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Post by martinshrew on May 23, 2022 13:22:14 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on May 23, 2022 13:34:40 GMT 1
Begs the question why the authorities were so determined to cover this up.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 14:07:16 GMT 1
The current system is terrible, but then has it ever been good? Go back in decades at a time and you’ll hear horrific stories of abuse of young people in the care system. I don’t think it’s ever worked.
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Post by martinshrew on May 23, 2022 14:48:07 GMT 1
The current system is terrible, but then has it ever been good? Go back in decades at a time and you’ll hear horrific stories of abuse of young people in the care system. I don’t think it’s ever worked. Quite agree, though in the life and times of social media I think the exploitation element is almost worse.
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Post by tdk on May 23, 2022 15:34:06 GMT 1
children who have been through the system, even in safe care homes, would usually have preferred to stay at home and suffer the abuse.
Fostering can be very successful but there are not nearly enough foster parents.
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Post by martinshrew on May 23, 2022 17:12:39 GMT 1
children who have been through the system, even in safe care homes, would usually have preferred to stay at home and suffer the abuse. Fostering can be very successful but there are not nearly enough foster parents. "suffer the abuse" can be so different, there's so many complex issues. Suffering sexual abuse at the hands of a mother/father is far different to a mother/father using drugs, being an alcoholic. It's such a hard one to call. I don't have the answers, I just have hundreds of questions/observations.
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 23, 2022 8:33:16 GMT 1
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Post by block12massive on Jun 23, 2022 11:30:33 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 23, 2022 11:49:56 GMT 1
"at no stage during the report were demographics, background or ethnicity mentioned".
Isn't that as it should be? In the eyes of the law we should all be equal and responsible for our actions.
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 23, 2022 11:55:16 GMT 1
"at no stage during the report were demographics, background or ethnicity mentioned". Isn't that as it should be? In the eyes of the law we should all be equal and responsible for our actions. Should probably work both ways.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 23, 2022 12:19:23 GMT 1
"at no stage during the report were demographics, background or ethnicity mentioned". Isn't that as it should be? In the eyes of the law we should all be equal and responsible for our actions. Should probably work both ways. Sorry, but what on earth does that mean?
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Post by martinshrew on Jun 23, 2022 13:16:30 GMT 1
Should probably work both ways. Sorry, but what on earth does that mean? I don't think it's difficult to work out. The cries of a white cop killing a black man still ring in many people's ears, by your logic it should've been reported as a cop killing a civilian.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jun 23, 2022 13:25:39 GMT 1
Sorry, but what on earth does that mean? I don't think it's difficult to work out. The cries of a white cop killing a black man still ring in many people's ears, by your logic it should've been reported as a cop killing a civilian. That's Yankee land talk and they are welcome to it.
In Great Britain, a typical headline for this sort of thing is "Man shot dead by cops near Kensington Palace after entering bank and bookmakers with gun" - The Sun.
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Post by welshshrew on Jun 24, 2022 12:14:40 GMT 1
Is that correct Martin any more than saying there is a massive link between white men and the contempt they hold for young children? There is certainly proportionally a link between race and grooming of vulnerable youngsters. Evidence backs that up. But it also backs up the link between race (ie white men) and organised sexual interest in children.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jun 24, 2022 14:06:50 GMT 1
the Big issue had a an article in it with former user of the service coming up with a sensible action plan. when i worked with adult mental health services i used to work with a number of adults who had been in care or fostering, the lack of transistion, lack of support and how ill prepared they were to live independently plus the psychological issues from social care, some of which was avoidable with the right systems in place .
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Post by neilsalop on Jun 24, 2022 21:41:38 GMT 1
We know a couple who have recently taken to fostering. Their first placement of two boys went so well that the council are using the handover to the adoptive parents as a benchmark for future handovers.
Fast forward a few weeks and a mother of the two children on the second placement still had parental responsibility, but is in hospital and had no one to look after her kids. They were placed with our neighbours and were taken every single day to the hospital to see their mother. The mother was insisting that they were to visit for a minimum of three hours a day.
After a couple of weeks of this they said that it was too much and more importantly too distressing for the kids, so wanted to cut it down to every other day and just for an hour or so. She wasn't having that and complained to social services. They actually backed up the foster carers.
At the weekend both I and the missus were chatting and interacting with the kids over the garden fence and they were both as happy as we'd seen them. Strangely social services the kids away on Wednesday with no real explanation, but this morning there was a Facebook post forwarded to us by someone who knows both us and the mother. She was not only accusing our neighbours of beating the kids, but was naming them and posting their Facebook pages for all to see.
Now we have known this couple for many years and know for a fact that they are not capable of beating children, in fact most weekends they have nieces and nephews visiting and often staying over.
I understand that social services have to do everything by the book and were right to move the kids, but that doesn't mean that it's fair. This couple have given up so much time and effort to become foster carers and one mother who didn't get her own way is set to ruin everything for them and any further potential kids that need fostering. What's worse is that all this is down to spite.
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