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Post by zenfootball2 on May 20, 2022 13:58:13 GMT 1
I know there are some wonderfull staff in both hospitals and the staff work increadbly hard under very difficult curcumstances with no respit But the ink has hardly dried on the daming report into baby deaths and then this ; www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2022/05/21/what-on-earth-is-going-wrong---nhs-campaigner-criticises-hospitals-trust-after-13-million-deaths-fine/"An NHS campaigner described the actions that led to the deaths of two patients and a hospitals trust being fined £1.3 million "profoundly depressing SaTH was prosecuted and was fined £1.3 million. What on earth is going wrong in our hospitals?" She added: "Two things stand out. One is staff shortages – and related to that, a lack of the funding that’s needed to provide properly staffed services. With enough staff on duty, then the kind of horror stories revealed in court are less likely to happen."
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Post by servernaside on May 20, 2022 14:35:08 GMT 1
Typical response from anyone in the NHS. Any shortcomings are blamed upon either staff shortages or lack of funding.
At no time does anyone in the NHS ever take responsibility. Finger pointing extraordinaire.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 20, 2022 15:50:58 GMT 1
That's £1.3 million less available for patient care. Maybe they should wind-uo Shrewsbury and Telford trust and run it directly or by a trust with a better record (that wouldn't be difficult). Or just put Matron in charge - someone who understands and would put patient care first.
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Post by block12massive on May 20, 2022 16:05:47 GMT 1
Or just put Matron in charge - someone who understands and would put patient care first. Who are you making head of state for the new united Irish republic? Frankwellshrew? Kenwood? Venceremos? Other?
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Post by staffordshrew on May 20, 2022 17:05:39 GMT 1
Or just put Matron in charge - someone who understands and would put patient care first. Who are you making head of state for the new united Irish republic? Frankwellshrew? Kenwood? Venceremos? Other? Don't you have a sense of humour? Don't you ever speculate, put forward a curve ball idea?
Let's face it, from past performance, S and T health trust appears to need people with their finger "on the pulse".
Head of the thought police: block12massive.
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 20, 2022 17:37:30 GMT 1
Acording to Google she is still CEO whilst the Issues with the Babies has been obne spaning a number of years both of this happened whilst she has been in charge ,there is somthing badly wrong with the trust ,how it is run and clear trainning issues. unfortently the whole of the NHS has staffing issues across all professions. this article was dated October 2019 www.shropshirestar.com/news/health/2019/10/17/new-chief-executive-appointed-for-shropshire-hospitals/"Louise Barnett will start at The Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust (SaTH), which runs the Royal Shrewsbury Hospital (RSH) and the Princess Royal Hospital (PRH) in Telford in February. Louise is currently the chief executive at The Rotherham NHS Foundation Trust, having joined them as interim chief executive in October 2013, prior to being appointed to the substantive position in April 2014. She has previously held a number of NHS board positions, including interim chief executive, and director of human resources and organisational development at Peterborough and Stamford Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust and non-executive director at Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Ben Reid, SaTH Chair, said: “Louise’s impressive track record of leadership and stakeholder engagement, along with her values and commitment to patients and staff, will provide inspirational leadership to the Trust. “I look forward to working with Louise and I am sure she will receive a warm welcome and support from teams across the Trust when she starts with us.” Louise said: “I am delighted to be taking on the role as Chief Executive and looking forward to working with staff and stakeholders to provide high-quality care and services for the local population.”
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Post by northwestman on May 20, 2022 18:50:36 GMT 1
She got out of Rotherham just in time it would seem! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-58719748“Louise’s impressive track record of leadership and stakeholder engagement, along with her values and commitment to patients and staff, will provide inspirational leadership to the Trust". Hmmm. No doubt Paula Vennells was appointed CEO of the Post Office with similar glowing testimonials. We all know how that turned out.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2022 20:53:00 GMT 1
Typical response from anyone in the NHS. Any shortcomings are blamed upon either staff shortages or lack of funding. At no time does anyone in the NHS ever take responsibility. Finger pointing extraordinaire. Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner. Typical response from an ignorant ****wit!
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Post by Pilch on May 20, 2022 23:42:32 GMT 1
Who are you making head of state for the new united Irish republic? Frankwellshrew? Kenwood? Venceremos? Other? Don't you have a sense of humour? Don't you ever speculate, put forward a curve ball idea?
Let's face it, from past performance, S and T health trust appears to need people with their finger "on the pulse".
Head of the thought police: block12massive. humour isn't allowed on blue and amber, the killjoys will gang up and have at go at you for succeeding at something they regularly fail at , humour
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Post by staffordshrew on May 21, 2022 11:07:53 GMT 1
Don't you have a sense of humour? Don't you ever speculate, put forward a curve ball idea? Let's face it, from past performance, S and T health trust appears to need people with their finger "on the pulse".
Head of the thought police: block12massive. humour isn't allowed on blue and amber, the killjoys will gang up and have at go at you for succeeding at something they regularly fail at , humour To me it doesn't really matter if anyone's attempt at humour falls on deaf ears. Nor does it matter if there is disagreement with a poster's views expressed. It's the response that matters; perhaps posters could express their own views in response, rather than just belittling the original post.
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Post by servernaside on May 21, 2022 11:16:11 GMT 1
Typical response from anyone in the NHS. Any shortcomings are blamed upon either staff shortages or lack of funding. At no time does anyone in the NHS ever take responsibility. Finger pointing extraordinaire. Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner. Typical response from an ignorant ****wit! A timely reminder that your default position of hurling obscene insults remains undiminished. What a pleasant fellow you must be.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 21, 2022 11:32:14 GMT 1
Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner. Typical response from an ignorant ****wit! A timely reminder that your default position of hurling obscene insults remains undiminished. What a pleasant fellow you must be. Maybe Matron is an under pressure frontline NHS worker, but to some extent, for me, his post does go too far.
A response of "Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner" would have been sufficient - leaving those reading his response to draw their own conclusions .
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 11:42:12 GMT 1
Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner. Typical response from an ignorant ****wit! A timely reminder that your default position of hurling obscene insults remains undiminished. What a pleasant fellow you must be. A timely reminder that you were wrong and are now looking a bit silly? 😂
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 11:46:15 GMT 1
A timely reminder that your default position of hurling obscene insults remains undiminished. What a pleasant fellow you must be. Maybe Matron is an under pressure frontline NHS worker, but to some extent, for me, his post does go too far.
A response of "Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner" would have been sufficient - leaving those reading his response to draw their own conclusions . Nothing to do with being under pressure. My job is my job. It is what it is. My frustration often gets the better of me when I’m faced with people who literally have no idea what the hell they are talking about when spouting off their bile about the NHS. My apologies to anyone offended. I’ll try harder to reign it in if those idiots amongst us could reign in their ignorant bigoted views a little 👍
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 21, 2022 13:16:57 GMT 1
as a former RMN and having spent nearly 40 years in the NHS such incidents do make me sad,but unfortently such things do happen and they are not unique to the NHS let us truly hope lessons have been learnt and let us also think about all the hard working and excellent staff who are there for us when we are at our most vunerable.
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Post by northwestman on May 21, 2022 14:31:07 GMT 1
as a former RMN and having spent nearly 40 years in the NHS such incidents do make me sad,but unfortently such things do happen and they are not unique to the NHS let us truly hope lessons have been learnt and let us also think about all the hard working and excellent staff who are there for us when we are at our most vunerable. 'lessons have been learnt'. A phrase seriously overused by NHS, Social Services, the Police and probably even Boris Johnson. Totally meaningless. They never are.
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Post by martinshrew on May 21, 2022 14:37:11 GMT 1
Maybe Matron is an under pressure frontline NHS worker, but to some extent, for me, his post does go too far.
A response of "Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner" would have been sufficient - leaving those reading his response to draw their own conclusions . Nothing to do with being under pressure. My job is my job. It is what it is. My frustration often gets the better of me when I’m faced with people who literally have no idea what the hell they are talking about when spouting off their bile about the NHS. My apologies to anyone offended. I’ll try harder to reign it in if those idiots amongst us could reign in their ignorant bigoted views a little 👍 I do think he made a valid point about accountability, probably just came across too strong. I agree with him there's rarely a simple "Sorry, we were wrong" ... It's usually followed with "because the government have killed our funding" or "because we have no staff"; there tends to always be a 'but'. I think everyone on here knows/can tell you do a great job whether they've crossed paths with you professionally or not.
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Post by servernaside on May 21, 2022 18:56:27 GMT 1
Maybe Matron is an under pressure frontline NHS worker, but to some extent, for me, his post does go too far.
A response of "Gill George isn’t “in” the NHS. She’s an NHS campaigner" would have been sufficient - leaving those reading his response to draw their own conclusions . Nothing to do with being under pressure. My job is my job. It is what it is. My frustration often gets the better of me when I’m faced with people who literally have no idea what the hell they are talking about when spouting off their bile about the NHS. My apologies to anyone offended. I’ll try harder to reign it in if those idiots amongst us could reign in their ignorant bigoted views a little 👍 Even your 'apology / explanation' is laced with insults. You just can't help yourself can you?
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2022 20:02:11 GMT 1
Nothing to do with being under pressure. My job is my job. It is what it is. My frustration often gets the better of me when I’m faced with people who literally have no idea what the hell they are talking about when spouting off their bile about the NHS. My apologies to anyone offended. I’ll try harder to reign it in if those idiots amongst us could reign in their ignorant bigoted views a little 👍 Even your 'apology / explanation' is laced with insults. You just can't help yourself can you? Only an insult if you have ignorant bigoted views, and as they say, if the cap fits🤔
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Post by kenwood on May 21, 2022 21:14:48 GMT 1
Even your 'apology / explanation' is laced with insults. You just can't help yourself can you? Only an insult if you have ignorant bigoted views, and as they say, if the cap fits🤔 That’s it Matron, give him a taste of your famous “ bedside manner “ why don’t you. 😂😂😂😉👍
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Post by staffordshrew on May 21, 2022 23:58:02 GMT 1
Only an insult if you have ignorant bigoted views, and as they say, if the cap fits🤔 That’s it Matron, give him a taste of your famous “ bedside manner “ why don’t you. 😂😂😂😉👍 Listen chum, if you want couth, go private
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 22, 2022 8:35:55 GMT 1
as a former RMN and having spent nearly 40 years in the NHS such incidents do make me sad,but unfortently such things do happen and they are not unique to the NHS let us truly hope lessons have been learnt and let us also think about all the hard working and excellent staff who are there for us when we are at our most vunerable. 'lessons have been learnt'. A phrase seriously overused by NHS, Social Services, the Police and probably even Boris Johnson. Totally meaningless. They never are. i agree it is but the question that needs to be asked is why not ?
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Post by servernaside on May 23, 2022 10:26:37 GMT 1
Even your 'apology / explanation' is laced with insults. You just can't help yourself can you? Only an insult if you have ignorant bigoted views, and as they say, if the cap fits🤔 I think ignorance, bigotry and the use of insulting language in the absence of any cogent argument fits you perfectly. The cap certainly fits you, my friend.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 23, 2022 10:43:33 GMT 1
Only an insult if you have ignorant bigoted views, and as they say, if the cap fits🤔 I think ignorance, bigotry and the use of insulting language in the absence of any cogent argument fits you perfectly. The cap certainly fits you, my friend. So the "handbags" goes on...
Or is two kids in the playground more appropriate, I can't decide?
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 23, 2022 11:57:46 GMT 1
i know the NHS can bring up passionate views but cant we be civil with each other when we dicuss alternate view points, i feel it is a shame that so many threads on Blue and Amber just seem to descend into verball handbags , cant we just agree to disagree without wanting to have the final word or put down.
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Post by block12massive on May 23, 2022 12:22:48 GMT 1
Can tell the football season's ended can't you
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Post by servernaside on May 23, 2022 13:42:40 GMT 1
I think ignorance, bigotry and the use of insulting language in the absence of any cogent argument fits you perfectly. The cap certainly fits you, my friend. So the "handbags" goes on...
Or is two kids in the playground more appropriate, I can't decide?
I intend to say nothing further to that odious individual.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 14:00:22 GMT 1
I think ignorance, bigotry and the use of insulting language in the absence of any cogent argument fits you perfectly. The cap certainly fits you, my friend. So the "handbags" goes on...
Or is two kids in the playground more appropriate, I can't decide?
I intend to say nothing further to that repugnant individual!
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Post by staffordshrew on May 23, 2022 19:11:28 GMT 1
I intend to have the two replies from Severnaside and Matron framed. I had them down as two intelligent, but somewhat misguided in their political views, individuals. How wrong can you be?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 20:14:40 GMT 1
I intend to have the two replies from Severnaside and Matron framed. I had them down as two intelligent, but somewhat misguided in their political views, individuals. How wrong can you be?
I’m guessing you don’t mean my political views arnt misguided??
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