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Post by dazshrewblue on Aug 3, 2022 15:00:10 GMT 1
Noticed at Morecombe Saturday Shropshire homes not Tuffins was the sponsor on the new home shirts,have we missed something?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 3, 2022 15:01:27 GMT 1
Unconfirmed
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Post by spomanager on Aug 3, 2022 15:04:59 GMT 1
I thought because the game was away they made the shirt with the away sponsor on as we don't have an away strip as such. The red strip that was made to play against Cardiff with Shropshire homes on would of clashed!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2022 15:07:45 GMT 1
I read somewhere (twitter) that it's been agreed where the club play away in the home shirt then we will use Shropshire Homes but Tuffins will be used for home matches. This is so there is equal exposure for both companies. If so, it does make sense but no idea if it's true
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Post by dazshrewblue on Aug 3, 2022 15:08:23 GMT 1
I read somewhere (twitter) that it's been agreed where the club play away in the home shirt then we will use Shropshire Homes but Tuffins will be used for home matches. This is so there is equal exposure for both companies. If so, it does make sense but no idea if it's true
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Post by dazshrewblue on Aug 3, 2022 15:10:44 GMT 1
That could be it.Definitley makes sense.
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Post by block12massive on Aug 3, 2022 15:17:10 GMT 1
I read somewhere (twitter) that it's been agreed where the club play away in the home shirt then we will use Shropshire Homes but Tuffins will be used for home matches. This is so there is equal exposure for both companies. If so, it does make sense but no idea if it's true We must be the only club in the 92 that does this surely? Another idea courtesy of Heath Robinson.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 3, 2022 16:37:27 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want.
Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 3, 2022 19:03:56 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want. Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? Point 1 - tax avoidance. Point 2 - think the high ups from these companies are all well thought of by our high ups, hence it's easier to get them to pass on some of their profits rather than a company with no real connection to the club I'm guessing shirt sponsorship costs are quite considerable (no doubt undisclosed!)
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 3, 2022 19:06:38 GMT 1
I read somewhere (twitter) that it's been agreed where the club play away in the home shirt then we will use Shropshire Homes but Tuffins will be used for home matches. This is so there is equal exposure for both companies. If so, it does make sense but no idea if it's true Makes perfect sense so can’t be true 😂
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Post by Pilch on Aug 3, 2022 19:11:37 GMT 1
on the subject of sponsors
some clubs are offering an option for shirts without the logo on , ( mainly those with gambling sponsors )
I wonder how many would prefer that
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 3, 2022 19:13:44 GMT 1
I read somewhere (twitter) that it's been agreed where the club play away in the home shirt then we will use Shropshire Homes but Tuffins will be used for home matches. This is so there is equal exposure for both companies. If so, it does make sense but no idea if it's true We must be the only club in the 92 that does this surely? Another idea courtesy of Heath Robinson. Think about it. Tuffins give a wad of money to get exposure via ‘shirt sponsorship’ Shropshire Homes do the same with away shirt. Both get 23 league games except due to kit delays no away shirts. Id suggest if Shropshire Homes don’t get any exposure they want a refund so simple solution to wear same strip with different sponsors home and away👍 What would you do? Problem comes now with the next two away games as we can’t wear blue so be interesting to see what we wear at Wycombe and Bristol.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 3, 2022 20:01:43 GMT 1
The red presumably.
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Aug 3, 2022 20:11:37 GMT 1
Does that mean we can buy a home shirt with SH on the front ? Not interested in it otherwise I do find the name Tuffins a little embarassing. Probably just me 😅
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Post by gtismygod on Aug 3, 2022 20:17:07 GMT 1
Does that mean we can buy a home shirt with SH in the front ? Not interested in it otherwise I do find the name Tuffins a little embarnassing. Probably just me I’m with you on that. Shropshire Homes is definitely a bit more classy than Tuffins.
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Post by Namur on Aug 3, 2022 22:16:36 GMT 1
Don’t see the issue with having Tuffins on the shirt, it’s an old established company in the region, and it’s good to have the higher-ups inside the tent spitting out.
It’s the same insecurity people had about a Lidl being built next door… lest people from places like Rochdale or Doncaster start taking the mick.
Besides, I know it’s not a binary thing but I’d much rather local sponsors like Tuffins on the shirt than yet another online betting company…
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Post by The Clash 1966 on Aug 4, 2022 8:31:54 GMT 1
Don’t see the issue with having Tuffins on the shirt, it’s an old established company in the region, and it’s good to have the higher-ups inside the tent spitting out. It’s the same insecurity people had about a Lidl being built next door… lest people from places like Rochdale or Doncaster start taking the mick. Besides, I know it’s not a binary thing but I’d much rather local sponsors like Tuffins on the shirt than yet another online betting company… Tuffins would get my vote over a betting company, hardly a family friendly sponsor.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 4, 2022 8:56:37 GMT 1
We must be the only club in the 92 that does this surely? Another idea courtesy of Heath Robinson. Think about it. Tuffins give a wad of money to get exposure via ‘shirt sponsorship’ Shropshire Homes do the same with away shirt. Both get 23 league games except due to kit delays no away shirts. Id suggest if Shropshire Homes don’t get any exposure they want a refund so simple solution to wear same strip with different sponsors home and away👍 What would you do? Problem comes now with the next two away games as we can’t wear blue so be interesting to see what we wear at Wycombe and Bristol. Sponsor undisclosed.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 4, 2022 8:57:45 GMT 1
Tuffins is a locally renowned company with supermarkets in a number of locations, none of which are one-horse-towns - there's at least two horses. They put Churchstoke on the map! The Sunday market became THE destination for a weekend drive from the Midlands, after the decline of Pryce Jones in Newtown as a weekend destination. I don't know why the Tuffins business model never quite made it to (inter)national retail dominance, maybe it was the contraction when they sold some of the branches to the the Co-op? I'd love to see a branch of Tuffins replace the Lidl at MWM. Although Stans Suoerstore could steal a march on them if they had a branch right next to the MWM.
Much better to have an honest local business on the shirt than any company trying to lure people into betting, investment or loans (except, perhaps, a Building Society).
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 4, 2022 9:26:36 GMT 1
Whilst agreeing with your post, I imagine it all comes down to finance. National and multi-National companies can surely throw more cash at sponsorship than a local company with a handful of supermarkets. I am pretty sure that the little non-league club in North Wales are getting much more from Tik-Tok than we are from Tuffins. I guess that if we got to the Championship, with more tv exposure, we would become more attractive to would be sponsors.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 4, 2022 9:41:09 GMT 1
Whilst agreeing with your post, I imagine it all comes down to finance. National and multi-National companies can surely throw more cash at sponsorship than a local company with a handful of supermarkets. I am pretty sure that the little non-league club in North Wales are getting much more from Tik-Tok than we are from Tuffins. I guess that if we got to the Championship, with more tv exposure, we would become more attractive to would be sponsors. Money talks, and it says noney isn't everything, integrity matters. Alhough, looking at who some clubs have as sponsors and what they gain from it, you wouldn't think so.
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Post by block12massive on Aug 4, 2022 9:52:53 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want. Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? As an inhabitant of one of these 'one-horse towns' I'm highly offended by this Sponsorship isn't 'always' about money. If I ran a relatively successful local business, having my company name emblazoned on the front of the shirt of the football club I've supported since I was a child would be an incredible achievement. You've also overlooked the fact that the owner of said business is expected to be the next Town chairman, so the exposure is definitely working. I'd far rather have Tuffins or Shropshire Homes as our sponsor than the latest Chinese betting firm.
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Post by Exkeeper on Aug 4, 2022 10:14:27 GMT 1
Betting firms sponsoring Football clubs will hopefully, soo be a thing of the past.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 10:20:31 GMT 1
Sponsorship is always an interesting subject. Generally fans talk about wanting to be a community club & building links with local businesses etc., however when sponsorship comes up then all of a sudden some want to forget about the local links and want big, national businesses. Of course some of it comes down to money but I suspect a lot of it is simply a superficial thing, look at us we are sponsored by (insert huge company), rather than a local supermarket or local builders.
The reality is most small football clubs are sponsored by local firms and the way that any small football club builds relationships with local businesses is through sponsorship. The only way you might get a nationwide company investing in a club of our size is if they had local links such as big presence/head office in the town, incidentally that reminds me of the time one of our fans was mocking a Telford fan because they had Cap Gemini as a sponsor (not realising that it's quite a big company)
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 4, 2022 10:27:25 GMT 1
If they want to spend their money on sponsoring us, good on them, but does anyone else find it odd that both main sponsors must be paying a premium to be title sponsors, when their services are only available to a tiny, Shropshire-specific audience? It's hard to see what they gain from the national exposure they are (hopefully!) paying for. Tuffins has got about four supermarkets in a variety of one-horse-town locations in Mid Wales, and Shropshire Homes tend to build in... you guessed it, Shropshire. The Tuffins sponsorship is a bit embarrassing – it adds to an unfortunate 'yokel' vibe, which we don't necessarily want. Could we not be attracting more money from a national company (or even a Midlands-based business) now we are a reasonably established third-tier club? As an inhabitant of one of these 'one-horse towns' I'm highly offended by this Sponsorship isn't 'always' about money. If I ran a relatively successful local business, having my company name emblazoned on the front of the shirt of the football club I've supported since I was a child would be an incredible achievement. You've also overlooked the fact that the owner of said business is expected to be the next Town chairman, so the exposure is definitely working. I'd far rather have Tuffins or Shropshire Homes as our sponsor than the latest Chinese betting firm. I don't understand why this is being presented as a binary choice between Tuffins or Bet365. There are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. We don't 'owe' any ego-puffing logo placement to someone who MAY become chairman. In fact, we don't 'owe' anyone, anything (except perhaps Roland Wycherley, who in any case has got his name up on one of our stands). As long as Mr Delves is paying the going rate, however, all is well. I am just suggesting that a higher financial tier of sponsor could be out there.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 4, 2022 10:35:57 GMT 1
Betting firms sponsoring Football clubs will hopefully, soo be a thing of the past. Tell that to the Coates family
At Stoke I should think they would have to adopt/adapt some of the tactics cigarette companies used to use when they couldn't plaster their name everywhere.
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Post by block12massive on Aug 4, 2022 10:38:09 GMT 1
As an inhabitant of one of these 'one-horse towns' I'm highly offended by this Sponsorship isn't 'always' about money. If I ran a relatively successful local business, having my company name emblazoned on the front of the shirt of the football club I've supported since I was a child would be an incredible achievement. You've also overlooked the fact that the owner of said business is expected to be the next Town chairman, so the exposure is definitely working. I'd far rather have Tuffins or Shropshire Homes as our sponsor than the latest Chinese betting firm. I don't understand why this is being presented as a binary choice between Tuffins or Bet365. There are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. We don't 'owe' any ego-puffing logo placement to someone who MAY become chairman. In fact, we don't 'owe' anyone, anything (except perhaps Roland Wycherley, who in any case has got his name up on one of our stands). As long as Mr Delves is paying the going rate, however, all is well. I am just suggesting that a higher financial tier of sponsor could be out there. Why does this concern you so much? It's a free market at the end of the day. I'm sure if Coca Cola or Greggs thought sponsoring lowly Shrewsbury Town of League One was a lucrative business opportunity then they'd blow Tuffins or Shropshire Homes out of the water. But they wouldn't because it isn't. League One football gets barely any exposure - a handful of live games a season or if you're lucky a decent cup run that might bring in a bit of national interest.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 4, 2022 10:42:41 GMT 1
Just so long as "The Knockin Shop" don't come in with a big offer to put their name on the shirts ....
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 4, 2022 10:46:36 GMT 1
As someone who, before moving up here, always shopped at Tuffins and even got on the bus to the Meadow at Tuffins!, I was chuffed o bits when they became part of the club. I like local. Get a big firm in and fine but they will expect something in return. Big firms don’t do owt for nowt.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2022 11:00:25 GMT 1
IThere are literally thousands of national businesses out there, most of which have good ethical standards. Are there any clubs at our level who have sponsors which are a national company (which aren't linked to the owners/chairman or linked to the local area)?
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