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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 8, 2022 19:49:26 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 8, 2022 20:26:29 GMT 1
It's a tough one, because none of us alive are old enough to know a time without them. We're just used to it, I've collected plenty over the years, got some rare ones, but I can see the environmental reason why they may not want to produce. I think most club's actually lose money on them, but that's down to poor planning and printing too many half the time.
If they printed 1000 and numbered them 1/1000 etc and sold out when they sold out they might actually turn a profit.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 8, 2022 20:26:43 GMT 1
I think several have already gone down that route a season or 2 ago after the football league made it no longer a requirement ps when did you last buy a programme ?
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jul 8, 2022 20:35:20 GMT 1
I think several have already gone down that route a season or 2 ago after the football league made it no longer a requirement ps when did you last buy a programme ? About 25 years ago for me, around the last time I bought a newspaper I think.
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jul 8, 2022 21:06:59 GMT 1
Think I've bought a handful in my entire life, five Wembley trips and the MK play off at home and the three Liverpool matches. Can't think of any others. If not enough people buy them it's hardly surprising clubs will stop. Suspect many will move online, as free downloadable programmes, paid for by advertising. Cards on the table, that suits me.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jul 9, 2022 8:33:47 GMT 1
Even though I don't attend that many Town games these days I still don't bother with a match day programme. For me they cost way too much money for what they are. Back in the day they might well have been a good source of information, statistics etc, but all that is now available and easily accessed online. Doesn't suprise me that some might be having a rethink.
I like what we have at the Kickers. It's nowhere near the size of what you see in England but its free and it does the job (and provides a memento of attending a game which I think a lot of fans still want).
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jul 9, 2022 8:56:58 GMT 1
Our programme was absolutely superb when Ian Whitfield produced it. I always bought Juan. I bought the fust Juan last season and I'd read it before the match had even started. I didn't bother again.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 9, 2022 9:00:59 GMT 1
Even though I don't attend that many Town games these days I still don't bother with a match day programme. For me they cost way too much money for what they are. Back in the day they might well have been a good source of information, statistics etc, but all that is now available and easily accessed online. Doesn't suprise me that some might be having a rethink. I like what we have at the Kickers. It's nowhere near the size of what you see in England but its free and it does the job (and provides a memento of attending a game which I think a lot of fans still want). Indeed. A momento of each game that Town play. I've got about 98% of all Town games going back to the mid 50s (and steadily adding the missing games). Definately agree that todays offerings are way too big, bulky and overpriced. Clubs need to reduce this to a slightly better version of a team sheet, maybe just 4 pages of stuff just relevant to the match.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jul 9, 2022 9:44:21 GMT 1
Only buy one for the really big games, not bought a home one since Liverpool Jan 2020. My mum bought some from a charity shop a couple weeks back from this season just gone, they really are s**t, full of adverts and pictures of match action which is on the internet anyway, not too much content. Not worth £3, probably half that.
The club are certainly trying to kill them off.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 9, 2022 10:23:00 GMT 1
I stopped about 10 seasons ago, as I’d buy one, intending to read it at home afterwards, then it seems irrelevant after the game, so I never bothered with it. Also, as others have said you can get most of the information online. Also not really interested in the opposition players, how old they are and their favourite band ( who I won’t have head of anyway), and wha5 their favourite meal is.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jul 9, 2022 10:32:24 GMT 1
I stopped about 10 seasons ago, as I’d buy one, intending to read it at home afterwards, then it seems irrelevant after the game, so I never bothered with it. Also, as others have said you can get most of the information online. Also not really interested in the opposition players, how old they are and their favourite band ( who I won’t have head of anyway), and wha5 their favourite meal is. Quite. I hear Steve Evans likes a pie or two...
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jul 10, 2022 16:21:15 GMT 1
Don't they make a loss? I thought there was a conversation with the media team in the last few years and it was that they either made a loss or very little and the time and effort made into making them wasn't really worth it.
As Stuttgarter says above club websites/social media and the amount of info on players available online, make it a less appealing offer. I do occasionally buy one but more for my dads benefit. Much like newspapers, i assume the demand is largely from the older demographic who have always bought them. Not surprised to see clubs get rid, as i'm sure many others spend less and less time on them.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 10, 2022 16:26:48 GMT 1
I buy one the first match of the season to get to know the squad numbers and that’s it.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2022 16:53:26 GMT 1
I buy one the first match of the season to get to know the squad numbers and that’s it. Here’s a bit of homework before the first game. Save yourself £3 too 👍 (Squad numbers not released yet but watch this space) www.shrewsburytown.com/teams/first-team/
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Post by barrynic on Jul 10, 2022 16:53:28 GMT 1
I buy one the first match of the season to get to know the squad numbers and that’s it. Me too...have not bothered for over 20 years...
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Post by Pilch on Jul 10, 2022 17:13:03 GMT 1
one of the last times I randomly decided to buy one it was at home to Cardiff when the beat us 4-0, I forgot that it was a rearranged game so had a programme months out of date
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Post by shroppygold on Jul 10, 2022 17:22:57 GMT 1
I personally don’t buy one unless it’s a massive game
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2022 17:57:24 GMT 1
They had just gone over to colour when I last bought one...shows how long ago it was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2022 18:13:04 GMT 1
Over the years I've rarely brought one and it was normally left to my Dad to buy one and I'd have a read of it the following day. However in recent years I haven't even bothered doing that even though he would have a programme sitting on the coffee table
It's like a lot of things, you think it's sad to see it go and go all nostalgic but things change and things go out of fashion, that's life.
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Post by Red Rose In Exile on Jul 10, 2022 20:07:19 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Jul 10, 2022 20:17:51 GMT 1
STFC have not done themselves any favours with the serious deterioration in the quality of the programmes in the last couple of seasons.
Certainly not worth £3.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 10, 2022 20:34:33 GMT 1
It's used to be quite decent, it's now not fit for purpose.
2x stapled and folded A4 black and white sheets for a £1 as a memory would serve the purpose, and turn a profit if printed in sensible numbers.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 10, 2022 21:15:36 GMT 1
Times change and from the above comments only a few want one for mainly sentimental reasons.
Download a copy either free or £1 read it at your will, store it if you want to browse in years to come. (Save the joists in the attic)
I gave up 40 years ago.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 10, 2022 21:38:51 GMT 1
Times change and from the above comments only a few want one for mainly sentimental reasons. Download a copy either free or £1 read it at your will, store it if you want to browse in years to come. (Save the joists in the attic) I gave up 40 years ago. I've probably only got 1,000 left now, some rare ones though. I did have every FA Cup Final in mint condition from 1936-2009 (I think 36, maybe 38) but sold them to buy a car.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 10, 2022 23:33:59 GMT 1
It's used to be quite decent, it's now not fit for purpose. 2x stapled and folded A4 black and white sheets for a £1 as a memory would serve the purpose, and turn a profit if printed in sensible numbers. Spot on, that's all that's needed. Strip it back to basics with just a few notes totally relevant to the actual game. But a momento of each game played.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 11, 2022 7:17:24 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the record price is for a Shrewsbury Town programme as a matter of interest?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 11, 2022 8:52:02 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the record price is for a Shrewsbury Town programme as a matter of interest? Not sure, Chris Smith would have had a good idea about that. Probably one of the 50/51 season games. Maybe the last one of the season New Brighton which was their last ever league game. I've seen the Rotherham away L Cup semi final of 60/61 advertised by a dealer for £200. Well out of my price range though I've got the home leg programme which is also fairly collectable I'm told.
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Post by Dale on Jul 11, 2022 23:47:06 GMT 1
Sadly, programmes are on their way out. I was a avid collector until last season, almost to the point where my day would be ruined if I left the ground without obtaining a programme, during the Covid affected season where the club decided not to issue any programmes even for the games with restricted crowds, or even a online version of it as some other clubs did, I then decided it was the right time to call it a day as a STFC programme collector although I will still buy a programme if I am ground hopping at a non league game.
I’d expect to see STFC stop selling programmes in the next five years, they’ll get their way eventually, it’s been downscaled significantly since Ian Whitfield left when we once had one of the best programmes in the entire Football League under his time as editor.
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