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Post by davycrockett on Jun 20, 2022 14:15:36 GMT 1
You were lucky. If you enter the low emission zone inadvertently (anywhere inside the M25) in the wrong vehicle first ‘reminder’ £500…. Your supposed to pay the £100 charge… no first offence genuine mistake excuse unlike the Dartford crossing that allows 1 ‘I didn’t realise’ Thank you Boris 😩 I really didnt need any excuse to not go to places like London and Birmingham before their charges. You would need to actually pay me to go these days. I was 20 miles out of London !
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 20, 2022 14:17:08 GMT 1
Will there still be an option to buy off the conductor on the train? More expensive to buy on the day i know. Last time I went on a train was for the play-off final against Rotherham, and that was only from Rickmansworth, what a faff that was, couldn't buy two tickets with the same credit card, couldn't pay cash. Ridiculous. I the train from Rickmansworth to Wembley too. No ticket office. You could pay by cash into a machine, but if you did it would cost you double what it would cost by using a contactless card or with an Oyster card - why the hell would I want one of those for 1 day only? Isn’t your debit card contactless?
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Post by northwestman on Jun 20, 2022 14:19:23 GMT 1
I the train from Rickmansworth to Wembley too. No ticket office. You could pay by cash into a machine, but if you did it would cost you double what it would cost by using a contactless card or with an Oyster card - why the hell would I want one of those for 1 day only? Isn’t your debit card contactless? My present one is yes, but the card I had with me in 2018 wasn't.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 20, 2022 14:20:35 GMT 1
But you could have just used the contactless card? You don't need an Oyster? I feel there's a lot of moaning for the sake of moaning here. At the time, I wasn't in possession of a contactless card. That meant I couldn't even buy chicken and chips from one of the outlets at the ground which said 'contactless card only' despite having plenty of cash! I believe that Worcestershire CCC have now gone completely cashless inside the ground. How much longer before Shrewsbury FC do the same? From the sounds of it you’ve got a contactless card now so problem solved.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 20, 2022 14:24:51 GMT 1
But you could have just used the contactless card? You don't need an Oyster? I feel there's a lot of moaning for the sake of moaning here. i see boris got a dig too , no mention of pykes 3 year contract yet though 🤪 Boris introduced the low emission zone when mayor so relevant, don’t think Pyke was involved so irrelevant but you knew that 🤣
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Post by northwestman on Jun 20, 2022 14:29:19 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 20, 2022 14:35:42 GMT 1
Who needs a ticket for the underground? You tap in and out? I'm sorry, but you're just moaning for moaning sake and going on about not having a contactless card in 2018, somehow trying to relate that to a policy that might not even start by 2023 and posting an article from 2014.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 20, 2022 14:37:12 GMT 1
I think some of it comes down to habits and perhaps fear of change. My dad would be the sort who would like to go to the ticket office to ask for times, pay for the ticket there and then receive a physical ticket, he wouldn't like to be forced to do it all online. However i then pointed out that he had a laptop which he used for basic tasks (he did use online banking) and then had a phone with various apps which he used regularly, he was certainly technology literate for basic tasks. But if I told him to do it all via thetrainlin.com (or it's app),, he would have a whinge and inevitably get me to do it. Trouble with me is actually finding things like tickets on my phone when I need them. Still prefer a paper copy. I always take a screen shot just in case. I can find my photo’s 👍
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 20, 2022 15:09:12 GMT 1
I really didnt need any excuse to not go to places like London and Birmingham before their charges. You would need to actually pay me to go these days. I was 20 miles out of London ! Still far too close to the place for me. Hate the whole area around London, far too busy for me. Give me a nice countryside setting any day.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 20, 2022 15:10:10 GMT 1
Trouble with me is actually finding things like tickets on my phone when I need them. Still prefer a paper copy. I always take a screen shot just in case. I can find my photo’s 👍 Good idea, thanks for that. 👍 Now as long as my phone doesnt die....
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Post by Pilch on Jun 20, 2022 15:38:15 GMT 1
i see boris got a dig too , no mention of pykes 3 year contract yet though 🤪 Boris introduced the low emission zone when mayor so relevant, don’t think Pyke was involved so irrelevant but you knew that 🤣 Pyke is a striker could be just the ticket if he can get his career back on track
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jun 20, 2022 16:35:33 GMT 1
I’ve visited plenty of countries in Europe and a few further afield and I’ve never come across a system where it’s online tickets only. As a minimum self service machines should be retained at stations and at least some kind of manned information point at larger stations, even if this role is combined with other manned roles at said station. Don't travel too much out of Stuttgart on the trains but we were in Nuremberg yesterday and this is exactly what we have available here in Germany and I think it works well. You still have a manned information point where you can take your enquires and whilst you can't buy a ticket there, there are always ticket machines nearby and available to do so. In addition we can buy tickets online. I do think its wrong to have only an online option available. Pretty sure not everyone is comfortable with this.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jun 20, 2022 18:13:46 GMT 1
As sad as it is (in some people's eyes) the reality is the reason these businesses are making these sort of changes is because of customer behaviour/demand. A lot of people don't want to queue up, speak to someone, pay cash and get a physical ticket, they want to purchase the ticket via an app on their phone without any human interaction. Of course there are still some who want to do the former but they are a reducing number. Much as I hate to admit it, this is an entirely valid point, and the resultant savings for the TOCs should bring about greater investment. Hopefully! I do agree with you, to a certain extent, but businesses cannot afford to put off even a small percentage who prefer to do business in a different way. I’m not a complete dinosaur but will take my business elsewhere if they don’t make it easy for me to do business with them.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 20, 2022 18:58:31 GMT 1
Much as I hate to admit it, this is an entirely valid point, and the resultant savings for the TOCs should bring about greater investment. Hopefully! I do agree with you, to a certain extent, but businesses cannot afford to put off even a small percentage who prefer to do business in a different way. I’m not a complete dinosaur but will take my business elsewhere if they don’t make it easy for me to do business with them. Me too. Banks had to back down on doing away with cheques. Quite a few older people still use them. I still take quite a few in my business, it's no problem to pay them in using the app on your phone and you get the money on your bank in 2 days. Dont see the problem to take payment this way of the customer wants to pay that way.
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Post by Dale on Jun 22, 2022 19:36:10 GMT 1
Not sure why people assume this is purely an age thing. I haven’t bought a ticket at a station booking office for years, but see plenty of people much younger than me doing so. I think you may be a exception from the norm though Scoot! My mum and dad are regular train travellers (aged 72 and 67), my mum will check train times online now but they’ve not resorted to buying online tickets yet (they’re both still reluctant to buy anything online at the moment)… I did buy their tickets on the train line a few weeks back though as my mum noticed advance ticket offers whilst checking for times… so I did a good turn being the nice son I am
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Jun 22, 2022 20:08:22 GMT 1
Shrewsbury railway station ticket office is usually pretty most of the time, so it needs to be kept open for people who don't like to purchase on-line. It's called 'customer service'. Some High Street banks say they may close because not enough people use them now. I've recently been in Lloyds, HSBC & Santander and they were all very busy. But, alas the people in charge are not going to listen as they want everything to be transacted on-line. I feel really sorry for those people who don't want to rely on technology to organize their lives.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 23, 2022 8:59:22 GMT 1
Not sure why people assume this is purely an age thing. I haven’t bought a ticket at a station booking office for years, but see plenty of people much younger than me doing so. I think you may be a exception from the norm though Scoot! My mum and dad are regular train travellers (aged 72 and 67), my mum will check train times online now but they’ve not resorted to buying online tickets yet (they’re both still reluctant to buy anything online at the moment)… I did buy their tickets on the train line a few weeks back though as my mum noticed advance ticket offers whilst checking for times… so I did a good turn being the nice son I am Not sure about that. I’m 68 rarely travel on train but always buy online why wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t dream of conducting business any other way. How do folk manage simple things like car / house insurance and other bills? still get a piece of paper through the post and have to send a piece of paper back with a cheque pinned to it? Maybe it depend on how you accepted or used technology at work. I had to use computers for the last 20 years of my working life so it makes perfect sense to buy/ conduct business online. Others maybe others didn’t grasp or need technology at work so have avoided them in retirement. can’t think of many of my contemporaries that aren’t the same.
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Post by Dale on Jun 24, 2022 5:58:29 GMT 1
I think you may be a exception from the norm though Scoot! My mum and dad are regular train travellers (aged 72 and 67), my mum will check train times online now but they’ve not resorted to buying online tickets yet (they’re both still reluctant to buy anything online at the moment)… I did buy their tickets on the train line a few weeks back though as my mum noticed advance ticket offers whilst checking for times… so I did a good turn being the nice son I am How do folk manage simple things like car / house insurance and other bills? They probably ask their children to assist them with it! I know my sister helps my folks regarding car insurance etc.
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