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Post by kenwood on Aug 12, 2022 13:56:38 GMT 1
We can all relax now. Health chiefs in England have said 7,000 more hospital beds are to be provided this Winter . It will help those with a respiratory illness in particular although a fair proportion of these new beds will be “ virtual “ beds . Sorry , I haven’t a clue what that means or how it will work.
Anything to relieve the pressure on NHS beds surely must be applauded although where the additional nursing staff are going to come from I know not. Im not trying to make a political point here , I’m genuinely interested in how things are going to be rolled out. Perhaps those on here who are very much involved in our NHS can throw some light on this, is it achievable ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 15:12:47 GMT 1
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 12, 2022 15:21:37 GMT 1
So presumably family members will be expect to do the actual practical nasty bits of nursing?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 15:36:36 GMT 1
So presumably family members will be expect to do the actual practical nasty bits of nursing? Well, yes, a downside but it's being extended to conditions such as COPD, heart failure and asthma. "Caring for patients effectively requires amassing and sharing large and continuous streams of data about the patient’s condition. These include physiological parameters, movement, symptoms, as well as an efficient way of facilitating two way communication, reassuring the patient that their data has been reviewed and that all is in order".
If they can manage/be managed at home, then the upside is less stress of going into hospital, less chance of catching something in hospital, less putting relatives life on hold in continual visiting the patient in hospital.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 12, 2022 15:43:37 GMT 1
True and I really hope it is successful. I have to admit though that if I had to care for someone who, in another world, would be in hospital it would worry me to death especially until the availability of ambulances is improved greatly.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 15:54:10 GMT 1
True and I really hope it is successful. I have to admit though that if I had to care for someone who, in another world, would be in hospital it would worry me to death especially until the availability of ambulances is improved greatly. To some extent it used to happen - when I was growing up my mate's dad had cylinders of Oxygen in his kitchen and, when I knocked at his door, a deathly voice would say "He's (puff, pant, puff) down the (puff, pant, puff) garden (cough, cough, cough)". This put's reassuring technology in place to keep you monitored, as you say, just need a reasonable way to get them into hospital if the monitors indicate it's needed.
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Post by scooter on Aug 12, 2022 16:05:37 GMT 1
What happened to the 40 new hospitals ?
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Post by Pilch on Aug 12, 2022 16:08:06 GMT 1
What happened to the 40 new hospitals ? they are on the waiting list
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 16:11:03 GMT 1
What happened to the 40 new hospitals ? You've missed the bus.
But, if you get the chance, ask Truss, she'll promise you them. She can say she was misunderstood 24 hours later - works a treat. and doesn't ever dent her apparent lead in the poll.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 12, 2022 16:11:57 GMT 1
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 12, 2022 16:40:24 GMT 1
I’ve no problem with virtual wards for the right patients who do not need to actually be in hospital, if their symptoms can be safely managed remotely through technology. Surely in 2022 we should be able to make medical technology work for our benefit.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 12, 2022 16:50:13 GMT 1
the guidance for paramedics has been for a number of years is to keep people at home whenever possible, family carers save the NHS millions but at a price digital.nhs.uk/news/2019/survey-of-adult-carers#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20carers%20who,45.1%25%20in%202018%2D19.&text=2016%2D17)%20and%2066.0%25,%25%20in%202016%2D17). "60.6% of carers reported feeling stressed in 2018-19 (up from 58.7% in 2016-17)2, according to a survey of 50,800 adult carers in England, published today by NHS Digital. The percentage of carers who reported feeling depressed increased from 43.4% in 2016-173 to 45.1% in 2018-19. " District Nurses are the Nurses who are expected to support care in the comunity but there is one big problem. from wikie The RCN is today issuing an unprecedented warning that district nurses, who treat and manage patients in their own homes, are currently “critically endangered” and face extinction by the end of 2025 if urgent investment is not made. when you are family member who is caring for somone having respite care you would think would be essential but for many familys that is not the case .
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 13, 2022 8:54:29 GMT 1
the guidance for paramedics has been for a number of years is to keep people at home whenever possible, family carers save the NHS millions but at a price digital.nhs.uk/news/2019/survey-of-adult-carers#:~:text=The%20percentage%20of%20carers%20who,45.1%25%20in%202018%2D19.&text=2016%2D17)%20and%2066.0%25,%25%20in%202016%2D17). "60.6% of carers reported feeling stressed in 2018-19 (up from 58.7% in 2016-17)2, according to a survey of 50,800 adult carers in England, published today by NHS Digital. The percentage of carers who reported feeling depressed increased from 43.4% in 2016-173 to 45.1% in 2018-19. " District Nurses are the Nurses who are expected to support care in the comunity but there is one big problem. from wikie The RCN is today issuing an unprecedented warning that district nurses, who treat and manage patients in their own homes, are currently “critically endangered” and face extinction by the end of 2025 if urgent investment is not made. when you are family member who is caring for somone having respite care you would think would be essential but for many familys that is not the case . You need to be a registered adult, child, mental health or learning disability nurse to apply for a district nursing training programme. So, very well qualified, maybe a short term "fix" is for District Nurse's to have a number of auxiliary nurses in a team, who could perform the more specific duties required for patients these days, including those being monitored 24/7 with an app - a healthcare assistant.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 13, 2022 9:32:22 GMT 1
Now, now, you know you're not allowed to say anything vaguely positive about the NHS here, least of all the management.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 13, 2022 9:42:09 GMT 1
Now, now, you know you're not allowed to say anything vaguely positive about the NHS here, least of all the management. I also snuck in the timely dig at privatising utilities, whose objectives are to make profits and give the CEO's huge pay envelopes, rather than publicly owned concerns whose obective is to look after the public
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Post by Pilch on Aug 13, 2022 9:42:11 GMT 1
there are approximately 7000 unused beds scattered around the RSH, seems like it anyway
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