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Post by venceremos on May 15, 2022 21:15:45 GMT 1
Abide With Me has brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye every time I've heard it at Wembley, & sometimes even on TV. I'm sorry that was booed. I've no personal animosity towards Prince William or the Queen. I can't stick Liverpool FC and hope they don't win anything else - two 0-0 draws shouldn't be enough to win anyone a cup, never mind two. I don't get sentimental about Liverpool supporters, You'll Never Walk Alone, or any of that, although they were treated appallingly at Hillsborough and for decades afterwards. However, I have a huge respect for those expressing anti-establishment views in any way that gets noticed. If you're "offended" by the national anthem or the monarchy being booed, get over yourself. Nobody got hurt, no motorists were inconvenienced and this is still (just about) a democracy. People have every right to protest the godawful status quo and make people notice. Well done Liverpool fans, this manufactured outrage has been more entertaining than the match was.
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Post by block12massive on May 15, 2022 21:22:01 GMT 1
Abide With Me has brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye every time I've heard it at Wembley, & sometimes even on TV. I'm sorry that was booed. I've no personal animosity towards Prince William or the Queen. I can't stick Liverpool FC and hope they don't win anything else - two 0-0 draws shouldn't be enough to win anyone a cup, never mind two. I don't get sentimental about Liverpool supporters, You'll Never Walk Alone, or any of that, although they were treated appallingly at Hillsborough and for decades afterwards. However, I have a huge respect for those expressing anti-establishment views in any way that gets noticed. If you're "offended" by the national anthem or the monarchy being booed, get over yourself. Nobody got hurt, no motorists were inconvenienced and this is still (just about) a democracy. People have every right to protest the godawful status quo and make people notice. Well done Liverpool fans, this manufactured outrage has been more entertaining than the match was. With all due respect, a brainless contribution to this discussion. While I don't always agree with your views, you normally make fairly coherent points. It's pretty absurd to think that the behaviour of the Liverpool fans was some sort of orchestrated grandstanding on behalf of the poor and less fortunate. They've been a stain on this country since Heysel.
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Post by block12massive on May 15, 2022 21:23:46 GMT 1
Abide With Me has brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye every time I've heard it at Wembley, & sometimes even on TV. I'm sorry that was booed. I've no personal animosity towards Prince William or the Queen. I can't stick Liverpool FC and hope they don't win anything else - two 0-0 draws shouldn't be enough to win anyone a cup, never mind two. I don't get sentimental about Liverpool supporters, You'll Never Walk Alone, or any of that, although they were treated appallingly at Hillsborough and for decades afterwards. However, I have a huge respect for those expressing anti-establishment views in any way that gets noticed. If you're "offended" by the national anthem or the monarchy being booed, get over yourself. Nobody got hurt, no motorists were inconvenienced and this is still (just about) a democracy. People have every right to protest the godawful status quo and make people notice. Well done Liverpool fans, this manufactured outrage has been more entertaining than the match was. With all due respect, a brainless contribution to this discussion. While I don't always agree with your views, you normally make fairly coherent points. It's pretty absurd to think that the behaviour of the Liverpool fans was some sort of orchestrated grandstanding on behalf of the poor and less fortunate. They've been a stain on this country since Heysel. Also worth remembering the way some of their fans tried lecturing us for the behaviour of one idiot when we played up there this season.
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Post by shrewsace on May 15, 2022 21:25:57 GMT 1
I see the 'you can't say anything these days without offending the bedwetters' types are, er, getting rather offended.
Hope they've got their plastic bedsheets firmly secured 😂
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Post by venceremos on May 15, 2022 21:28:26 GMT 1
Abide With Me has brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye every time I've heard it at Wembley, & sometimes even on TV. I'm sorry that was booed. I've no personal animosity towards Prince William or the Queen. I can't stick Liverpool FC and hope they don't win anything else - two 0-0 draws shouldn't be enough to win anyone a cup, never mind two. I don't get sentimental about Liverpool supporters, You'll Never Walk Alone, or any of that, although they were treated appallingly at Hillsborough and for decades afterwards. However, I have a huge respect for those expressing anti-establishment views in any way that gets noticed. If you're "offended" by the national anthem or the monarchy being booed, get over yourself. Nobody got hurt, no motorists were inconvenienced and this is still (just about) a democracy. People have every right to protest the godawful status quo and make people notice. Well done Liverpool fans, this manufactured outrage has been more entertaining than the match was. With all due respect, a brainless contribution to this discussion. While I don't always agree with your views, you normally make fairly coherent points. It's pretty absurd to think that the behaviour of the Liverpool fans was some sort of orchestrated grandstanding on behalf of the poor and less fortunate. They've been a stain on this country since Heysel. Booooooo!
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Post by Pilch on May 15, 2022 22:23:12 GMT 1
With all due respect, a brainless contribution to this discussion. While I don't always agree with your views, you normally make fairly coherent points. It's pretty absurd to think that the behaviour of the Liverpool fans was some sort of orchestrated grandstanding on behalf of the poor and less fortunate. They've been a stain on this country since Heysel. Also worth remembering the way some of their fans tried lecturing us for the behaviour of one idiot when we played up there this season. that's a good point, maybe we should bump up some of those hateful lectures they gave us earlier in the season and contact their club to see if they will put out a statement like we did it would have been main news all day if songs were sung about them
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 16, 2022 6:26:22 GMT 1
i cant imagine how upseting it must have been for the choir. "The jeers started during a rendition of the Christian hymn Abide With Me by the 60-strong B Positive Choir, whose members have sickle cell disease or who have close friends or family suffering from it. I would have thought an awful lot of time and effort to prepare for that too only to have things spoilt in that manner. Schade schade.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 7:03:28 GMT 1
It shouldnt be a surprise about booing the anthem/William although booing a hymn is a new one! For a while now there has been hostility from many Liverpool fans towards the ruling classes and that's grown stronger, they feel like theve been s**t on by this country and the 'Scouse not English' shout is one you hear more and more of.
To an extent I can understand it, they of course were treated badly under Thatcher and they feel like they've never had justice from Hillsborough. But what I will point out to some of their fans is they aren't unique in this country, most regions have been s**t on by the government at some point. Perhaps we should applaud them for not simply accepting it like the majority do, however like I said them being treated badly by a gov't is not just a Liverpool thing. On a similar line they will use some of the songs sung about how they are victimised, the 'Feed the Scousers...', that's just football fans being football fans taking an old lazy stereotype and doing it to wind up an opposition, I've heard it being sung about lots of other clubs. I'm not saying it's right but it's certainly proof of a vendetta against Liverpool.
The problem you've got now is we are stuck in a cycle of Liverpool fans doing something like booing the anthem, the country gets outraged, many share stuff like 'typical scousers', Liverpool fans go into siege mentality & feel targeted by the rest of the nation, they boo the anthem next time round (and repeat).
One other thing I point out is the hypocrisy, this whole 'we aren't English' and 'we hate the monarchy/establishment' goes out of the window when a player doesn't get selected for England or a former legend isn't knighted. The outrage there is normally entertaining.
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 8:11:29 GMT 1
And they wonder why they're the most hated fanbase in the UK. They've booed GSTQ before. Hardly a surprise. Though their warped justification seems to centre on the hatred of one ex PM and/or one political party. Disrespecting the armed forces and 'Abide with me' - the hymn that is played at funerals up and down the land is shocking even by their standards. The absence of any widespread criticism is astonishing. Let's remember the outrage when City fans booed the minutes silence for Hillsborough. Are the two comparable? Some may argue not but given that 'Abide with me' is sacred to so many people I would say it probably is. Ashamed of nothing. Offended by everything. Come on City. Hala Madrid. The irony of “offended by everything” 😂😂😂 Would this thread even exist if Chelsea won? Have you stopped crying yet?
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Post by Exkeeper on May 16, 2022 8:26:20 GMT 1
Liverpool supporters like to view themselves as some sort of downtrodden underclass, despite the fact that hardly any of them actually come from Liverpool. And I bet even fewer of them were actually seriously affected by Thatcher’s government. I’d imagine a rather sizeable portion of supporters in the Liverpool end yesterday are from the Home Counties. Funny how Everton fans can bring themselves to not boo their own country's national anthem tells you everything you need to know Although to put that theory to the test, Everton would need to get themselves to a cup final. I quite like Everton but I can’t remember the last time they played in a game where the National Anthem was played so it would be difficult to see how they react. Whilst mentioning Everton, I see that two Brentford players, one of whom was Ivan Toney, have reported to the police that their family members racial abused at Goodison on Sunday.
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Post by block12massive on May 16, 2022 8:37:08 GMT 1
And they wonder why they're the most hated fanbase in the UK. They've booed GSTQ before. Hardly a surprise. Though their warped justification seems to centre on the hatred of one ex PM and/or one political party. Disrespecting the armed forces and 'Abide with me' - the hymn that is played at funerals up and down the land is shocking even by their standards. The absence of any widespread criticism is astonishing. Let's remember the outrage when City fans booed the minutes silence for Hillsborough. Are the two comparable? Some may argue not but given that 'Abide with me' is sacred to so many people I would say it probably is. Ashamed of nothing. Offended by everything. Come on City. Hala Madrid. The irony of “offended by everything” 😂😂😂 Would this thread even exist if Chelsea won? Have you stopped crying yet? Have we unearthed a double agent, ladies and gentleman? One of the famous outlawed 'Shrewsapool' crew.
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 8:44:12 GMT 1
The irony of “offended by everything” 😂😂😂 Would this thread even exist if Chelsea won? Have you stopped crying yet? Have we unearthed a double agent, ladies and gentleman? One of the famous outlawed 'Shrewsapool' crew. I’ll take that as a no then! 😂
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Post by staffordshrew on May 16, 2022 8:46:57 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect".
As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds.
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Post by block12massive on May 16, 2022 8:56:09 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. They also wanted the UK taxpayer to bail them out during Covid let's not forget. I find it remarkable just how quickly the whole European Super League attempted cut and run has been forgotten and all is forgiven. That goes for all the other clubs involved in that hare-brained idea as well. Something heart-warming about a venture capitalist football club who's players earn upwards of £250,000 a week being the beacon of light for a hard up city who think by booing a national anthem and series of traditions they're sticking up two fingers to the man.
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Post by martinshrew on May 16, 2022 8:58:30 GMT 1
It's a showpiece event seen around the world, but Liverpool fans didn't want Britain to be shown in a good light. It wasn't clever and doesn't deserve "respect". As for "scouse, not English", I expect they will be first in the queue to get some English money from "levelling up" funds. They also wanted the UK taxpayer to bail them out during Covid let's not forget. I find it remarkable just how quickly the whole European Super League attempted cut and run has been forgotten and all is forgiven. That goes for all the other clubs involved in that hare-brained idea as well. Something heart-warming about a venture capitalist football club who's players earn upwards of £250,000 a week being the beacon of light for a hard up city who think by booing a national anthem and series of traditions they're sticking up two fingers to the man. They'd be laughable if most of the country didn't find them so offensive. They're just a horrible, victim mentality, hypercritical bunch of tossers 🤮
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2022 9:23:03 GMT 1
They're just a horrible, victim mentality, hypercritical bunch of tossers 🤮 What all of them?
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Post by martinshrew on May 16, 2022 9:48:14 GMT 1
They're just a horrible, victim mentality, hypercritical bunch of tossers 🤮 What all of them? Vast majority as highlighted on Saturday.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 16, 2022 10:30:42 GMT 1
I for one am shocked that the Mail would lead with such a headline. Don’t they know there’s a war on?!
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Post by sheltonsalopian on May 16, 2022 10:44:18 GMT 1
Would've made more sense if they were boo'ing GSTQ and not abide with me but can't say I'm particularly surprised.
Anything to wind up daily mail readers is ok in my book though.
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Post by block12massive on May 16, 2022 10:48:08 GMT 1
Would've made more sense if they were boo'ing GSTQ and not abide with me but can't say I'm particularly surprised. Anything to wind up daily mail readers is ok in my book though. Funny because I've seen the story reported in pretty much every one of the mainstream papers. As well as the fact it was trending on twitter and was quite a big talking point in general. But yeah, the 'Daily Maiwwwlll'
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Post by martinshrew on May 16, 2022 10:57:03 GMT 1
Amazing the depths some of our closet scousers go to defend this.
Absolutely horrid bunch 🤮
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Post by kenwood on May 16, 2022 11:09:32 GMT 1
Let’s not put two and two together and come up with the idea that all residents of Liverpool are out and out scum . Certainly it was a disgrace and hopefully Liverpool football club will offer a full and honest apology for some of their supporters acting in such a manner . But surely this isn’t reflective of the City of Liverpool as a whole . I would think a majority would find these actions deplorable .
Similarly the behaviour of those Shrewsbury residents involved with the EBF over the years isn’t reflective of the town of Shrewsbury .
I think some perspective is required .
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Post by martinshrew on May 16, 2022 11:16:37 GMT 1
Let’s not put two and two together and come up with the idea that all residents of Liverpool are out and out scum . Certainly it was a disgrace and hopefully Liverpool football club will offer a full and honest apology for some of their supporters acting in such a manner . But surely this isn’t reflective of the City of Liverpool as a whole . I would think a majority would find these actions deplorable . Similarly the behaviour of those Shrewsbury residents involved with the EBF over the years isn’t reflective of the town of Shrewsbury . I think some perspective is required . "I would think a majority would find these actions deplorable."Unfortunately this is the problem, they don't. Scouse not English, **** the establishment, everyone's out to get us, we're always bottom of the pile. Pure victim mentality, absolutely sick to death of them.
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 11:19:07 GMT 1
Amazing the depths some of our closet scousers go to defend this. Absolutely horrid bunch 🤮 Personally, do I agree with the booing? No, absolutely not. No defence from me for those actions. But do I find it hilarious it’s rattled so many people? Yes 😂 The fact it gets this level of coverage, but Man City fans booing a minutes silence for the deceased hardly gets a mention, just about sums it up perfectly
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Post by kenwood on May 16, 2022 11:19:21 GMT 1
How do you know that. Carried out a survey have you ?
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Post by martinshrew on May 16, 2022 11:20:04 GMT 1
How do you know that. Carried out a survey have you ? I look forward to your survey results proving the opposite.
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Post by block12massive on May 16, 2022 11:22:15 GMT 1
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Post by kenwood on May 16, 2022 11:27:45 GMT 1
I don’t really think I need to.
Do you think you are getting mixed up with the supporters of Liverpool football club and the City of Liverpool as a whole . Don’t let your obvious hatred of the club take over .
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 16, 2022 11:28:41 GMT 1
Amazing the depths some of our closet scousers go to defend this. Absolutely horrid bunch 🤮 Personally, do I agree with the booing? No, absolutely not. No defence from me for those actions. But do I find it hilarious it’s rattled so many people? Yes 😂 The only thing more hilarious was Pep Guardiola last week suggesting the whole of the country wants Liverpool to win over them! The man must live underground 😂
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Post by Valerioch on May 16, 2022 11:53:49 GMT 1
I was on about on this board in fairness
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