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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 12:24:04 GMT 1
And they wonder why they're the most hated fanbase in the UK. They've booed GSTQ before. Hardly a surprise. Though their warped justification seems to centre on the hatred of one ex PM and/or one political party. Disrespecting the armed forces and 'Abide with me' - the hymn that is played at funerals up and down the land is shocking even by their standards. The absence of any widespread criticism is astonishing. Let's remember the outrage when City fans booed the minutes silence for Hillsborough. Are the two comparable? Some may argue not but given that 'Abide with me' is sacred to so many people I would say it probably is. Ashamed of nothing. Offended by everything. Come on City. Hala Madrid. The irony of “offended by everything” 😂😂😂 Would this thread even exist if Chelsea won? Have you stopped crying yet? Of course this thread wouldn’t exist had Chelsea won , you plastic scousers would have wrecked it and had it moved like you normally do when a thread is started about Liverpool losing The dodgy post room is full of them Sad but true 😎
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 12:27:46 GMT 1
The irony of “offended by everything” 😂😂😂 Would this thread even exist if Chelsea won? Have you stopped crying yet? Of course this thread wouldn’t exist had Chelsea won , you plastic scousers would have wrecked it and had it moved like you normally do when a thread is started about Liverpool losing The dodgy post room is full of them Sad but true 😎 Speaking of things moving, isn’t 16th May the day you usually throw a tantrum and rage quit the board? 😎
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 12:38:30 GMT 1
Of course this thread wouldn’t exist had Chelsea won , you plastic scousers would have wrecked it and had it moved like you normally do when a thread is started about Liverpool losing The dodgy post room is full of them Sad but true 😎 Speaking of things moving, isn’t 16th May the day you usually throw a tantrum and rage quit the board? 😎 I’m so glad you brought that up , i joked about wba beating Liverpool and it’s turned nasty and the scouse bullies arrived with personal jibes so I left , backfired on you lot as 10 minutes later Alice in wanderland scored and I’d already gone had she not scored that thread would have been moved too I rest my case 😎
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Post by sheltonsalopian on May 16, 2022 12:40:34 GMT 1
Would've made more sense if they were boo'ing GSTQ and not abide with me but can't say I'm particularly surprised. Anything to wind up daily mail readers is ok in my book though. Funny because I've seen the story reported in pretty much every one of the mainstream papers. As well as the fact it was trending on twitter and was quite a big talking point in general. But yeah, the 'Daily Maiwwwlll' Daily Mail readers, not reporters. God knows what you meant on your last line.
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 12:47:45 GMT 1
Speaking of things moving, isn’t 16th May the day you usually throw a tantrum and rage quit the board? 😎 I’m so glad you brought that up , i joked about wba beating Liverpool and it’s turned nasty and the scouse bullies arrived with personal jibes so I left , backfired on you lot as 10 minutes later Alice in wanderland scored and I’d already gone had she not scored that thread would have been moved too I rest my case 😎 Bizarre take on events - there was me thinking only Liverpool fans had a victim mentality too 🤔
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 12:50:59 GMT 1
I’m so glad you brought that up , i joked about wba beating Liverpool and it’s turned nasty and the scouse bullies arrived with personal jibes so I left , backfired on you lot as 10 minutes later Alice in wanderland scored and I’d already gone had she not scored that thread would have been moved too I rest my case 😎 Bizarre take on events - there was me thinking only Liverpool fans had a victim mentality too 🤔 I sense you are wanting this thread moved so are getting personal dont worry the scousehold cavalry will be here soon to help out Yawn
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 16, 2022 13:21:12 GMT 1
Speaking of things moving, isn’t 16th May the day you usually throw a tantrum and rage quit the board? 😎 I’m so glad you brought that up , i joked about wba beating Liverpool and it’s turned nasty and the scouse bullies arrived with personal jibes so I left , backfired on you lot as 10 minutes later Alice in wanderland scored and I’d already gone had she not scored that thread would have been moved too I rest my case 😎 That VAR thread was classic B&A. It was like sitting through a really crap film but getting rewarded with a memorable ending. I’ve just had a re-read, most amusing. blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101139/var-again?page=10God save the Queen.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 13:42:47 GMT 1
It's coming to something when some Liverpool fans feel the need to boo the traditional and beautiful cup final hymn, Abide with Me. A very sad state of affairs, they should (but of course wont) hang their heads in shame.
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 14:50:44 GMT 1
I’m so glad you brought that up , i joked about wba beating Liverpool and it’s turned nasty and the scouse bullies arrived with personal jibes so I left , backfired on you lot as 10 minutes later Alice in wanderland scored and I’d already gone had she not scored that thread would have been moved too I rest my case 😎 That VAR thread was classic B&A. It was like sitting through a really crap film but getting rewarded with a memorable ending. I’ve just had a re-read, most amusing. blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/101139/var-again?page=10God save the Queen. bro text you did he to give him a hand on B&A ?
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 15:00:42 GMT 1
bro text you did he to give him a hand on B&A ? if you want to play games bring it on lets remind you of your first attempt at banter involving Liverpool on blue and amber , over a decade ago. it was ambling along quietly until you arrived with some sour grapes and an unlimited supply of dummies to spit out to kill the thread stone dead after they lost you've not got any better since blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/70693/man-united-liverpool-who-win
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 16, 2022 15:21:58 GMT 1
bro text you did he to give him a hand on B&A ? if you want to play games bring it on lets remind you of your first attempt at banter involving Liverpool on blue and amber , over a decade ago. it was ambling along quietly until you arrived with some sour grapes and an unlimited supply of dummies to spit out to kill the thread stone dead after they lost you've not got any better since blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/70693/man-united-liverpool-who-winIs this the part now where I’m supposed to reply so you can go on about the plastic scousers hijacking threads with personal abuse?
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 15:27:51 GMT 1
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 16:30:27 GMT 1
It shouldnt be a surprise about booing the anthem/William although booing a hymn is a new one! For a while now there has been hostility from many Liverpool fans towards the ruling classes and that's grown stronger, they feel like theve been s**t on by this country and the 'Scouse not English' shout is one you hear more and more of. To an extent I can understand it, they of course were treated badly under Thatcher and they feel like they've never had justice from Hillsborough. But what I will point out to some of their fans is they aren't unique in this country, most regions have been s**t on by the government at some point. Perhaps we should applaud them for not simply accepting it like the majority do, however like I said them being treated badly by a gov't is not just a Liverpool thing. On a similar line they will use some of the songs sung about how they are victimised, the 'Feed the Scousers...', that's just football fans being football fans taking an old lazy stereotype and doing it to wind up an opposition, I've heard it being sung about lots of other clubs. I'm not saying it's right but it's certainly proof of a vendetta against Liverpool. The problem you've got now is we are stuck in a cycle of Liverpool fans doing something like booing the anthem, the country gets outraged, many share stuff like 'typical scousers', Liverpool fans go into siege mentality & feel targeted by the rest of the nation, they boo the anthem next time round (and repeat). One other thing I point out is the hypocrisy, this whole 'we aren't English' and 'we hate the monarchy/establishment' goes out of the window when a player doesn't get selected for England or a former legend isn't knighted. The outrage there is normally entertaining. It's a mistake to think this is just a Liverpool thing. There's been a Republic of Mancunia banner at Old Trafford for many years. I'm not sure how you're equating wanting a club's players to be selected for England with support for the monarchy/establishment. That's a new one on me. In any case, a lot of supporters are only interested in their club and aren't that bothered about who plays for England - they'd prefer their players to be rested. All that anti-establishment sentiment so lauded by brexiteers when they thought it was directed against the EU and the 'Westminster elite' hasn't gone away. It's just that the monarchy and the government epitomise the establishment in the eyes of many of us. It'd be weird to think otherwise. The funny thing is it probably wasn't a particularly serious protest at the time, but the manufactured outrage it triggered has turned it into something much bigger. Priceless.
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 16:33:47 GMT 1
Would've made more sense if they were boo'ing GSTQ and not abide with me but can't say I'm particularly surprised. Anything to wind up daily mail readers is ok in my book though. But yeah, the 'Daily Maiwwwlll' Oh dear, that really doesn't work. Terrible effort.
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 16:37:40 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. Another forelock-tugging-before-the-golden-throne cap-doffer. Make up your mind, Britain or England? They're not the same place. Have you turned into Michael Gove?
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 16:38:47 GMT 1
Also worth remembering the way some of their fans tried lecturing us for the behaviour of one idiot when we played up there this season. that's a good point, maybe we should bump up some of those hateful lectures they gave us earlier in the season and contact their club to see if they will put out a statement like we did it would have been main news all day if songs were sung about them I must have missed the bit where the booing killed people. RIP
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Post by block12massive on May 16, 2022 16:46:58 GMT 1
But yeah, the 'Daily Maiwwwlll' Oh dear, that really doesn't work. Terrible effort. You might recognise yourself on here to be fair.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 16, 2022 17:23:56 GMT 1
Well done Venceremos for steering the thread back on topic and proving you can post about a team you dislike without resorting to hate filled bile.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 16, 2022 17:44:37 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. Another forelock-tugging-before-the-golden-throne cap-doffer. Make up your mind, Britain or England? They're not the same place. Have you turned into Michael Gove? Scouse gits! Are you one too? Gawd bless Her Majesty.
It's England that provides the most taxpayer's money, Britain that spends it.
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Post by shrewsace on May 16, 2022 17:51:41 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. It would be a strange country indeed if it withheld funds from deprived areas because some football fans weren't sufficiently polite.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 16, 2022 17:55:23 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. It would be a strange country indeed if it withheld funds from deprived areas because some football fans weren't sufficiently polite. With Boris in charge and Gove dishing it out, anything is possible.
Since Liverpool don't have a big Conservative following they may not even count as a deprived area...
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Post by Pilch on May 16, 2022 18:07:18 GMT 1
Well done Venceremos for steering the thread back on topic and proving you can post about a team you dislike without resorting to hate filled bile. yeah I noticed that too, shame you used it as an opportunity to take the thread back off topic to dish another sad snipe out, I can do that do and there we are back again, well done
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Post by shrewsace on May 16, 2022 18:09:55 GMT 1
It would be a strange country indeed if it withheld funds from deprived areas because some football fans weren't sufficiently polite. With Boris in charge and Gove dishing it out, anything is possible.
Since Liverpool don't have a big Conservative following they may not even count as a deprived area... I'm fully aware of the debate around levelling up monies and the alleged favouring of Tory marginals. You may recall Andrew Marr grilling former communities secretary Robert Jenrick some time back. But if these booing fans live in deprived areas, why should they - or rather their elected representatives - not be first in the queue?
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Post by staffordshrew on May 16, 2022 18:20:22 GMT 1
With Boris in charge and Gove dishing it out, anything is possible.
Since Liverpool don't have a big Conservative following they may not even count as a deprived area... I'm fully aware of the debate around levelling up monies and the alleged favouring of Tory marginals. You may recall Andrew Marr grilling former communities secretary Robert Jenrick some time back. But if these booing fans live in deprived areas, why should they - or rather their elected representatives - not be first in the queue? If they want to be scouse, not English, then let them eat cake - especially if it's on Bogoff with all the other unhealthy foods that the Tories are hoping will keep the downtrodden alive.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 18:24:10 GMT 1
It shouldnt be a surprise about booing the anthem/William although booing a hymn is a new one! For a while now there has been hostility from many Liverpool fans towards the ruling classes and that's grown stronger, they feel like theve been s**t on by this country and the 'Scouse not English' shout is one you hear more and more of. It's a mistake to think this is just a Liverpool thing. There's been a Republic of Mancunia banner at Old Trafford for many years. I'm not sure how you're equating wanting a club's players to be selected for England with support for the monarchy/establishment. That's a new one on me. In any case, a lot of supporters are only interested in their club and aren't that bothered about who plays for England - they'd prefer their players to be rested. All that anti-establishment sentiment so lauded by brexiteers when they thought it was directed against the EU and the 'Westminster elite' hasn't gone away. It's just that the monarchy and the government epitomise the establishment in the eyes of many of us. It'd be weird to think otherwise. The funny thing is it probably wasn't a particularly serious protest at the time, but the manufactured outrage it triggered has turned it into something much bigger. Priceless. I'm well aware that it's not just a Liverpool thing, which is why I question Liverpool fans who try and rant about how the Tories/England treats them like they are this small corner of the country who are treated as outcasts. Like i say they are certainly not alone in being treated like s**t at time and you could arguably be applauding them for what they are doing. As for talking about players not being selected, it's nothing to do with the establishment, this is about the 'Scouse not English' and how they have no interest in the national side, yet are outranged when some of their players don't get selected for the national side. For me though it all goes together with this anti England viewpoint many of their fans have, in the same way Man Utd had in the millennium, singing pro Argentina songs to get a reaction, which of course it did. And at the risk of being accused of whataboutery, I just find it interesting seeing people outraged at England fans booing an anthem and accusing them of disrespect (which I agree with), yet find Liverpool fans booing our anthem and a choir singing a hymn as a jolly good laugh. Of course I'm well aware there will be some on the other side, ie boo another countries anthem but are outraged by Liverpool fans.
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Post by shrewsace on May 16, 2022 18:30:10 GMT 1
I'm fully aware of the debate around levelling up monies and the alleged favouring of Tory marginals. You may recall Andrew Marr grilling former communities secretary Robert Jenrick some time back. But if these booing fans live in deprived areas, why should they - or rather their elected representatives - not be first in the queue? If they want to be scouse, not English, then let them eat cake - especially if it's on Bogoff with all the other unhealthy foods that the Tories are hoping will keep the downtrodden alive. Personally, I wouldn't be for punishing some of the country's most deprived areas because a few football fans didn't show due deference at a cup final.
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 19:34:56 GMT 1
Another forelock-tugging-before-the-golden-throne cap-doffer. Make up your mind, Britain or England? They're not the same place. Have you turned into Michael Gove? Scouse gits! Are you one too? Gawd bless Her Majesty.
It's England that provides the most taxpayer's money, Britain that spends it.
Scouse? How dare you! Woollyback and proud, sir.
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Post by staffordshrew on May 16, 2022 19:43:40 GMT 1
Scouse gits! Are you one too? Gawd bless Her Majesty. It's England that provides the most taxpayer's money, Britain that spends it.
Scouse? How dare you! Woollyback and proud, sir. "Historically, the term Woolyback referred to a person who was from out of town, and worked in the Liverpool docks as scab labour. Some would end up covered in wool, having carried woollen bales on their back"
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 19:47:13 GMT 1
It's a mistake to think this is just a Liverpool thing. There's been a Republic of Mancunia banner at Old Trafford for many years. I'm not sure how you're equating wanting a club's players to be selected for England with support for the monarchy/establishment. That's a new one on me. In any case, a lot of supporters are only interested in their club and aren't that bothered about who plays for England - they'd prefer their players to be rested. All that anti-establishment sentiment so lauded by brexiteers when they thought it was directed against the EU and the 'Westminster elite' hasn't gone away. It's just that the monarchy and the government epitomise the establishment in the eyes of many of us. It'd be weird to think otherwise. The funny thing is it probably wasn't a particularly serious protest at the time, but the manufactured outrage it triggered has turned it into something much bigger. Priceless. And at the risk of being accused of whataboutery, I just find it interesting seeing people outraged at England fans booing an anthem and accusing them of disrespect (which I agree with), yet find Liverpool fans booing our anthem and a choir singing a hymn as a jolly good laugh. Of course I'm well aware there will be some on the other side, ie boo another countries anthem but are outraged by Liverpool fans. It wasn't a jolly good laugh but it was disrespectful to boo the anthem, and intentionally so I should think. A healthy democracy can always tolerate dissent and disrespect, be it booing the anthem, booing establishment representatives, burning a flag, whatever. We never want to see the alternative here. The jolly good laugh element stems from the hysterical overreaction of some to a healthy display of free expression in action. Some of us love freedom of expression - but only so long as we agree with what's being expressed! As long as nobody is being hurt or intimidated by it, we should welcome it, even if we disagree. I wouldn't boo another country's anthem though because that would be unwarranted disrespect - ok, not entirely true, Russia's and maybe some others deserve it. I've never booed our anthem, but I'd never sing it either because I don't recognise the monarchy and the country as one and the same thing. Now if we changed the song .....
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Post by venceremos on May 16, 2022 19:50:40 GMT 1
Scouse? How dare you! Woollyback and proud, sir. "Historically, the term Woolyback referred to a person who was from out of town, and worked in the Liverpool docks as scab labour. Some would end up covered in wool, having carried woollen bales on their back" Scousers use the term more broadly these days! Here am I defending scousers and I probably have more reason than anyone else on here to resent them - they took over my home town when Runcorn new town was created!
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