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Post by grandisonsgoldfish on May 6, 2022 11:36:37 GMT 1
With Goldson reaching the Europa League final with Rangers, is this the biggest achievement by a town alumni in club football? Thinking non domestically? Can't think of anyone else bar Hart that has potentially done better but this is where people with the stats/history may swiftly close this off.
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Post by mattmw on May 6, 2022 13:32:20 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton
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Post by Pilch on May 6, 2022 13:38:36 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton Yes he’s the one I was on about , I wonder what it feels like to have a medal in a game you played no part off
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Post by zenfootball2 on May 6, 2022 13:40:40 GMT 1
With Goldson reaching the Europa League final with Rangers, is this the biggest achievement by a town alumni in club football? Thinking non domestically? Can't think of anyone else bar Hart that has potentially done better but this is where people with the stats/history may swiftly close this off. i always like Goldson so i wish him all the best and hope they win and he plays .
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Post by thesensationaljt on May 6, 2022 19:28:05 GMT 1
I was thinking of Trevor Birch when he was at Liverpool. Although he was there during the glory years, he didn't play in the big games, so that's me shot up the Arsenal.
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Post by cabanas2017 on May 6, 2022 20:38:09 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday
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Post by Pilch on May 6, 2022 20:47:41 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday oggy also has 2 European cup winners medal, before he arrived with us, can't remember who for, or care for that matter
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Post by mattmw on May 6, 2022 21:28:43 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday I did wonder if Bob Wardle - who we exchanged Ogrizovic for with Liverpool - ever made a Liverpool substitute bench in their European Cup campaign but don't think he did. Always felt sorry for him he had to retire due to injury not long after joining Liverpool - when you think how good Ogrizovic was for us and for Coventry it shows how highly Liverpool must have rated Wardle
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Post by Pilch on May 6, 2022 21:37:15 GMT 1
Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday I did wonder if Bob Wardle - who we exchanged Ogrizovic for with Liverpool - ever made a Liverpool substitute bench in their European Cup campaign but don't think he did. Always felt sorry for him he had to retire due to injury not long after joining Liverpool - when you think how good Ogrizovic was for us and for Coventry it shows how highly Liverpool must have rated Wardle I recently watched a town game from 1983 away to Charlton, it was the season oggy played, the quality isn't great but I'm glad I watched it, oggy was awesome, great ending too and I had no idea what the score was love that town kit for the day too, blue yellow and amber, something for everyone ;-). but it looks great
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 6, 2022 21:54:09 GMT 1
Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday I did wonder if Bob Wardle - who we exchanged Ogrizovic for with Liverpool - ever made a Liverpool substitute bench in their European Cup campaign but don't think he did. Always felt sorry for him he had to retire due to injury not long after joining Liverpool - when you think how good Ogrizovic was for us and for Coventry it shows how highly Liverpool must have rated Wardle Wardle was a regular on the bench in the European games of 1982/83 but it was rare back then for keepers to get a game. And Bob didnt get on nor indeed did he ever play a first team game for them. But then again he was behind Grobbelaer so no disgrace.
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Post by Pilch on May 6, 2022 22:14:16 GMT 1
I did wonder if Bob Wardle - who we exchanged Ogrizovic for with Liverpool - ever made a Liverpool substitute bench in their European Cup campaign but don't think he did. Always felt sorry for him he had to retire due to injury not long after joining Liverpool - when you think how good Ogrizovic was for us and for Coventry it shows how highly Liverpool must have rated Wardle Wardle was a regular on the bench in the European games of 1982/83 but it was rare back then for keepers to get a game. And Bob didnt get on nor indeed did he ever play a first team game for them. But then again he was behind Grobbelaer so no disgrace. first appeared on the bench for the local derby v Dundalk , in front of a whopping 12,021 at Anfield
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 6, 2022 22:24:45 GMT 1
I did wonder if Bob Wardle - who we exchanged Ogrizovic for with Liverpool - ever made a Liverpool substitute bench in their European Cup campaign but don't think he did. Always felt sorry for him he had to retire due to injury not long after joining Liverpool - when you think how good Ogrizovic was for us and for Coventry it shows how highly Liverpool must have rated Wardle I recently watched a town game from 1983 away to Charlton, it was the season oggy played, the quality isn't great but I'm glad I watched it, oggy was awesome, great ending too and I had no idea what the score was love that town kit for the day too, blue yellow and amber, something for everyone ;-). but it looks great Great find, my one and only visit to the Valley on a Friday night at the end of April (second to last away game). As we crawled through London (pre M25) we were unaware of the thunderstorm which nearly called the game off, the results of which you can clearly see on the pitch. The few Town fans were on the side where the camera was, just to the right. Sure there was just the one of Smithys coaches (probably not full either) but you can clearly hear us after the goal at least. Guess scooter and Martin B may well have been there too. That side terrace was awesome, even though by then the top part wasnt being used, quite what it would have been like when full I can only imagine. To think in just a few years the ground was left to become overgrown as Charlton moved out. I certainly miss football as it was then, no handbags, no diving, no cheating, no VAR, no..... I could go on and on.
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Post by harboroughshrew on May 7, 2022 8:16:52 GMT 1
Great question! Only one I can think of that comes close is Ian Atkins who was a youth team and first team player at Shrewsbury before moving to Sunderland then Everton. He was at Everton when they won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1985 - and was on the subs bench in the final but didn't play and only ever made a handful of appearances at Everton Ian Atkins won a league title with Everton 1987 making the required number of appearances in that season (16) to qualify for a medal. So Joe Hart and Akker have Title winning medals Additionally Steve Ogrizovic won FA Cup with Coventry Nigel Pearson as captain lifted the League Cup with Sheffield Wednesday Both Ogrizovic and Pearson would be in my best ever Town team.
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Post by The Clash 1966 on May 7, 2022 10:03:32 GMT 1
James tavernier also played for the town too . Two ex town men in the final
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Post by kenwood on May 7, 2022 10:18:33 GMT 1
I was thinking of Trevor Birch when he was at Liverpool. Although he was there during the glory years, he didn't play in the big games, so that's me shot up the Arsenal. Trevor Birch came to us with a bit of a reputation as a goal scorer if you remember jt. We were delighted to have him as he had scored a hatful in Liverpool’s Central League side. It soon dawned on us that it would be difficult not to score in that team full of Liverpool players coming back from injury , loss of form or young players ready to burst onto the scene . He couldn’t do the business for us unfortunately but has since made a name for himself , and no doubt a shed load of money , in the financial world . I think he was at one time involved in insolvency work and sorting out the finances of clubs entering administration . He has made a reputation for himself and is much sought after. Cant remember what he does now but he is very high profile in his own field.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 7, 2022 12:36:58 GMT 1
James tavernier also played for the town too . Two ex town men in the final I had a feeling about Tavernier too, thanks for confirming it.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on May 7, 2022 13:48:26 GMT 1
Frank Griffin won a FA Cup winners medal with WBA against PNE, 1950's, and scored the winning goal. The FA Cup was a massive competition in those days and I remember watching it on a black and white TV. Also saw him play for Town at the Gay Meadow before he moved to the Albion. Happy days. 🙂⚽
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Post by Pilch on May 7, 2022 15:17:35 GMT 1
we once owned and gave a league debut to a player who went on to play in the World Cup finals , he played every one of his nations games and didn't lose any
any ideas ?
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Post by The Clash 1966 on May 7, 2022 15:37:55 GMT 1
James tavernier also played forthe town too . Two ex town men in the final I had a feeling about Tavernier too, thanks for confirming it. played once according to my mate Wikipedia.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 7, 2022 15:58:10 GMT 1
we once owned and gave a league debut to a player who went on to play in the World Cup finals , he played every one of his nations games and didn't lose any any ideas ? Probably Jim Holton, played for Scotland in 1974 World Cup and they went out at the group stages without losing.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 7, 2022 16:23:28 GMT 1
I had a feeling about Tavernier too, thanks for confirming it. played once according to my mate Wikipedia. First game of the season, got injured and never played again for town. Think Ryan Woods came in and took his place. Tavernier loan ended shortly after which he went to Rotherham and played most of their season getting promoted. A year later signed for rangers and has been there ever since. Don't think many then would have predicted he would be the captain of a side in a European final!
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Post by Pilch on May 7, 2022 16:25:46 GMT 1
we once owned and gave a league debut to a player who went on to play in the World Cup finals , he played every one of his nations games and didn't lose any any ideas ? Probably Jim Holton, played for Scotland in 1974 World Cup and they went out at the group stages without losing. yes I believe so, poor old Scots coming home unbeaten in 74, knocked out in the first round
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on May 7, 2022 16:38:05 GMT 1
Probably Jim Holton, played for Scotland in 1974 World Cup and they went out at the group stages without losing. yes I believe so, poor old Scots coming home unbeaten in 74, knocked out in the first round Ah, yes but even more embarrassing was the next one in 1978 - they were nailed on to bring the trophy home according to their manager Ally McLeod 😂😂😂
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Post by weststander on May 7, 2022 17:49:20 GMT 1
Joe Hart? Played for England in two World Cups and in European championships.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 1, 2022 18:33:54 GMT 1
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Post by alecwillis on Jun 1, 2022 20:47:06 GMT 1
James tavernier also played for the town too . Two ex town men in the final and Josh Ginelly played for Hearts, he was ours but was seduced by the bright lights of Burnley
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Post by Pilch on Jun 2, 2022 10:47:58 GMT 1
does anyone know how much we get as a result of him signing a new contract, wouldn't have thought much
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