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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 26, 2022 18:24:38 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. Totally agree about the British players should be a rule. You've got 0% chance of it happening though, can you imagine the uproar from the big boys if they were restricted like that. Love to see someone try it though π
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Post by Pilch on May 26, 2022 21:16:22 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. exactly , i could single handedly take on a roman army if you give me all the new mods and cons , send me back 2000 years and see how long i last with a sword π
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Post by harboroughshrew on May 27, 2022 8:30:16 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. exactly , i could single handedly take on a roman army if you give me all the new mods and cons , send me back 2000 years and see how long i last with a sword π When I think of the three greatest players who I have had the privilege of seeing play live (George Best, Pele and Bobby Moore) they would surely be up there with Ronaldo, Messi and Van Dijk with the advantages of the modern day training, though George Best might have had to limit his extra-curricular activities!
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Post by harboroughshrew on May 27, 2022 8:43:11 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. Totally agree about the British players should be a rule. You've got 0% chance of it happening though, can you imagine the uproar from the big boys if they were restricted like that. Love to see someone try it though π Sadly I think you are right about the chances of that happening. The overseas stars like Henry and De Bruyne have brought a new dimension to the Premier League and have undoubtedly raised the bar and probably contributed to improvements in the technical ability of the British players who do make it but I just think the balance of numbers is wrong. I think it was Arsenal under Wenger who sometime fielded a team without any British players and, looking at the Champions League final tomorrow, I would guess Liverpool will start with either two or three British players. There are some very good British players in the championship who could do just as good a job as many of the average overseas players in the Premier League.
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Post by block12massive on May 27, 2022 8:52:25 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. I like your suggestion but I think the recent "success" of the England team probably tells you the system is currently working and players are good enough to make it through in a more organic way than enforcing a British player rule. Haven't they tried that before? Wasn't that the summer where after winning the title, City brought in Scott Sinclair and Richard Wright?
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Post by harboroughshrew on May 27, 2022 9:18:40 GMT 1
I think there is not much point in comparing sides from different eras as things like training, tactics, nutrition and the quality of pitches are so different. As already said on this thread no doubt many of the great players of yesteryear would have also among the top players of the current era if they were playing now. As for Saturday's game I think it will not be a disappointment like so many previous finals have been. Real do not seem to do boring and could well find themselves down again before kicking into gear and attempting to make another comeback. I think the Real midfield will struggle at first against Liverpool's high pressing and high tempo game but who would bet against them if they are in touch near the end of the game? I take the point about both sides being multinational - it does take some of the national rivalry away. I would like to see a rule that Premier League sides have to start every game with at least 6 British - qualified players to encourage better progression for British players from the lower leagues and to help the British national teams. I like your suggestion but I think the recent "success" of the England team probably tells you the system is currently working and players are good enough to make it through in a more organic way than enforcing a British player rule. Haven't they tried that before? Wasn't that the summer where after winning the title, City brought in Scott Sinclair and Richard Wright? Yes, the influx of overseas elite players has raised the bar and no doubt contributed to the improved technical ability of the few British players who do make it but premier League squads are also full of pretty average overseas players. If the numbers of these could be restricted it would give more British players a chance. There will always be players who show initial promise but dont make it but at least more will have had the chance to do so. That could increase competition in the England squad - we might even win a trophy!
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