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Post by northwestman on Jul 28, 2022 12:03:08 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 28, 2022 12:09:01 GMT 1
the goverment has completely ignored tidal energy, yes it is expensive to set up and will take years to build but unlike the wind it is always there and once built will supply electricity for over 120 years . as well as geothermal energy we have abounded coal mines all over the country many of who could produce geothermal energy either as electricity or to heat houses ( hte southampton scheeme does both) ,the expertise is available for Iceland and the technology has been proven )who produce 66% of there energy this way clean and green. instead we built gas powred stations and we know how that worked out. Boris the clown claims to push a green agenda but he has also ignored them . we have had a sucession of goverments who are incapable of any strategic long term thinking and we are all paying the price. instead we are reliant on privte companies and a council with a vision. xlinks.co/morocco-uk-power-project/ (this project will supply electricity for 7 million homes. these plants are only tiny ,there is a small plant in southampton it provides heating and electricity all credit to the council who pressed ahead with it when the goverment decided not to go ahead with it in the 80's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_District_Energy_Schemewww.thinkgeoenergy.com/four-new-geothermal-projects-announced-for-cornwall-uk/Cornwall is now producing the UK’s first geothermal steam using 175C water extracted a record-breaking 5.1 kilometers underground. The company is signed power and heat agreements in January of this year. Heads of Terms have now been signed on the four new geothermal sites planned for Cornwall, each anticipated to deliver 5 MWe (Mega Watt electrical) of power, 24/7 to the National Grid and 20 MW of heat energy for the local area. The electricity produced from all four power stations will be enough to power 45,000 homes. Each plant will each take around 18 months to complete, with all four sites anticipated to be up and running by 2026.
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Post by shrewder on Jul 28, 2022 12:09:09 GMT 1
If it looks to be a fair chance that these high prices will come to be implemented then that is not really scaremongering.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 28, 2022 12:22:12 GMT 1
the goverment has completely ignored tidal energy, yes it is expensive to set up and will take years to build but unlike the wind it is always there and once built will supply electricity for over 120 years . as well as geothermal energy we have abounded coal mines all over the country many of who could produce geothermal energy either as electricity or to heat houses ( hte southampton scheeme does both) ,the expertise is available for Iceland and the technology has been proven )who produce 66% of there energy this way clean and green. instead we built gas powred stations and we know how that worked out. Boris the clown claims to push a green agenda but he has also ignored them . we have had a sucession of goverments who are incapable of any strategic long term thinking and we are all paying the price. instead we are reliant on privte companies and a council with a vision. xlinks.co/morocco-uk-power-project/ (this project will supply electricity for 7 million homes. these plants are only tiny ,there is a small plant in southampton it provides heating and electricity all credit to the council who pressed ahead with it when the goverment decided not to go ahead with it in the 80's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_District_Energy_Schemewww.thinkgeoenergy.com/four-new-geothermal-projects-announced-for-cornwall-uk/Cornwall is now producing the UK’s first geothermal steam using 175C water extracted a record-breaking 5.1 kilometers underground. The company is signed power and heat agreements in January of this year. Heads of Terms have now been signed on the four new geothermal sites planned for Cornwall, each anticipated to deliver 5 MWe (Mega Watt electrical) of power, 24/7 to the National Grid and 20 MW of heat energy for the local area. The electricity produced from all four power stations will be enough to power 45,000 homes. Each plant will each take around 18 months to complete, with all four sites anticipated to be up and running by 2026. if we actually went ahead with geothermal energy it would give the uk the oportunity to create a new industry and the manufacturing to create jobs.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 28, 2022 12:29:48 GMT 1
UK households could see their energy bills hit £500 for a single month by next year as Putin’s latest gas supply cuts drive up prices across Europe, analysts have warned. A new report from BFY Group predicts that the energy price cap will rise to £3,420 at the next increase in October before surging to £3,850 in the first quarter of 2023. That means average bills for January alone are likely to be above £500. The predictions are even more bleak than recent analysis from Cornwall Insight, which said the energy price cap will hit £3,363 for the first quarter. However, those figures came before the Kremlin slashed gas supplies to Europe even further, driving up prices and fuelling fears of shortages this winter. Gemma Berwick, senior consultant at BFY, said: “Huge swathes of the British public aren't going to be able to afford their bills this winter. Average families with two working parents will be in fuel poverty.” Daily Telegraph. in the same sentence fuel bills could reach £500 in january to being an average of over £500 , and then rises to £1300+ a month , all in the same month let's call it an inflation of scaremongering Don't take too much notice of the exact figures Pilch. It's the scenario: If countries insist on using the same amount of energy they did last winter, it's going to go up because it's in short supply. Worst case, Putin cut's off the gas to the EU, cold winter, they use the same, or even more gas and electric. Our suppliers are allowed to screw us, "our" North sea gas is bought the EU. If we all go Greta, German industry has to go short time, it's a mild winter, we can get some more North sea oil and gas more quickly than expected, there's a recession in demand, then maybe the exact figures won't be so bad. Which path do you think we will take? Will nations just carry on using and pushing up the price of what's available?
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Post by kp on Jul 28, 2022 12:46:04 GMT 1
And you’d have thought we would be maximising growing our own wheat, but haven’t heard anything about getting more land into food production since the war began. Governments have been doing the opposite, paying subsidies to farmers whoallow fields to go fallow. Farmers are under attack like never before.
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Post by kp on Jul 28, 2022 12:48:01 GMT 1
And you’d have thought we would be maximising growing our own wheat, but haven’t heard anything about getting more land into food production since the war began. Who will work these prospective new fields? We can't even pick all the soft fruit we grow, let alone start new food industries. You think wheat production is akin to fruit picking...all those combine harvesters gathering apples!
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 28, 2022 14:00:22 GMT 1
Who will work these prospective new fields? We can't even pick all the soft fruit we grow, let alone start new food industries. You think wheat production is akin to fruit picking...all those combine harvesters gathering apples! Somebody still has to drive the combine harvester. Others have to transport, store, process the grain etc. The point is we already can't find staff for agriculture right now, how does ramping up the requirement solve that problem?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 28, 2022 14:24:40 GMT 1
You think wheat production is akin to fruit picking...all those combine harvesters gathering apples! Somebody still has to drive the combine harvester. Others have to transport, store, process the grain etc. The point is we already can't find staff for agriculture right now, how does ramping up the requirement solve that problem? On the farm side of the labour requirement, tractors and harvesters that do the job more efficiently automatically using GPS are already starting to come in. For example:
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 28, 2022 14:54:01 GMT 1
The point is , with a world shortage of grain, the Govt pays “farmers” to not grow food, but to leave land fallow.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Jul 28, 2022 15:44:30 GMT 1
The point is , with a world shortage of grain, the Govt pays “farmers” to not grow food, but to leave land fallow. and of course just chuck the seed down tomorrow and come monday morning it will be up ?, its that simple
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Post by northwestman on Jul 28, 2022 16:24:14 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jul/28/an-insult-soaring-profits-at-shell-and-centrica-cause-outrageSoaring profits at the energy companies Shell and Centrica have been described as an “insult” to millions of people struggling with the cost of living crisis, with high oil and gas prices funding multibillion-pound rewards for their shareholders. A day after millions of households were warned that average annual energy bills could hit £3,850 from January, triple the level at the beginning of this year, two of the UK’s biggest energy companies sparked outrage with their bumper profits. Shell posted record earnings of $11.4bn (nearly £10bn) for the three-month period from April to June and promised to give shareholders payouts worth £6.5bn. At the same time, Centrica, the owner of British Gas, reinstated its dividend, handing investors £59m, after reporting operating profits of £1.3bn during the first half of 2022.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 28, 2022 18:25:29 GMT 1
Who will work these prospective new fields? We can't even pick all the soft fruit we grow, let alone start new food industries. You think wheat production is akin to fruit picking...all those combine harvesters gathering apples! farming is an industry with a medium to long term plan, most farms no longer have farm workers and are hevily relient on contractors to harvest wheat etc, over the last decade huge numbers of dairy farmers have left the industry due to low prices, i would think after the fiasco with pigs last year they will be next . potato farmers also a big hit during covid lockdowns and soft fruit growers have strugled to get pickers if you wont more home grown wheat etc you actually need a goverment who backs farming. www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/01/uk-pig-industry-warns-butcher-shortage-mass-cull"We think our backlog is in the region of 100,000 to 120,000 as we stand today. And it is growing by around 12,000 a week. This is happening on pig farms all over the country; they are backed up and running out of space to keep animals.” One farmer said they were being told to expect further reductions next week in the number of animals able to be transported, as there were not enough workers at meat-processing plants to handle the loads. “The problem in the industry has got considerably worse over the last three weeks,” said Mutimer. “ involves either shooting them on the farm or taking them to an abattoir and disposing of them in a skip. These animals won’t go into the food chain, they will either be rendered or sent for incineration. It is an absolute travesty.”
a combination of weather conditions and the price of potatoes dropping in half during the lockdown has not helped uk potato farmers
www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/14/uk-potato-farmers-fear-another-washout-for-this-years-crop
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Post by Pilch on Jul 28, 2022 18:32:33 GMT 1
I'm not too bothered to be honest, there is always a decent solution not far away to these problems
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 28, 2022 19:41:10 GMT 1
The point is , with a world shortage of grain, the Govt pays “farmers” to not grow food, but to leave land fallow. and of course just chuck the seed down tomorrow and come monday morning it will be up ?, its that simple Stupid comment. This situation will be with us for ages, and needs some forethought but also urgent action to deal with it.
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Post by salop27 on Jul 28, 2022 21:23:17 GMT 1
Times are changing right before our eyes. What started in 2008 has now raged out of control. The UK needs a new plan yet no politician from any party seems to grasp this or wants to stick their neck out and say so and of course no one's willing to work together.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 28, 2022 21:57:44 GMT 1
Times are changing right before our eyes. What started in 2008 has now raged out of control. The UK needs a new plan yet no politician from any party seems to grasp this or wants to stick their neck out and say so and of course no one's willing to work together. what happened in 2008 that is now out of control ?
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 30, 2022 9:28:20 GMT 1
The future is not scratching around for shale gas, nor new nuclear plants. At least not until we have explored exactly how much geothermal, hydropower and wind resources can do for us.
Iceland gets a huge share of it's electricity from these sources - so much that not all of it is needed, so they have high electricity usage industries to use it up.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 30, 2022 13:58:58 GMT 1
Somebody still has to drive the combine harvester. Others have to transport, store, process the grain etc. The point is we already can't find staff for agriculture right now, how does ramping up the requirement solve that problem? On the farm side of the labour requirement, tractors and harvesters that do the job more efficiently automatically using GPS are already starting to come in. For example:
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yes i saw a film about Hatper adams student working on this
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Post by MetaShrew on Jul 30, 2022 16:00:42 GMT 1
Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's not cheap gas.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 30, 2022 18:22:12 GMT 1
Jumpin' Jack Flash, it's not cheap gas. I got bills, they're multiplying And I'm losing control Price of power they're supplying It's electrifying
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Post by kp on Aug 1, 2022 13:04:34 GMT 1
The point is , with a world shortage of grain, the Govt pays “farmers” to not grow food, but to leave land fallow. I am sure I saw something about this by Arundhati Roy
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 7, 2022 15:57:30 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 7, 2022 16:01:55 GMT 1
all oil firms have recorded record quarter profits ; www.newstatesman.com/chart-of-the-day/2022/05/shell-and-bp-profits-reach-a-record-high"A windfall tax is understood as a one-off levy imposed on companies that have benefited from a situation they weren’t directly responsible for. The Labour Party recently published an analysis of how a windfall tax on North Sea oil and gas operators could potentially raise at least £1.95bn for the Treasury."
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 7, 2022 16:07:51 GMT 1
the uk foreign aid budget is over £11.5 billion some of the scheemes funded by this seem rather odd such as aid to to india of £50 million when they spent £$76.6 billion on defence the third highest in the world, whilst we should help countrys who are strugling it should be reviewd when so many uk people are strugling and the goverment is doing very little to help .
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 16:10:37 GMT 1
i only pay £101 a month for my duel fuel , i sent in my first meter reading since May the other day and had a bit of a shock when the bill came Attachments:
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 7, 2022 16:23:43 GMT 1
the uk foreign aid budget is over £11.5 billion some of the scheemes funded by this seem rather odd such as aid to to india of £50 million when they spent £$76.6 billion on defence the third highest in the world, whilst we should help countrys who are strugling it should be reviewd when so many uk people are strugling and the goverment is doing very little to help . They also have a space programme. Time to cut that aid bill in at least half if not more.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 7, 2022 17:02:25 GMT 1
the uk foreign aid budget is over £11.5 billion some of the scheemes funded by this seem rather odd such as aid to to india of £50 million when they spent £$76.6 billion on defence the third highest in the world, whilst we should help countrys who are strugling it should be reviewd when so many uk people are strugling and the goverment is doing very little to help . They also have a space programme. Time to cut that aid bill in at least half if not more. Best not make too much fuss, think we owe them a lot more from our colonial days.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 7, 2022 17:15:29 GMT 1
the uk foreign aid budget is over £11.5 billion some of the scheemes funded by this seem rather odd such as aid to to india of £50 million when they spent £$76.6 billion on defence the third highest in the world, whilst we should help countrys who are strugling it should be reviewd when so many uk people are strugling and the goverment is doing very little to help . £50M, that's peanuts. They buy our weapons, we want them with us, not cosying up to the damn Ruskies.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 7, 2022 17:31:36 GMT 1
we do we get our £400 ?
i urgently need it 😜
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