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Post by Pilch on Mar 13, 2022 18:07:06 GMT 1
Also noticed the difference in diesel to petrol is now upto 16p (BP at Meole) Why? Probably because sainsburys ran out of diesel earlier |
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 13, 2022 18:25:14 GMT 1
Also noticed the difference in diesel to petrol is now upto 16p (BP at Meole) Why? Probably because sainsburys ran out of diesel earlier Nah the same on thieves lane (appropriate) but also Red Lion Garage Wellington 15p difference |
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 13, 2022 18:30:27 GMT 1
Step up Danny Boy, isn’t he close to Saudi ? |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 14, 2022 15:47:02 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 14, 2022 16:02:43 GMT 1
Think you need to discuss that with various forecourt filling stations before you predict that. ... Sure many will be reluctant to bring their prices down by anything like what they should be. They did the same a couple of months ago. 🤬 |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 15, 2022 11:37:53 GMT 1
as I drove past sanisburys this morning I noticed diesel was now 154.9 there Today 165.9 😲 169.9 sainsburys today |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 15, 2022 12:13:19 GMT 1
160.9 and 170.9 in Asda Telford today.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 15, 2022 16:49:56 GMT 1
I read that the price is likely to stay high or increase a bit more for a while, as today's prices are based on crude oil prices at the start of the war, so there are further increases to be factored in.
Demand tends to be highest at the weekend and last weekend apparently saw petrol stations having to restock sooner than anticipated which, ironically, meant that prices rose more quickly because it was the higher priced stock they were buying in.
More hopefully, the price of Brent crude has dropped to about £94 a barrel today, having been almost £124 a week ago. "Curious" that the price was up to £138 in autumn 2018 without consumer energy prices being anywhere near their current levels. Strong suspicion of profiteering along the supply chain.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 15, 2022 18:32:56 GMT 1
I read that the price is likely to stay high or increase a bit more for a while, as today's prices are based on crude oil prices at the start of the war, so there are further increases to be factored in. Demand tends to be highest at the weekend and last weekend apparently saw petrol stations having to restock sooner than anticipated which, ironically, meant that prices rose more quickly because it was the higher priced stock they were buying in. More hopefully, the price of Brent crude has dropped to about £94 a barrel today, having been almost £124 a week ago. "Curious" that the price was up to £138 in autumn 2018 without consumer energy prices being anywhere near their current levels. Strong suspicion of profiteering along the supply chain. Your last sentence is a given I'm sure. |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 17, 2022 11:43:04 GMT 1
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Mar 17, 2022 12:01:04 GMT 1
199.9 for diesel in Long Stratton, Norfolk, yesterday!
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Post by wurlitzer on Mar 17, 2022 19:24:20 GMT 1
199.9 for diesel in Long Stratton, Norfolk, yesterday! That’s £9.07 a gallon …… |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 17, 2022 19:41:48 GMT 1
199.9 for diesel in Long Stratton, Norfolk, yesterday! That’s £9.07 a gallon …… fake news It’s £9.08 😜 |
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Post by kenwood on Mar 18, 2022 1:35:06 GMT 1
I’m selling me car .
It was worth f.ck all but as it has almost a full tank I’m expecting a lot of interest .
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 18, 2022 2:00:33 GMT 1
Car for Sale.
Thirty previous owners
Strong smell of urine
Broken windscreen
No wheels
No engine
No income tax
No VAT
Full tank of petrol
£16,500 ONO
Serious offers only please.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 18, 2022 8:14:32 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 19, 2022 11:10:47 GMT 1
"Shell Chief Executive Ben van Beurden's annual pay rose by a quarter to more than £6m after the oil group posted record results boosted by rising prices that have caused the cost of living to soar. Van Beurden's total pay rose to €7.4m (£6.3m) in 2021 from €5.8m the year before, Shell said in its annual report. He was paid €5.4m in bonuses and long-term incentives on top of €2m fixed pay. He also received a €14,400 "motoring allowance" €2,494 for transport between his home and office". - (Sharecast News).
Capitalism at it's finest.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 19, 2022 13:42:57 GMT 1
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Post by venceremos on Mar 19, 2022 14:03:30 GMT 1
Apparently there's a time lag of a week or two between rising spot prices for oil and petrol increases, so these prices reflect the market shortly after the war began. Prices should ease a little in the next week or two to reflect the fall in the oil price this week. How long that holds is anyone's guess. Meanwhile, it's far worse for anyone stuck with oil for their domestic hot water and heating and no price cap to limit the increases. Another big contributor to rural poverty - 1.5 million people apparently ignored. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 19, 2022 14:11:15 GMT 1
Apparently there's a time lag of a week or two between rising spot prices for oil and petrol increases, so these prices reflect the market shortly after the war began. Prices should ease a little in the next week or two to reflect the fall in the oil price this week. How long that holds is anyone's guess. Meanwhile, it's far worse for anyone stuck with oil for their domestic hot water and heating and no price cap to limit the increases. Another big contributor to rural poverty - 1.5 million people apparently ignored. Been said before, it goes up quick, but comes down slow.
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
We are all going to suffer huge price rises but at least the war is not quite at our back door.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 19, 2022 14:24:20 GMT 1
Asda £164.7 unleaded this morning.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 19, 2022 14:46:24 GMT 1
Apparently there's a time lag of a week or two between rising spot prices for oil and petrol increases, so these prices reflect the market shortly after the war began. Prices should ease a little in the next week or two to reflect the fall in the oil price this week. How long that holds is anyone's guess. Meanwhile, it's far worse for anyone stuck with oil for their domestic hot water and heating and no price cap to limit the increases. Another big contributor to rural poverty - 1.5 million people apparently ignored. Been said before, it goes up quick, but comes down slow.
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
We are all going to suffer huge price rises but at least the war is not quite at our back door.
Rural type here 😉😂 Must admit I am dead against the burning of s**te wood burnt in wood burners . The smoke and smell is horrendous . I should know , I live next door to someone who fires up sending bloody particulates everywhere . It seriously isn’t a laughing matter . Anyhow , I think he will have to stop soon and burn only kiln dried wood . I had an oil delivery 2 weeks ago and paid 70.9 p per litre . Had to query my bill yesterday , all good but I asked the firm how much are they charging now . The cost per litre quoted was 90.9 ppl . and rising . Hope back end the cost has come down a lot . Genuinely feel for those who are really struggling with increased costs for almost everything . Time to dig up some of the garden and start planting I think . |
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Post by venceremos on Mar 19, 2022 14:51:14 GMT 1
Apparently there's a time lag of a week or two between rising spot prices for oil and petrol increases, so these prices reflect the market shortly after the war began. Prices should ease a little in the next week or two to reflect the fall in the oil price this week. How long that holds is anyone's guess. Meanwhile, it's far worse for anyone stuck with oil for their domestic hot water and heating and no price cap to limit the increases. Another big contributor to rural poverty - 1.5 million people apparently ignored.
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
Not true. You seem to assume that "rural types" are uniformly affluent. They/we are not. You also seem to view us as something out of an eighteenth century painting of peasant folk, spending our every day foraging for wood. If you burned wood you'd know it has to be seasoned to burn efficiently and more cleanly - so it has to be stored for 1-3 years depending on the type of wood. And where do you suggest we "collect" our wood? Landowners aren't usually so generous as to let you take their wood as and when you want it. The reality is you have to buy logs or manufactured briquettes - at prices that are linked to the price of other fuels. Oil has been a more expensive fuel than gas for many years. Even the boilers to burn it are more expensive. But it's the only option for most "rural types" if you want central heating, unless you opt for even more expensive LPG or electricity. That buy in August rule doesn't work as neatly as you assume when you have to use oil all year round to get hot water. You can't just fill the tank once and settle back for winter. We've always been quite sparing with our oil use but we still get through two tanks a year - 2,500 litres. I spoke to someone last week who reckons he needs a refill every 6 weeks - hard to sustain at over £1,500 a time. Gas and electricity prices are about to go up 50% and there are howls of pain and outrage. I sympathise - our electricity prices are going up at the same rate. But our oil price went up 300% almost overnight, with no price cap protection and no upper limit if things get worse. As if that wasn't bad enough, suppliers have been unable to fulfil orders. When you ring a supplier now, you can't just order a delivery to arrive in a few days' time, as you could a few weeks ago. They tell you they'll call you back in 2 weeks or so and quote you a price - that is if they're even accepting any orders at all, which a lot of suppliers have been unable to do. Imagine that if your tank is empty and the weather's cold - no heating and no hot water, unless you have an immersion heater. Why are we not sheltered from price hikes the way gas users are? You might have been joking but, believe me, it's not really a laughing matter for many of those affected. We're amongst the lucky "rural types". We limit our use of oil and can still afford to refill our near-empty tank - if a supplier will allow us to, that is. And we still have enough fuel for the stove to see us past the end of the cold weather. But a lot of people won't be so fortunate and are getting tired of being ignored. |
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Post by venceremos on Mar 19, 2022 15:02:06 GMT 1
Been said before, it goes up quick, but comes down slow.
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
We are all going to suffer huge price rises but at least the war is not quite at our back door.
Rural type here 😉😂 Must admit I am dead against the burning of s**te wood burnt in wood burners . The smoke and smell is horrendous . I should know , I live next door to someone who fires up sending bloody particulates everywhere . It seriously isn’t a laughing matter . Anyhow , I think he will have to stop soon and burn only kiln dried wood . I had an oil delivery 2 weeks ago and paid 70.9 p per litre . Had to query my bill yesterday , all good but I asked the firm how much are they charging now . The cost per litre quoted was 90.9 ppl . and rising . Hope back end the cost has come down a lot . Genuinely feel for those who are really struggling with increased costs for almost everything . Time to dig up some of the garden and start planting I think . I'm amazed you got that price. A neighbour of ours had to pay about £1.05 last week and that's already looking like a good deal. Particulates are a real health hazard, though less so in more spacious rural areas. I think burning wet wood (moisture content above 20%) and house coal have already been outlawed, although the rules are confusing. We have two stoves but only use one daily and buy manufactured briquettes (effectively compressed waste wood product and sawdust) for those. The moisture content of those is about 5-10%. Occasionally, we'll burn some logs but only after it's been seasoned for a year or more. We never buy kiln dried wood though. It doesn't sit right with me to buy a supposedly natural fuel for burning that requires an energy consuming process to prepare it. Time and dry air does that job without using resources or producing emissions. I love the sun being out like it is now - warms the house better than anything! |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 19, 2022 15:02:36 GMT 1
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
Not true. You seem to assume that "rural types" are uniformly affluent. They/we are not. You also seem to view us as something out of an eighteenth century painting of peasant folk, spending our every day foraging for wood. If you burned wood you'd know it has to be seasoned to burn efficiently and more cleanly - so it has to be stored for 1-3 years depending on the type of wood. And where do you suggest we "collect" our wood? Landowners aren't usually so generous as to let you take their wood as and when you want it. The reality is you have to buy logs or manufactured briquettes - at prices that are linked to the price of other fuels. Oil has been a more expensive fuel than gas for many years. Even the boilers to burn it are more expensive. But it's the only option for most "rural types" if you want central heating, unless you opt for even more expensive LPG or electricity. That buy in August rule doesn't work as neatly as you assume when you have to use oil all year round to get hot water. You can't just fill the tank once and settle back for winter. We've always been quite sparing with out oil use but we still get through two tanks a year - 2,500 litres. I spoke to someone last week who reckons he needs a refill every 6 weeks - hard to sustain at over £1,500 a time. Gas and electricity prices are about to go up 50% and there are howls of pain and outrage. I sympathise - our electricity prices are going up at the same rate. But our oil price went up 300% almost overnight, with no price cap protection and no upper limit if things get worse. As if that wasn't bad enough, suppliers have been unable to fulfil orders. When you ring a supplier now, you can't just order a delivery to arrive in a few days' time, as you could a few weeks ago. They tell you they'll call you back in 2 weeks or so and quote you a price - that is if they're even accepting any orders at all, which a lot of suppliers have been unable to do. Imagine that if your tank is empty and the weather's cold - no heating and no hot water, unless you have an immersion heater. Why are we not sheltered from price hikes the way gas users are? You might have been joking but, believe me, it's not really a laughing matter for many of those affected. We're amongst the lucky "rural types". We limit our use of oil and can still afford to refill our near-empty tank - if a supplier will allow us to, that is. And we still have enough fuel for the stove to see us past the end of the cold weather. But a lot of people won't be so fortunate and are getting tired of being ignored.  i used to live in the country and i know exactly what you are saying , it does seem very unfair on rural areas were for many oil or LPG are the only option and there is no price cap . |
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 19, 2022 15:04:39 GMT 1
As for the rural types, had it good for years with cheap oil - the rule has always been get that tank filled in August then ride out the price rises until the weather gets better. Rural types are often also in a position to collect wood and burn it in their wood burners.
Not true. You seem to assume that "rural types" are uniformly affluent. They/we are not. You also seem to view us as something out of an eighteenth century painting of peasant folk, spending our every day foraging for wood. If you burned wood you'd know it has to be seasoned to burn efficiently and more cleanly - so it has to be stored for 1-3 years depending on the type of wood. And where do you suggest we "collect" our wood? Landowners aren't usually so generous as to let you take their wood as and when you want it. The reality is you have to buy logs or manufactured briquettes - at prices that are linked to the price of other fuels. Oil has been a more expensive fuel than gas for many years. Even the boilers to burn it are more expensive. But it's the only option for most "rural types" if you want central heating, unless you opt for even more expensive LPG or electricity. That buy in August rule doesn't work as neatly as you assume when you have to use oil all year round to get hot water. You can't just fill the tank once and settle back for winter. We've always been quite sparing with out oil use but we still get through two tanks a year - 2,500 litres. I spoke to someone last week who reckons he needs a refill every 6 weeks - hard to sustain at over £1,500 a time. Gas and electricity prices are about to go up 50% and there are howls of pain and outrage. I sympathise - our electricity prices are going up at the same rate. But our oil price went up 300% almost overnight, with no price cap protection and no upper limit if things get worse. As if that wasn't bad enough, suppliers have been unable to fulfil orders. When you ring a supplier now, you can't just order a delivery to arrive in a few days' time, as you could a few weeks ago. They tell you they'll call you back in 2 weeks or so and quote you a price - that is if they're even accepting any orders at all, which a lot of suppliers have been unable to do. Imagine that if your tank is empty and the weather's cold - no heating and no hot water, unless you have an immersion heater. Why are we not sheltered from price hikes the way gas users are? You might have been joking but, believe me, it's not really a laughing matter for many of those affected. We're amongst the lucky "rural types". We limit our use of oil and can still afford to refill our near-empty tank - if a supplier will allow us to, that is. And we still have enough fuel for the stove to see us past the end of the cold weather. But a lot of people won't be so fortunate and are getting tired of being ignored. I order heating oil for someone with oil fired. The price has been lower, bearing in mind the cost of living rises, than I used to pay when I had oil for a few years. I ordered in August and topped up in early December 2021, the weather was pretty warm then if I remember rightly, so the price was reasonable, so as to be ready for any cold spell that we were bound to get. |
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Post by venceremos on Mar 19, 2022 15:07:47 GMT 1
Not true. You seem to assume that "rural types" are uniformly affluent. They/we are not. You also seem to view us as something out of an eighteenth century painting of peasant folk, spending our every day foraging for wood. If you burned wood you'd know it has to be seasoned to burn efficiently and more cleanly - so it has to be stored for 1-3 years depending on the type of wood. And where do you suggest we "collect" our wood? Landowners aren't usually so generous as to let you take their wood as and when you want it. The reality is you have to buy logs or manufactured briquettes - at prices that are linked to the price of other fuels. Oil has been a more expensive fuel than gas for many years. Even the boilers to burn it are more expensive. But it's the only option for most "rural types" if you want central heating, unless you opt for even more expensive LPG or electricity. That buy in August rule doesn't work as neatly as you assume when you have to use oil all year round to get hot water. You can't just fill the tank once and settle back for winter. We've always been quite sparing with out oil use but we still get through two tanks a year - 2,500 litres. I spoke to someone last week who reckons he needs a refill every 6 weeks - hard to sustain at over £1,500 a time. Gas and electricity prices are about to go up 50% and there are howls of pain and outrage. I sympathise - our electricity prices are going up at the same rate. But our oil price went up 300% almost overnight, with no price cap protection and no upper limit if things get worse. As if that wasn't bad enough, suppliers have been unable to fulfil orders. When you ring a supplier now, you can't just order a delivery to arrive in a few days' time, as you could a few weeks ago. They tell you they'll call you back in 2 weeks or so and quote you a price - that is if they're even accepting any orders at all, which a lot of suppliers have been unable to do. Imagine that if your tank is empty and the weather's cold - no heating and no hot water, unless you have an immersion heater. Why are we not sheltered from price hikes the way gas users are? You might have been joking but, believe me, it's not really a laughing matter for many of those affected. We're amongst the lucky "rural types". We limit our use of oil and can still afford to refill our near-empty tank - if a supplier will allow us to, that is. And we still have enough fuel for the stove to see us past the end of the cold weather. But a lot of people won't be so fortunate and are getting tired of being ignored.  i used to live in the country and i know exactly what you are saying , it does seem very unfair on rural areas were for many oil or LPG are the only option and there is no price cap . We used to live on the gas grid - no supply problems, price protected, no advance payment required so you could carry on heating even if you fell into arrears. There would be riots in the streets now if "urban types" had to endure the fuel situation rural types are currently living through. |
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Post by venceremos on Mar 19, 2022 15:11:42 GMT 1
Not true. You seem to assume that "rural types" are uniformly affluent. They/we are not. You also seem to view us as something out of an eighteenth century painting of peasant folk, spending our every day foraging for wood. If you burned wood you'd know it has to be seasoned to burn efficiently and more cleanly - so it has to be stored for 1-3 years depending on the type of wood. And where do you suggest we "collect" our wood? Landowners aren't usually so generous as to let you take their wood as and when you want it. The reality is you have to buy logs or manufactured briquettes - at prices that are linked to the price of other fuels. Oil has been a more expensive fuel than gas for many years. Even the boilers to burn it are more expensive. But it's the only option for most "rural types" if you want central heating, unless you opt for even more expensive LPG or electricity. That buy in August rule doesn't work as neatly as you assume when you have to use oil all year round to get hot water. You can't just fill the tank once and settle back for winter. We've always been quite sparing with out oil use but we still get through two tanks a year - 2,500 litres. I spoke to someone last week who reckons he needs a refill every 6 weeks - hard to sustain at over £1,500 a time. Gas and electricity prices are about to go up 50% and there are howls of pain and outrage. I sympathise - our electricity prices are going up at the same rate. But our oil price went up 300% almost overnight, with no price cap protection and no upper limit if things get worse. As if that wasn't bad enough, suppliers have been unable to fulfil orders. When you ring a supplier now, you can't just order a delivery to arrive in a few days' time, as you could a few weeks ago. They tell you they'll call you back in 2 weeks or so and quote you a price - that is if they're even accepting any orders at all, which a lot of suppliers have been unable to do. Imagine that if your tank is empty and the weather's cold - no heating and no hot water, unless you have an immersion heater. Why are we not sheltered from price hikes the way gas users are? You might have been joking but, believe me, it's not really a laughing matter for many of those affected. We're amongst the lucky "rural types". We limit our use of oil and can still afford to refill our near-empty tank - if a supplier will allow us to, that is. And we still have enough fuel for the stove to see us past the end of the cold weather. But a lot of people won't be so fortunate and are getting tired of being ignored. I order heating oil for someone with oil fired. The price has been lower, bearing in mind the cost of living rises, than I used to pay when I had oil for a few years. I ordered in August and topped up in early December 2021, the weather was pretty warm then if I remember rightly, so the price was reasonable, so as to be ready for any cold spell that we were bound to get. All very well but (a) your tank size (and available funds - you have to pay in advance for the fuel) limits your ability to stock up while you think the price is good and (b) while the oil price fluctuates it's still linked to wholesale oil and gas prices, so if oil seems cheap it's a pretty safe bet that gas will be relatively cheaper still. When prices go the other way, there's nothing to stop the price of oil far outstripping that of gas, as we're seeing now. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 22, 2022 14:07:25 GMT 1
I was talking to someone today who making conversation with the cashier when she went to fill io the other day, pretty much asking how much more will the price go up.
The cashier replied that they had had another delivery in over the weekend and the price hadnt gone up. As if it was something to celebrate ffs.
And the important thing was that 'it hadnt gone up', rather than 'it came down'. Think this will be an issue with the forecourts, they will be very reluctant to bring prices down to a fair price.
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i used to live in the country and i know exactly what you are saying , it does seem very unfair on rural areas were for many oil or LPG are the only option and there is no price cap .
i used to live in the country and i know exactly what you are saying , it does seem very unfair on rural areas were for many oil or LPG are the only option and there is no price cap .