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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 16:54:30 GMT 1
Lat few months I've noticed beds are being crammed anywhere. Just dumped in corridors. I usually find one or two blocking the post box preventing access and I have had to climb over or around them , or try and move them. Unsurprisingly the box is usually empty when I finally get to it. Last week I asked a suited guy if he was able to move one of the beds so I could gain access. He was about to oblige until he jumped backwards saying "oh no I'm not touching that, its not been cleaned'. Since then its got worse. For most of this week the whole area has stunk of human excrament from either one or both of the beds in the area. I refused to go near them one day. A member of staff there told me the red sheets are placed on the bed when a patient dies.(not sure if that's correct or not) That one in the pic has been there all week. The Chaplain who's office is right by them said he's had to put up with the smell himself . Apparently the beds are coming out of various wards upstairs. On Thursday, after leaving there I couldn't get the smell from up my nose for hours. What's more the toilet nearby has been out of order for weeks as it keeps overflowing with you know what. YUK Attachments:
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 17:03:51 GMT 1
That does not, in any way, sound like an NHS trust that's operating correctly. Who does "Ofsted" for hospitals, because it sounds like it's time they did a check on the place.
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Post by steviebsalop on Jun 25, 2022 17:11:18 GMT 1
Hi Pilch. I work at the hospital myself. I'm a porter there. Have you spoken to anyone higher up in the hospital to voice your concerns.
I can tell you that the smell would come from the ward, especially where that is situated as some of those patients can't walk to the toilet as it's an orthopaedic ward. So unfortunately they have pads or go on a commode. We can only take any beds away if we have room and have green stickers on. Unfortunately lately we've not had the room to move them to the relevant place.
As for the point about the red sheet. That is utter nonsense and not true.
The red sheet is infact the cover for the bed. It's a spinal bed. So where that is placed is actually 50 yards away from the ward it is needed for. I'm sorry your experiencing those problems.
We are suffering from short staffing at the moment hopefully this will be resolved soon.
I hope this clears things up a little.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 17:17:27 GMT 1
You obviously care steviebsalop. I hope the management care as much and have posts advertised?
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 17:19:02 GMT 1
Hi Pilch. I work at the hospital myself. I'm a porter there. Have you spoken to anyone higher up in the hospital to voice your concerns. I can tell you that the smell would come from the ward, especially where that is situated as some of those patients can't walk to the toilet as it's an orthopaedic ward. So unfortunately they have pads or go on a commode. We can only take any beds away if we have room and have green stickers on. Unfortunately lately we've not had the room to move them to the relevant place. As for the point about the red sheet. That is utter nonsense and not true. The red sheet is infact the cover for the bed. It's a spinal bed. So where that is placed is actually 50 yards away from the ward it is needed for. I'm sorry your experiencing those problems. We are suffering from short staffing at the moment hopefully this will be resolved soon. I hope this clears things up a little. thanks for clearing that up , i did speak to a jacob mound evans last year who made promises but nothing happened , it's not really my job to wander round pouncing on someone who may have nothing to do with it , if you do get chance i'm sure the chaplain will bring you up to speed , i sense he's always very embarrassed on behalf on the nhs and it must be awkward when he has a bereaved family with him after last week when someone had to follow up my refusal and found the disgusting area themselves i hear the box could be scrapped ( it was a dirty bed on Thursday as well as what you say and the toilet ) triple whammy
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Post by steviebsalop on Jun 25, 2022 17:28:51 GMT 1
Hi Pilch. I work at the hospital myself. I'm a porter there. Have you spoken to anyone higher up in the hospital to voice your concerns. I can tell you that the smell would come from the ward, especially where that is situated as some of those patients can't walk to the toilet as it's an orthopaedic ward. So unfortunately they have pads or go on a commode. We can only take any beds away if we have room and have green stickers on. Unfortunately lately we've not had the room to move them to the relevant place. As for the point about the red sheet. That is utter nonsense and not true. The red sheet is infact the cover for the bed. It's a spinal bed. So where that is placed is actually 50 yards away from the ward it is needed for. I'm sorry your experiencing those problems. We are suffering from short staffing at the moment hopefully this will be resolved soon. I hope this clears things up a little. thanks for clearing that up , i did speak to a jacob mound evans last year who made promises but nothing happened , it's not really my job to wander round pouncing on someone who may have nothing to do with it , if you do get chance i'm sure the chaplain will bring you up to speed , i sense he's always very embarrassed on behalf on the nhs and it must be awkward when he has a bereaved family with him after last week when someone had to follow up my refusal i hear the box could be scrapped I agree with you it is embarrassing. I constantly apologise to the public for it. On the smell not alot can be done on that even when the ward doors are shut it still travels far. The bed thing I will try and make sure they aren't in the way of you doing your work and for public use. As you know the hospital is old and storage is very hard to get hold of.I just wondered if you had spoken to anyone. I know it's not your job to do it but sometimes things are done quicker if other than staff mention it. I will bring it up in meeting on Monday. I hope they don't scrap it as I know it is needed.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jun 25, 2022 17:29:28 GMT 1
That does not, in any way, sound like an NHS trust that's operating correctly. Who does "Ofsted" for hospitals, because it sounds like it's time they did a check on the place. The CQC are the inspectorate for hospitals. Think they're well aware of what's going on to be honest. Hasn't really made the news because we've apparently collectively decided we don't care anymore but hospital admissions for covid have been running at 1000+ for days now. Suspect that's got something to do with it plus that whole austerity/recruitment crisis you might have heard about. We've also got the news that west Midlands ambulance service reckons it will collapse around mid August to contend with which also seems to be going largely under the radar (seriously, try not to get sick from about mid July onwards). What would really help now would be a strike brought on my an inflexible government making derisory pay offerings to a critical section if the workforce. That'd be fantastic 👍 All perfectly normal stuff for the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world.
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 25, 2022 17:37:26 GMT 1
That does not, in any way, sound like an NHS trust that's operating correctly. Who does "Ofsted" for hospitals, because it sounds like it's time they did a check on the place. The CQC are the inspectorate for hospitals. Think they're well aware of what's going on to be honest. Hasn't really made the news because we've apparently collectively decided we don't care anymore but hospital admissions for covid have been running at 1000+ for days now. Suspect that's got something to do with it plus that whole austerity/recruitment crisis you might have heard about. We've also got the news that west Midlands ambulance service reckons it will collapse around mid August to contend with which also seems to be going largely under the radar (seriously, try not to get sick from about mid July onwards). What would really help now would be a strike brought on my an inflexible government making derisory pay offerings to a critical section if the workforce. That'd be fantastic 👍 All perfectly normal stuff for the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world. Hospital admissions with Covid. Not for. Important difference
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Post by steviebsalop on Jun 25, 2022 17:37:27 GMT 1
You obviously care steviebsalop. I hope the management care as much and have posts advertised? It's across the trust with vacancies. Covid took alot out of staff and some left I'm afraid. We have interviews soon for Portering so soon we should be staffed to around 90%.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 17:52:13 GMT 1
This is interesting cos actually my wards just 20 foot from there and i walk through that area at least five or six times a day, inc every day last week and I didn’t notice a smell whatsoever.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 18:20:19 GMT 1
This is interesting cos actually my wards just 20 foot from there and i walk through that area at least five or six times a day, inc every day last week and I didn’t notice a smell whatsoever. spoken in true Arsene Wenger style
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jun 25, 2022 19:00:28 GMT 1
Layers of nhs management who need to be streamlined and replaced with front line nurses and staff it would seem…..
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 19:13:55 GMT 1
This is interesting cos actually my wards just 20 foot from there and i walk through that area at least five or six times a day, inc every day last week and I didn’t notice a smell whatsoever. Oh dear, the worry has to be, if you didn't notice the smell, you might be the smell... sure that's not the case though.... Just in case, I recommend Aesop Post-Poo Drops, intended for use after vigorous bathroom activity has occurred.
Do you ever nip out and say hello to the postman by the way? If so, kick him in the groin from me would you
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 19:19:22 GMT 1
Layers of nhs management who need to be streamlined and replaced with front line nurses and staff it would seem….. Why would it seem? They might be short of high calibre management people too.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jun 25, 2022 19:22:23 GMT 1
Layers of nhs management who need to be streamlined and replaced with front line nurses and staff it would seem….. Why would it seem? They miht be short of high calibre management people too. Just going on what I hear from overworked nurses and staff I know personally who work at Shrewsbury hospital……One in particular works far too many hours and always tired.
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Post by kenwood on Jun 25, 2022 19:31:34 GMT 1
Don’t worry, it won’t be long before our NHS is run by American concerns so start to save up for your insurance premiums : Things will be so much better then ! It’s all in Boris’playbook .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 19:31:45 GMT 1
Why would it seem? They miht be short of high calibre management people too. Just going on what I hear from overworked nurses and staff I know personally who work at Shrewsbury hospital……One in particular works far too many hours and always tired. Because they have to, want to or need to?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 19:35:05 GMT 1
Do you ever nip out and say hello to the postman by the way? In truth I’ve never seen that post box emptied! Didn’t actually think it was still in use?
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Post by mcrshrew on Jun 25, 2022 19:55:01 GMT 1
Why would it seem? They miht be short of high calibre management people too. Just going on what I hear from overworked nurses and staff I know personally who work at Shrewsbury hospital……One in particular works far too many hours and always tired. My mother worked there for 35+ years as a high-ranking nurse in the renal unit and spent those 35+ years saying exactly the same thing (too many non-medical people involved). Here's an little example of 'management' strategy (note I do acknowledge the need for management, just not the way it seems to be done there): refusing to spend a few quid on news mugs / cups when the old ones broke / needed replacing and instead just using the plastic disposable ones they already had in. That way, when people's loved ones passed away or they were given devastating news, they were offered a hot drink in a plastic cup, because giving a devastated relative / friend a nice china mug to warm them up was considered a privilege not a right. I would say that's pretty lacking in humanity.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 20:03:21 GMT 1
Just going on what I hear from overworked nurses and staff I know personally who work at Shrewsbury hospital……One in particular works far too many hours and always tired. My mother worked there for 35+ years as a high-ranking nurse in the renal unit and spent those 35+ years saying exactly the same thing (too many non-medical people involved). Here's an little example of 'management' strategy (note I do acknowledge the need for management, just not the way it seems to be done there): refusing to spend a few quid on news mugs / cups when the old ones broke / needed replacing and instead just using the plastic disposable ones they already had in. That way, when people's loved ones passed away or they were given devastating news, they were offered a hot drink in a plastic cup, because giving a devastated relative / friend a nice china mug to warm them up was considered a privilege not a right. I would say that's pretty lacking in humanity. Probably.
But myself, as a shop floor worker, I would have popped into a charity shop and bought some, perhaps making sure "management" were aware of the lengths I had had to go to because of their penny pinching.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 20:27:19 GMT 1
My mother worked there for 35+ years as a high-ranking nurse in the renal unit and spent those 35+ years saying exactly the same thing (too many non-medical people involved). Here's an little example of 'management' strategy (note I do acknowledge the need for management, just not the way it seems to be done there): refusing to spend a few quid on news mugs / cups when the old ones broke / needed replacing and instead just using the plastic disposable ones they already had in. That way, when people's loved ones passed away or they were given devastating news, they were offered a hot drink in a plastic cup, because giving a devastated relative / friend a nice china mug to warm them up was considered a privilege not a right. I would say that's pretty lacking in humanity. Probably.
But myself, as a shop floor worker, I would have popped into a charity shop and bought some, perhaps making sure "management" were aware of the lengths I had had to go to because of their penny pinching.
Ward Managers (like me) have their own budgets and can order / buy just about anything they like for the ward without any challenge up to £1k per item without any further approval. A set of china tea cups wouldn’t even raise an eye brow unless you wanted royal dalton. I’ve cared for “a lot” of bereaved relatives over my 28 years and I’ve never had to give a hot drink in a plastic cup to them. Maybe I’m being Arsen Wenger again😂😂
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 25, 2022 21:08:41 GMT 1
Seems like another example of people having a snapshot of how an organisation works without knowing the real facts or never having actually worked there. I mean let's be honest how many on here seem to think that having watched 90 ninutes (plus injury time) of football every week they can run a football club and also manage it. Opinions and facts getting confused again.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 21:43:09 GMT 1
Seems like another example of people having a snapshot of how an organisation works without knowing the real facts or never having actually worked there. I mean let's be honest how many on here seem to think that having watched 90 ninutes (plus injury time) of football every week they can run a football club and also manage it. Opinions and facts getting confused again. I'm there for between an hour and hour and half per week, every week, have been for years, I get a decent snapshot, in fact I take some, here's one from 18th June when I moved the dirty mattress for access there was a pool of brown liquid under it, it did get cleaned on Thursday afternoon this week after I refused to go near it. I've added a zoomed in clip of it Attachments:
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 25, 2022 22:03:39 GMT 1
Seems like another example of people having a snapshot of how an organisation works without knowing the real facts or never having actually worked there. I mean let's be honest how many on here seem to think that having watched 90 ninutes (plus injury time) of football every week they can run a football club and also manage it. Opinions and facts getting confused again. I'm there for between an hour and hour and half per week, every week, have been for years, I get a decent snapshot, in fact I take some, here's one from 18th June when I moved the dirty mattress for access there was a pool of brown liquid under it, it did get cleaned on Thursday afternoon this week after I refused to go near it. I've added a zoomed in clip of it You are wasted as a postman, should be one of BBC Panorama's investigative reporters.
When the brown liquid hits the fan, send for Pilch!
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 25, 2022 22:04:47 GMT 1
As I said 90 mins every week, well done, not sure what your job is but no doubt we could find fault with it without knowing the true facts.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 22:06:24 GMT 1
As I said 90 mins every week, well done, not sure what your job is but no doubt we could find fault with it without knowing the true facts. you could indeed have a field day, however I felt the need to highlight how disgusting I found the condition of a hospital to be in
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 22:09:33 GMT 1
Seems like another example of people having a snapshot of how an organisation works without knowing the real facts or never having actually worked there. I mean let's be honest how many on here seem to think that having watched 90 ninutes (plus injury time) of football every week they can run a football club and also manage it. Opinions and facts getting confused again. I'm there for between an hour and hour and half per week, every week, have been for years, I get a decent snapshot, in fact I take some, here's one from 18th June when I moved the dirty mattress for access there was a pool of brown liquid under it, it did get cleaned on Thursday afternoon this week after I refused to go near it. I've added a zoomed in clip of it I’m there for between 40-45hrs per week, every week. I have never walked past there and smelled anything like you describe unless it’s been wafting from T&O which it does at times. I know Mervyn the Chaplin very well, I’ll have a chat and see what he says about it. I don’t know what the brown liquid is, coke leaked from the bin perhaps or coffee leaked from a discarded cup. Beds do get left there waiting to be collected. There’s no room on the wards to keep them. We’re not supposed to but what should we do as blocking a corridor on the ward is a fire hazard and the porters are rushed off their feet and prioritise their heavy workload. If it’s not your place to go pulling people up and pointing out the problem, which you’re perfectly entitled to do in fact I’d encourage it, is it really your place to go taking photos and posting them on here?
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jun 25, 2022 22:12:55 GMT 1
As I said 90 mins every week, well done, not sure what your job is but no doubt we could find fault with it without knowing the true facts. you could indeed have a field day, however I felt the need to highlight how disgusting I found the condition of a hospital to be in Which is a fair point but why would you ridicule someone who works there, and maybe does know a little more about what goes on, if you could just take on board their comments. We are not all on here to always play devil's advocate or throw hand grenades in the room.
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 22:14:03 GMT 1
I'm there for between an hour and hour and half per week, every week, have been for years, I get a decent snapshot, in fact I take some, here's one from 18th June when I moved the dirty mattress for access there was a pool of brown liquid under it, it did get cleaned on Thursday afternoon this week after I refused to go near it. I've added a zoomed in clip of it I’m there for between 40-45hrs per week, every week. I have never walked past there and smelled anything like you describe unless it’s been wafting from T&O which it does at times. I know Mervyn the Chaplin very well, I’ll have a chat and see what he says about it. I don’t know what the brown liquid is, coke leaked from the bin perhaps or coffee leaked from a discarded cup. Beds do get left there waiting to be collected. There’s no room on the wards to keep them. We’re not supposed to but what should we do as blocking a corridor on the ward is a fire hazard and the porters are rushed off their feet and priories their heavy workload. If it’s not your place to go pulling people up and pointing out the problem, which you’re perfectly entitled to do in fact I’d encourage it, is it really your place to go taking photos and posting them on here? I did think it was coke or hot chocolate, but the smell was horrible and was reluctant to probe it any further, please do chat to the chaplain and report back what he has to say, he's a lovely chap ps, its always nice to have a choice of 3 pedal bins to choose from
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Post by Pilch on Jun 25, 2022 22:58:25 GMT 1
you could indeed have a field day, however I felt the need to highlight how disgusting I found the condition of a hospital to be in Which is a fair point but why would you ridicule someone who works there, and maybe does know a little more about what goes on, if you could just take on board their comments. We are not all on here to always play devil's advocate or throw hand grenades in the room. I'll start again, due to the continuous blocking of the box I was advised by my boss to fail the collection and only then would something get done about it, I always ignored this and managed to empty the box, last week , I think Wednesday, the smell coming from one bed was unbearable, I phoned my boss who said fail it, a boss then had to go and inspect it and was equally disgusted, so much so it looks like the box could be removed , now it doesn't matter who it is, or where they work , if they try telling me it actually smelt of roses then sorry im going to joke about it , take that onboard , cheers
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