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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 4, 2022 11:23:32 GMT 1
I don't understand why this is being presented as a binary choice between Tuffins or Bet365. There are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. We don't 'owe' any ego-puffing logo placement to someone who MAY become chairman. In fact, we don't 'owe' anyone, anything (except perhaps Roland Wycherley, who in any case has got his name up on one of our stands). As long as Mr Delves is paying the going rate, however, all is well. I am just suggesting that a higher financial tier of sponsor could be out there. Why does this concern you so much? It's a free market at the end of the day. I'm sure if Coca Cola or Greggs thought sponsoring lowly Shrewsbury Town of League One was a lucrative business opportunity then they'd blow Tuffins or Shropshire Homes out of the water. But they wouldn't because it isn't. League One football gets barely any exposure - a handful of live games a season or if you're lucky a decent cup run that might bring in a bit of national interest. Because 'Tuffins Supermarkets' is an anagram of 'Firm's Purse Fake Stunt'.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 4, 2022 11:33:31 GMT 1
IThere are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. Are there any clubs at our level who have sponsors which are a national company (which aren't linked to the owners/chairman or linked to the local area)? Yes, several – see the 'Personnel and sponsoring' section of the Wikipedia article here.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 4, 2022 12:30:35 GMT 1
Just so long as "The Knockin Shop" don't come in with a big offer to put their name on the shirts .... We would probably get lots of interest from tv if they did!
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Post by kp on Aug 4, 2022 13:19:59 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want. Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? Tuffins doubled its number of stores to 2 in 2018 when it opened in Welshpool. The original business sold out back in 2012 after reaching a peak of 10 stores. The original family bought one store back in 2013 in Craven Arms. Big Time. I do like these regional supermarkets. Stans anyone? There is a decent one around West Lancashire called Booths. The regional developer has a bit more reach both geographically and financially although the industry is very volatile.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 4, 2022 13:27:33 GMT 1
Not to forget Tuffins in Churchstoke and Machynlleth.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 4, 2022 14:17:57 GMT 1
IThere are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. Are there any clubs at our level who have sponsors which are a national company (which aren't linked to the owners/chairman or linked to the local area)? Yep without looking MK Dons Suzuki ……obviously a more ambitious club than us 👍
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Post by Pilch on Aug 4, 2022 14:23:55 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want. Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? Tuffins doubled its number of stores to 2 in 2018 when it opened in Welshpool. The original business sold out back in 2012 after reaching a peak of 10 stores. The original family bought one store back in 2013 in Craven Arms. Big Time. I do like these regional supermarkets. Stans anyone? There is a decent one around West Lancashire called Booths. The regional developer has a bit more reach both geographically and financially although the industry is very volatile. if i had a business that was able to sponsor the shirt for the town i would think i'd made the big time , and i would be proud of it
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 14:53:54 GMT 1
Are there any clubs at our level who have sponsors which are a national company (which aren't linked to the owners/chairman or linked to the local area)? Yep without looking MK Dons Suzuki ……obviously a more ambitious club than us 👍 Their UK headquarters is Milton Keynes. I'm not disputing there are some, the poster above has posted a link to each club but I'm too lazy to do a google for each club and see if a) they are a nationwide company b) they have links to the owners c) they have links to the town/city
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 4, 2022 15:53:48 GMT 1
Obviously Suzuki have no taste either.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 4, 2022 16:01:11 GMT 1
The Knockin Shop is my local haha.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 4, 2022 16:54:23 GMT 1
Tuffins doubled its number of stores to 2 in 2018 when it opened in Welshpool. The original business sold out back in 2012 after reaching a peak of 10 stores. The original family bought one store back in 2013 in Craven Arms. Big Time. I do like these regional supermarkets. Stans anyone? There is a decent one around West Lancashire called Booths. The regional developer has a bit more reach both geographically and financially although the industry is very volatile. if i had a business that was able to sponsor the shirt for the town i would think i'd made the big time , and i would be proud of it Such an individual would have every right to feel proud, but if a bigger company offering more money is available to sponsor us, that is who the club should be going after.
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Post by Dale on Aug 5, 2022 8:59:18 GMT 1
Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? I think The Energy Check were based in Newcastle when they sponsored our shirts for a couple of seasons, but they also sponsored several other clubs whilst they were sponsoring us, and had a Twitter account dedicated to all the clubs they were sponsoring at the time.
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Post by Dale on Aug 5, 2022 9:00:14 GMT 1
Not to forget Tuffins in Churchstoke and Machynlleth. Tuffins sold their store in Church Stoke to the Co-op, although the main Montgomery Waters business is still based there.
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Post by kp on Aug 5, 2022 11:12:41 GMT 1
Not to forget Tuffins in Churchstoke and Machynlleth. Tuffins themselves seem to have forgotten them so... www.tuffinsonline.co.uk/However despite only having 2 stores they turnover in the region of £20m and made £1m profit last time out so in good shape it seems?
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 5, 2022 12:01:36 GMT 1
Not to forget Tuffins in Churchstoke and Machynlleth. Tuffins themselves seem to have forgotten them so... www.tuffinsonline.co.uk/However despite only having 2 stores they turnover in the region of £20m and made £1m profit last time out so in good shape it seems? I don’t think it is Tuffins. If you go on Google Earth and put the post code in its the garage at Heol y Doll on the way out next to Lloyds Coaches. The signage says new NISA LOCAL STORE with no mention of Tuffins. Google Earth Link
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 8, 2022 16:08:08 GMT 1
Not to forget Tuffins in Churchstoke and Machynlleth. Tuffins themselves seem to have forgotten them so... www.tuffinsonline.co.uk/However despite only having 2 stores they turnover in the region of £20m and made £1m profit last time out so in good shape it seems? Correct they now "own" just Craven Arms, Welshpool and the Water Business
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 9, 2022 12:10:57 GMT 1
Tuffins themselves seem to have forgotten them so... www.tuffinsonline.co.uk/However despite only having 2 stores they turnover in the region of £20m and made £1m profit last time out so in good shape it seems? Correct they now "own" just Craven Arms, Welshpool and the Water Business The fall of the Holy Tuffins Empire!
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Post by Minormorris64 on Aug 9, 2022 12:21:04 GMT 1
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 9, 2022 13:15:26 GMT 1
Either way, one of these retail juggernauts flew too close to the sun!
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