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Post by MartinB on May 7, 2022 15:54:01 GMT 1
Doing things only he can do today
25 mins own goal 26 mins concede penalty and gets sent off
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Post by shrewsace on May 7, 2022 15:59:28 GMT 1
Doing things only he can do today 25 mins own goal 26 mins concede penalty and gets sent off Some posters thought he was unduly scapegoated while he was here. I wasn't one of them.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 7, 2022 16:02:07 GMT 1
Doing things only he can do today 25 mins own goal 26 mins concede penalty and gets sent off And Grimsby let in a second goal from the resulting penalty. Shame for Paul Hurst đŸ˜‚ Seems like they will still get in the play offs, but Waterfall probably wont be playing in them now.
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Post by Pilch on May 7, 2022 16:24:23 GMT 1
Doing things only he can do today 25 mins own goal 26 mins concede penalty and gets sent off Some posters thought he was unduly scapegoated while he was here. I wasn't one of them. me too, I thought he was decent as part of 3 in the middle
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Post by gtismygod on May 7, 2022 16:28:05 GMT 1
Who remembers Askey bringing Kennedy in to play centre-half? Played one game, was slow as a cart horse, and we never saw him again.
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Post by shrewsace on May 7, 2022 16:29:41 GMT 1
Some posters thought he was unduly scapegoated while he was here. I wasn't one of them. me too, I thought he was decent as part of 3 in the middle TBH his best contributions were a few headed goals, defensively he was too often a liability.
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Post by Pilch on May 7, 2022 16:49:25 GMT 1
me too, I thought he was decent as part of 3 in the middle TBH his best contributions were a few headed goals, defensively he was too often a liability. I always thought the others around him were the problem
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Post by Valerioch on May 7, 2022 22:53:56 GMT 1
Escargot moved quicker than him. Found his level in non league
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 7:06:07 GMT 1
Escargot moved quicker than him. Found his level in non league Agree, he's an old fashioned stopper and honest pro who gave 100% but was out of his depth at this level.
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Post by wookeywombat on May 8, 2022 7:53:14 GMT 1
I was at the Grimsby Wrexham game and I have to say he was outstanding. He scored a goal and won everything against the Hollywood Superstars. His level, though.
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Post by blamber on May 8, 2022 9:41:43 GMT 1
Good in the air but too slow. He was too easily undone by the quicker players in league one of which there are many.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 9:43:29 GMT 1
Good in the air but too slow. He was too easily undone by the quicker players in league one of which there are many. we've just got rid of 2 similar defenders
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Post by Exkeeper on May 8, 2022 9:57:13 GMT 1
Doing things only he can do today 25 mins own goal 26 mins concede penalty and gets sent off And Grimsby let in a second goal from the resulting penalty. Shame for Paul Hurst đŸ˜‚ Seems like they will still get in the play offs, but Waterfall probably wont be playing in them now. If the sending off was for bringing down someone who was through on goal (professional foul), he will only get a one match ban - Eastleigh away in the final league game, so will be available for the play-offs.
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Post by northwestman on May 8, 2022 10:28:30 GMT 1
Waterfall's calamitous 60 seconds unbelievably saw the hosts trailing 2-0 in the blink of an eye.
First, the skipper stabbed a hopeful Remy Clerima ball in from the right past Max Crocombe from close to the penalty spot in the 25th minute.
Next, he found himself the wrong side of muscular Maidenhead forward Acquah and grappled him to the ground, with referee Peter Gibbons pointing to the spot despite home protests that the offence had taken place outside the box.
What could not be disputed, however, was that Waterfall's foul merited the subsequent red card having denied Acquah a clear goalscoring opportunity.
Grimsby Telegraph.
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Post by Pilch on May 8, 2022 11:21:06 GMT 1
Waterfall's calamitous 60 seconds unbelievably saw the hosts trailing 2-0 in the blink of an eye. First, the skipper stabbed a hopeful Remy Clerima ball in from the right past Max Crocombe from close to the penalty spot in the 25th minute. Next, he found himself the wrong side of muscular Maidenhead forward Acquah and grappled him to the ground, with referee Peter Gibbons pointing to the spot despite home protests that the offence had taken place outside the box. What could not be disputed, however, was that Waterfall's foul merited the subsequent red card having denied Acquah a clear goalscoring opportunity. Grimsby Telegraph. I always think to myself that such a foul actually creates a clear goalscoring opportunity ;-)
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2022 22:17:50 GMT 1
I remember Gavin Whyte destroying us, for Oxford, with 3 virtual carbon copy goals. Long ball over top, to Whyte who was one on one with Waterfall, left him for dead each time and same outcome, goal!
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Post by Valerioch on May 8, 2022 22:20:38 GMT 1
I remember Gavin Whyte destroying us, for Oxford, with 3 virtual carbon copy goals. Long ball over top, to Whyte who was one on one with Waterfall, left him for dead each time and same outcome, goal! Still have nightmares of that game, can’t think of many games I’ve left genuinely angry but that disasterclass was one
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Post by South Stand Salopian on May 8, 2022 22:29:48 GMT 1
Who could forget the 4-0 loss at home to Rotherham in the Cup, it was an absolute masterclass in how not to defend by Mr. Waterfall.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 8, 2022 22:48:11 GMT 1
Whilst he was here I always tried to see his positives and defend him from the boo boys. But now he’s long gone, surely we can all admit he was nowhere near the standard. Was always a defensive mistake waiting to happen.
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Post by Exkeeper on May 9, 2022 7:56:59 GMT 1
Whilst he was here I always tried to see his positives and defend him from the boo boys. But now he’s long gone, surely we can all admit he was nowhere near the standard. Was always a defensive mistake waiting to happen. Much the same that I said about another departed centre back but I got hammered because he was popular.
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Post by block12massive on May 9, 2022 8:38:57 GMT 1
Who remembers Askey bringing Kennedy in to play centre-half? Played one game, was slow as a cart horse, and we never saw him again. Sometimes I think to myself that Askey should have given more time. Then I remember some of the signings he made that summer. Waterfall, Kennedy, Doug Loft, Steve Arnold, Amadi-Holloway, Lee Angol. After the previous season of watching Henderson, Godfrey, Nolan et al, it was as far a fall from grace as you can imagine. P.S A quick google and Kennedy now plays for Stockport...no not County, but Town.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 9:37:23 GMT 1
I remember Gavin Whyte destroying us, for Oxford, with 3 virtual carbon copy goals. Long ball over top, to Whyte who was one on one with Waterfall, left him for dead each time and same outcome, goal! Was the winner late on when Waterfall had about a 10 yard head start but looked like he was running through treacle? As someone who played centre half and had zero pace I should be sympathetic but I struggle to do so
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 9:39:44 GMT 1
Who remembers Askey bringing Kennedy in to play centre-half? Played one game, was slow as a cart horse, and we never saw him again. Sometimes I think to myself that Askey should have given more time. Then I remember some of the signings he made that summer. Waterfall, Kennedy, Doug Loft, Steve Arnold, Amadi-Holloway, Lee Angol. After the previous season of watching Henderson, Godfrey, Nolan et al, it was as far a fall from grace as you can imagine. P.S A quick google and Kennedy now plays for Stockport...no not County, but Town. To be fair it was a mixed bag. Yes he brought in some dross like you've mentioned but he also brought in Laurent, Norburn, Okenabirhie, Grant & Docherty.
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Post by martinshrew on May 9, 2022 9:42:39 GMT 1
I'm in the minority that didn't think Waterfall was THAT bad, we've had far, far worse. He was an absolute menace in the opposing box!
Askey signed a couple that didn't work out but let's not forgot Docherty, Laurent & Norburn, all plying their trade in the Championship this year.
A midfield of Laurent, Leahy & Docherty would look useful at this level!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 9:50:00 GMT 1
I'm in the minority that didn't think Waterfall was THAT bad, we've had far, far worse. That's true, however that probably isn't a glowing endorsement! There's a few centre halves who I would put in the comically bad (Winfield, Redmile, El-Abd, McGivern), he's probably not quite in that category but he wasn't far away. Like I said, an honest pro but just not a L1 defender Agree on him being a big danger in the opposition's box, something we have been lacking
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 10:51:52 GMT 1
Who could forget the 4-0 loss at home to Rotherham in the Cup, it was an absolute masterclass in how not to defend by Mr. Waterfall. I am so so glad you brought up that game now if you only do one thing in the rest of your life watch the highlights and tell me what waterfall does wrong in the 2 minutes he played in that game after getting injured attempting to rescue a pathetic EBL hoof speaking of EBL watch the whole highlights and specifically him, and his part in the goals. please come back and correct the Mandela effect from that day, thanks
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 9, 2022 12:21:33 GMT 1
I'm in the minority that didn't think Waterfall was THAT bad, we've had far, far worse. That's true, however that probably isn't a glowing endorsement! There's a few centre halves who I would put in the comically bad (Winfield, Redmile, El-Abd, McGivern), he's probably not quite in that category but he wasn't far away. Like I said, an honest pro but just not a L1 defender Agree on him being a big danger in the opposition's box, something we have been lacking Redmile wasnt actually a bad centre half when he was paired with experience like Heathcote in his early days. Once Heathcote had retired though he looked an absolute donkey though when paired with another inexperienced centre back like Artell. Absolute nightmare of a pairing, cant beleive one of the world's finest defenders of the 80s Ratcliffe even considered it let alone went with it tbh. Also didnt help that Redmile was apparently part of Jemsons truant and drinking club so got led astray somewhat.
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Post by Pilch on May 9, 2022 12:31:42 GMT 1
Who could forget the 4-0 loss at home to Rotherham in the Cup, it was an absolute masterclass in how not to defend by Mr. Waterfall. I am so so glad you brought up that game now if you only do one thing in the rest of your life watch the highlights and tell me what waterfall does wrong in the 2 minutes he played in that game after getting injured attempting to rescue a pathetic EBL hoof speaking of EBL watch the whole highlights and specifically him, and his part in the goals. please come back and correct the Mandela effect from that day, thanks the silence says it all
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Post by block12massive on May 9, 2022 12:33:11 GMT 1
Mkandiwire Winfield Waterfall McGivern El-Abd Redmile
Ranked from worst to dreadful.
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Post by blamber on May 9, 2022 12:44:54 GMT 1
I am so so glad you brought up that game now if you only do one thing in the rest of your life watch the highlights and tell me what waterfall does wrong in the 2 minutes he played in that game after getting injured attempting to rescue a pathetic EBL hoof speaking of EBL watch the whole highlights and specifically him, and his part in the goals. please come back and correct the Mandela effect from that day, thanks the silence says it all Give South Stand a chance! Not everyone spends all their time on a message board.
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