'I swear on my children's lives that I'm innocent.' |
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 9, 2022 10:39:20 GMT 1
I'd just like to forget about Gavin Williamson, this looks like three strikes and you are out, for good. But, as they do, I suppose he will turn up in some undeserved elevated position in public life in the years to come.
Is it too late for him to be parchuted into "I'm a celebrity" this year?
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Post by northwestman on Nov 9, 2022 11:18:00 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/nov/08/gavin-williamson-backed-winners-but-made-many-ministerial-mishapsIt is perhaps the greatest testament to Gavin Williamson’s mastery of the baser political arts that three separate prime ministers have seemingly found him indispensable despite his striking record of ministerial mishaps and, at times, sheer ineptitude. Further evidence of Williamson’s political antennae comes from his parallel habit of backing winners: he was an early supporter of Theresa May, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak, proving invaluable in marshalling support among Tory MPs. The same fundamental paradox has, however, emerged under all three: Williamson is seemingly much better at acquiring ministerial roles than carrying them out, with the exception of being chief whip. Williamson’s more terminal political downfall appears likely to come as a corollary of his greatest talent: as a politician even his foes accept is brilliant at gauging support levels, knowing secrets about everyone and everything, and using the various levers at a whip’s disposal to exert pressure. Williamson has visibly enjoyed this reputation, gaining his first beyond-Westminster renown as a chief whip who kept a pet tarantula called Cronus in a glass box on his desk. When he was Education Secretary, he kept a whip there. “I don’t very much believe in the stick,” Williamson joked at a May-era Conservative party conference. “But it’s amazing what can be achieved with a sharpened carrot.” What has emerged in recent days is the sense that Williamson’s evident enjoyment of the inevitable menace of a whip’s role can, critics allege, spill over into bullying, abuse or just plain pettiness. One of the most damaging recent claims is the fact that Williamson not only sent furious messages to Wendy Morton, who filled the chief whip’s role under Liz Truss, but did so because he could not believe he had not been invited to the Queen’s funeral.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 9, 2022 17:01:07 GMT 1
In the dunghill of contemporary politics, Williamson has been a top dung beetle, waging head-to-head matches in the Westminster dung tunnel and coming out on top.
That’s Williamson, alright. Loathsome, invariably ridiculous, but top-notch at burying the s--t his bosses want to keep hidden.
The former fireplace salesman served as defence secretary under Theresa May and education secretary under Boris Johnson during Covid, somehow managing to keep British schools closed longer than any comparable country while making a fiasco of exams. He was sacked from both roles. Astoundingly, Boris awarded him a knighthood in March.
When I saw that Rishi Sunak had appointed him Minister without Portfolio, I thought:
1. Not trusted to be given a proper job but too feared not to be given a job. He knows too much.
2. Payback time for twisting arms during the Tory leadership campaign.
3. This will be a disaster that “professionalism and integrity” Sunak lives to regret.
Allison Pearson. Daily Telegraph.
Exactly the same 3 thoughts as myself!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 8:41:08 GMT 1
I thought Starmer would obsess over this issue at PMQs and come across as a broken record, and he did use up half his questions on it, but he absolutely destroyed Sunak who was left looking weak and frankly a bit pathetic.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 11, 2022 11:51:17 GMT 1
The point of having Williamson help to run your leadership campaign – the service which originally earned Williamson his third cabinet comeback – and then giving him the usefully vague role of minister without portfolio is to get him to do what he did so very successfully for David Cameron, Theresa May and Boris Johnson, which was to make problems go away. You hire him for the same reason governments of all political stripes have hired their own Williamsons since time immemorial, much as they hate admitting it; to suppress revolts, hush up embarrassments, make the leader’s writ run across a government. The deal is that in return, leaders don’t inquire too closely as to how the sausage gets made. But lately, that deal looks increasingly unsustainable. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/nov/11/gavin-williamson-dark-arts-whips-office-over |
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