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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 10, 2022 21:59:43 GMT 1
I hope enough people are out on the streets forcibly removing them. Russian tactics on these protesters maybe? We don't sink to Putin tactics. That's what enables us to call him out. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 10, 2022 22:34:21 GMT 1
So the answer to 'We could end the need to import foreign oil and gas and export more to reduce international reliance on Russian energy". is "In response, the First Minister said she had set out 'hard, practical reasons' why Mr Ross' requests would not work to mitigate the impact of rising prices." Maybe she needs to learn how to listen effectively? she is also playing politics Strugeon needs the greens to stay in power and can then also blame nasty Boris if he pushes ahead with new oli / gas fields in the north sea . www.gbnews.uk/news/boris-johnson-looking-at-all-options-on-fracking-as-pressure-mounts-to-invest-in-uk-energy-alternative/243974"Under pressure from some Tory MPs, it was suggested two Cuadrilla sites in Lancashire may be handed over to the British Geological Survey rather than being concreted over." |
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 11, 2022 11:26:15 GMT 1
Classic knee jerk reactions:
"it was suggested two Cuadrilla sites in Lancashire may be handed over to the British Geological Survey rather than being concreted over."
So fracking was considered so risky in our small island that the sites were going to be concreted over - that really doesn't sound like something we should reconsider.
Turning back Russian oil tankers: that's ok now, all Russian oil imports should be phased out, but some of those tankers in the last week or two were in transit, once in transit the oil in the tanker is paid for - when people won't unload it in this country, it is sold on at a discount - maybe even back to the Russian supplier who can then sell it on to a country that will take it at the new higher price. Stopping the unloading of in transit tankers doesn't look so clever then, does it?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 11, 2022 14:04:31 GMT 1
Same for me at 20:45hrs last night at Sainsburys. However the wife went on the way to work this morning at 08:30hrs and it had gone up to 154.9p but all pumps working. as I drove past sanisburys this morning I noticed diesel was now 154.9 there Today 165.9 😲 |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 11, 2022 16:06:54 GMT 1
as I drove past sanisburys this morning I noticed diesel was now 154.9 there Today 165.9 😲 Unleaded gone up 8p overnight too it seems, 157.9p, was 145.9p yesterday. Still, the lesser of all evils for me though unfortunately I’ll just have to pay it and get on with it. What a rip off. |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 11, 2022 16:09:52 GMT 1
Unleaded gone up 8p overnight too it seems, 157.9p, was 145.9p yesterday. Still, the lesser of all evils for me though unfortunately I’ll just have to pay it and get on with it. What a rip off. Almost 10% rise since I filled up on tues |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 11, 2022 16:20:11 GMT 1
Interesting development on the Telford Shell garages RIP off.
Sutton Maddock have so far no joined in the excessive price increases, their prices being about normal for the current time.
I went past this morning and they were just having a delivery. On the way back they too have increased their prices as expected. But only by 2p/ltr on both petrol and diesel. Now 162.9 and 173.9 respectively.
Seems not ALL the Shell stations are rip off merchants.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 11, 2022 16:40:06 GMT 1
Biden must be desperate for such a u turn on Venezuela !! www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/09/saudi-arabia-and-uae-leaders-decline-calls-with-biden-amid-fears-of-oil-price-spike"The Gulf nations have capacity to pump more oil to ease supply fears but relations with the US have chilled under Biden,According to the Wall Street Journal, citing Middle East and US officials, both Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and the UAE’s Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al Nahyan have been unavailable to Biden after US requests were made for discussions." However, the US has for the first time in years opened up diplomatic channels with Venezuela, a Russian ally and which has the world’s largest oil reserves. Venezuela has now released at least two Americans from jail in an apparent goodwill gesture toward the Biden administration in a possible prelude to increasing production to ease the price surge. Relations between the US and Saudi Arabia have chilled during the Biden administration over American policy in the Gulf region." www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-set-trap-venezuela-biden-just-stepped-it-n1291486"Now that the United States has placed a ban on Russian oil in response to Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, a secret visit by senior U.S. officials over the weekend to the oil-rich country of Venezuela is cast in a new light. The blatantly hypocritical course of action confirms, once again, that American interests will always win out, no matter who is involved. Maduro’s conciliatory remarks would suggest that when oil and money are involved, inconveniences like drug trafficking charges against him shouldn’t get in the way." |
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Post by venceremos on Mar 11, 2022 17:16:27 GMT 1
Driving through Cheshire yesterday, I'm sure the traffic was a bit lighter and speeds generally a bit lower. It could just have been that my awareness was heightened as I drove with a regular check on my own mpg stat, but then again I wasn't being overtaken - it seemed like almost everyone was doing the same. Good development if true. Meanwhile, the price of heating oil has literally gone off the scale according to the BoilerJuice website. I paid 50-odd pence per litre about 3 months ago and today's price is higher than what I paid for petrol yesterday!  It's appalling that it isn't subject to the same price cap as gas or electricity. If you have no gas supply, as most rural communities don't, you're likely to have an oil boiler. Who's protecting the elderly and vulnerable who simply won't be able to afford a 200% price increase since they last refuelled?  |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 11, 2022 18:08:56 GMT 1
Sainsbury's at Meole out of (or very close to out of) fuel this avo apparently. Panic buying creeping in again as prices soar.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 11, 2022 18:24:26 GMT 1
Sainsbury's at Meole out of (or very close to out of) fuel this avo apparently. Panic buying creeping in again as prices soar. Pathetic. You could put a statement on Facebook with zero information or source saying there's going to be worldwide shortages of pasta and your friends would be out buying it up. This is the closest I get to social media thankfully, can't be dealing with it. |
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Post by Coops on Mar 11, 2022 21:26:13 GMT 1
£1.91 in SHELL market Drayton. Morrisons next door £1.63. Oil price is at record levels, I get that, but SHELL are taking the p**s. I feel a Boycott is on the cards 😁😁
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 11, 2022 22:37:09 GMT 1
£1.91 in SHELL market Drayton. Morrisons next door £1.63. Oil price is at record levels, I get that, but SHELL are taking the p**s. I feel a Boycott is on the cards 😁😁 Hope people remember what Shell are trying to do long after this crisis is over and boycott them for a long time for their greed. I would only use a Shell station now if they were the only place left with fuel. |
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 12, 2022 8:23:13 GMT 1
Can't work out Shell on Thieves Lane ...
Unleaded £169.9
Diesel £179.9
I'm only passing by, by that's a big drop by their standards from diesel @ £195.9 in the week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 9:42:59 GMT 1
Sainsbury's at Meole out of (or very close to out of) fuel this avo apparently. Panic buying creeping in again as prices soar. Thankfully we can always rely on the common sense of the british people👍 |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 12, 2022 10:30:23 GMT 1
Sainsbury's at Meole out of (or very close to out of) fuel this avo apparently. Panic buying creeping in again as prices soar. Thankfully we can always rely on the common sense of the british people👍 Playing devil's advocate a bit here but what are people supposed to do? If you need fuel to get to work and are concerned it will double by next week it makes sense to fill up now. Equally if you fear others are coming yo the same conclusion and you live somewhere not served by public transport. The real issue is our economic system which is completely unable to adapt to short term changes in demand but nobody wants to talk about that for some reason so it's back to "blame the public" again. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 10:41:50 GMT 1
Thankfully we can always rely on the common sense of the british people👍 Playing devil's advocate a bit here but what are people supposed to do? If you need fuel to get to work and are concerned it will double by next week it makes sense to fill up now. Equally if you fear others are coming yo the same conclusion and you live somewhere not served by public transport. The real issue is our economic system which is completely unable to adapt to short term changes in demand but nobody wants to talk about that for some reason so it's back to "blame the public" again. My apologies. My sarcasm was aimed at those who, in relation more to covid, keep telling us to trust the common sense of the British people.👍 |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 12, 2022 10:42:30 GMT 1
Thankfully we can always rely on the common sense of the british people👍 Playing devil's advocate a bit here but what are people supposed to do? If you need fuel to get to work and are concerned it will double by next week it makes sense to fill up now. Equally if you fear others are coming yo the same conclusion and you live somewhere not served by public transport. The real issue is our economic system which is completely unable to adapt to short term changes in demand but nobody wants to talk about that for some reason so it's back to "blame the public" again. I always dislike the use of “playing devils advocate “ I interpret to read , everyone is wrong but here’s the correct opinion 😜 I do agree with it actually Topped mine up on Tuesday and may have saved £4 However if it drops sharply in the next couple of weeks we are both wrong and I’ve overspent 🤣 |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Mar 12, 2022 10:44:23 GMT 1
Can't work out Shell on Thieves Lane ... Unleaded £169.9 Diesel £179.9 I'm only passing by, by that's a big drop by their standards from diesel @ £195.9 in the week. Probs finally realised hardly anybody's stupid enough to pay their prices. There has literally been nobody there, it's clear a lot of people have boycotted them. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2022 11:11:53 GMT 1
Can't work out Shell on Thieves Lane ... Unleaded £169.9 Diesel £179.9 I'm only passing by, by that's a big drop by their standards from diesel @ £195.9 in the week. Probs finally realised hardly anybody's stupid enough to pay their prices. There has literally been nobody there, it's clear a lot of people have boycotted them. So perhaps it would help if rather than people panic buying we did the exact opposite, only made essential journeys, car shared with friends and family if possible, really bite the bullet and walk, cycle, use the bus for a couple of weeks so no one’s buying petrol. Problem is they’ll then put their prices up cos they have to make their profits from fewer people. So basically we are screwed and the b******* no it! I’m waiting on delivery of an electric car, just in time for electricity prices to go through the roof. Maybe solar panels are the answer? Watch the price of them soar! |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 12, 2022 11:46:57 GMT 1
the sky rocketing price of fuel is going to a biger part of evryones budget we are been squeezed on every side between food price rices,( a type of loaf i like went up 20p in a week) electricity, gas rises and council tax rises .electic cars are incredibly expensive but if fuel prices dont come down then the cost savings of not paying for petrol might make htem more cost effective over a 5 year period .
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 12, 2022 13:08:54 GMT 1
Can't work out Shell on Thieves Lane ... Unleaded £169.9 Diesel £179.9 I'm only passing by, by that's a big drop by their standards from diesel @ £195.9 in the week. Probs finally realised hardly anybody's stupid enough to pay their prices. There has literally been nobody there, it's clear a lot of people have boycotted them. And will hopefully continue to boycott them for some time to come. Those who have resorted to money grabbing need to learn a hard lesson imo. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 12, 2022 13:51:02 GMT 1
these figures will have got a lot worse through covid and with all the rise in costs these are the people who will struggle, also there has been an increase in people who use food banks who are in debt to either the govermennt or local goverment or both 48% of people who use food banks are in this situation a 28% increase in one year ( from this weeks Big issue) cybercrew.uk/blog/debt-statistics-uk/The average debt in the UK was over £1.7 billion at the end of November 2021. The average total debt per household in 2021 was £63,112. Unsecured debt from personal loans was estimated at £208 billion in 2019. As stated in UK personal debt statistics, 63% of UK adults had personal debt in 2019. In 2018, every household debt grew by nearly £1000 compared to the previous year. Only 9% of the household debts are financial debts, while the rest are property debts (as of 2019). The fixed rate for a 2-year mortgage was 1.79%. According to personal debt in the UK, the average total debt per adult was £32,053 in 2021. In December 2021, interest for credit card loans was 21%. Little over half of the UK’s adult population living in large towns have debt. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 12, 2022 14:15:35 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 12, 2022 19:17:14 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 12, 2022 23:12:31 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 13, 2022 13:50:47 GMT 1
Probs finally realised hardly anybody's stupid enough to pay their prices. There has literally been nobody there, it's clear a lot of people have boycotted them. And will hopefully continue to boycott them for some time to come. Those who have resorted to money grabbing need to learn a hard lesson imo. Never used Shell in 10+ years of driving and never will. I’d go as far to say I disagree with another post above, I wouldn’t even use them if I was desperate now, after their Russia antics and pricing. Disgraceful ****ers |
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Post by Pilch on Mar 13, 2022 13:53:58 GMT 1
yeah, march 23rd  |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 13, 2022 16:26:38 GMT 1
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 13, 2022 17:35:37 GMT 1
Also noticed the difference in diesel to petrol is now upto 16p (BP at Meole) Why?
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