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Post by Pilch on Oct 18, 2021 21:28:54 GMT 1
We won there when the slippery one was in charge. The manager left us to triple his salary in the division above. Would you leave Citroen to sell BMWs for 3x more? Obviously you would. As long as he doesn’t make a hash of a monemental sale just before he leaves and then take the best 2 cars from the showroom with him and leave a bottle Of whisky on the desk saying goodbye then fair play to him
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 18, 2021 21:30:59 GMT 1
The manager left us to triple his salary in the division above. Would you leave Citroen to sell BMWs for 3x more? Obviously you would. As long as he doesn’t make a hash of a monemental sale just before he leaves and then take the best 2 cars from the showroom with him and leave a bottle Of whisky on the desk saying goodbye then fair play to him Could be seen as buying two dud cars for a mad price to help his former employer.
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Post by gtismygod on Oct 18, 2021 21:32:04 GMT 1
We won there when the slippery one was in charge. The manager left us to triple his salary in the division above. Would you leave Citroen to sell BMWs for 3x more? Obviously you would. How many times has this debate been done on this message board? Yet people still can’t seem to grasp why the man is so disliked. I will repeat myself for the thousandth time: nobody begrudges him leaving us for a much better salary at a big championship club; it was the lack of commitment during his last few weeks in charge, as well as the overall lack of respect he showed to the football club which rubbed many supporters up the wrong way. Myself included.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 18, 2021 22:04:46 GMT 1
Exactly. It’s not what he did, it’s the way that he did it.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 18, 2021 22:06:53 GMT 1
The manager left us to triple his salary in the division above. Would you leave Citroen to sell BMWs for 3x more? Obviously you would. How many times has this debate been done on this message board? Yet people still can’t seem to grasp why the man is so disliked. I will repeat myself for the thousandth time: nobody begrudges him leaving us for a much better salary at a big championship club; it was the lack of commitment during his last few weeks in charge, as well as the overall lack of respect he showed to the football club which rubbed many supporters up the wrong way. Myself included. not to mention sitting on the coach back from Wembley discussing the following seasons plans with RW, I bet he never hinted to RW than we might need a new star defender and midfielder at short notice not to mention a new manager
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 22:34:42 GMT 1
How many times has this debate been done on this message board? Yet people still can’t seem to grasp why the man is so disliked. I will repeat myself for the thousandth time: nobody begrudges him leaving us for a much better salary at a big championship club; it was the lack of commitment during his last few weeks in charge, as well as the overall lack of respect he showed to the football club which rubbed many supporters up the wrong way. Myself included. not to mention sitting on the coach back from Wembley discussing the following seasons plans with RW, I bet he never hinted to RW than we might need a new star defender and midfielder at short notice not to mention a new manager Just about anyone who took a passing interest in Salop had heard the 'Hurst to Ipswich' rumour. The idea Brian and Roland were blindsided beggars belief. Maybe they should have spent more time in Block 19 and less time poncing about in the Sovereign club!
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Post by Pilch on Oct 18, 2021 22:39:05 GMT 1
not to mention sitting on the coach back from Wembley discussing the following seasons plans with RW, I bet he never hinted to RW than we might need a new star defender and midfielder at short notice not to mention a new manager Just about anyone who took a passing interest in Salop had heard the 'Hurst to Ipswich' rumour. The idea Brian and Roland were blindside beggars belief. Maybe they should have spent more time in Block 19 and less time poncing about in the Sovereign club! or maybe they trusted the system and hurst having paid £50k to grimsby for the privilege of approaching hurst just for initial discussions, and then not hearing anything from Ipswich and hurst denying all rumours
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 22:57:44 GMT 1
Just about anyone who took a passing interest in Salop had heard the 'Hurst to Ipswich' rumour. The idea Brian and Roland were blindside beggars belief. Maybe they should have spent more time in Block 19 and less time poncing about in the Sovereign club! or maybe they trusted the system and hurst having paid £50k to grimsby for the privilege of approaching hurst just for initial discussions, and then not hearing anything from Ipswich and hurst denying all rumours Hurst paid £50k to Grimsby to approach himself? The plot thickens! I know we get accused of being amateurish at times, but that suggests a level of naivety that would make the family stand blush.
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Post by Exkeeper on Oct 18, 2021 23:18:29 GMT 1
We won there when the slippery one was in charge. If you mean Hurst no we didn’t. Though we may have if Carlton Morris effort was given as it looked to have gone over the line. Memory failure, it was under Mellon. Boxing Day 2014 - played them off the park and won 2-0. How the hell can that have been seven years ago?
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Post by Dale on Oct 19, 2021 4:57:56 GMT 1
Exactly. It’s not what he did, it’s the way that he did it. But we’ve only ever heard one side of the story after Caldwell’s wife blabbed out on Twitter, PH has always kept silent on the matter.
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 19, 2021 7:42:02 GMT 1
Agreed but his behaviour at Wembley as told to me by fans seated behind the dug out and the fact that there was no acknowledgement by him to the fans who had supported him and paid their money to do so throughout the season just doesn’t sit right with me regardless of what went on at the club.
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 19, 2021 7:54:13 GMT 1
How many times has this debate been done on this message board? Yet people still can’t seem to grasp why the man is so disliked. I will repeat myself for the thousandth time: nobody begrudges him leaving us for a much better salary at a big championship club; it was the lack of commitment during his last few weeks in charge, as well as the overall lack of respect he showed to the football club which rubbed many supporters up the wrong way. Myself included. not to mention sitting on the coach back from Wembley discussing the following seasons plans with RW, I bet he never hinted to RW than we might need a new star defender and midfielder at short notice not to mention a new manager If you believe that, you'll believe anything. Caldwell knew full well he was going. To suggest anything else is utter nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 8:41:12 GMT 1
Well this thread has taken a twist!
On the subject of Hurst, I've said it before that I'm struggling to see a realistic scenario that would see Ipswich being happy, Hurst being happy, Roland/Brian being happy and us as fans being happy. Actually I see one way which is the same events had happened prior to Wembley but we win that day, yes some people would still have complained but the majority would have been grateful for him getting us promoted and wished him well. Ultimately that is what this comes down to, we lost that day and some people think that us losing that day is somehow as a result of him being distracted or not being bothered by whether we won or lost. Both of those claims are utter nonsense (well in my opinion anyway)
Anyway, back to Oxford, only went there once. before the game their fans were abusing Jemson as the coach arrived, he told them **** off, I think we won 1-0 with a Jemson goal and he spent about 5 minutes celebrating the goal and milking it. Classic Jemson
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Post by secretshrew on Oct 19, 2021 9:10:59 GMT 1
Well this thread has taken a twist! On the subject of Hurst, I've said it before that I'm struggling to see a realistic scenario that would see Ipswich being happy, Hurst being happy, Roland/Brian being happy and us as fans being happy. Actually I see one way which is the same events had happened prior to Wembley but we win that day, yes some people would still have complained but the majority would have been grateful for him getting us promoted and wished him well. Ultimately that is what this comes down to, we lost that day and some people think that us losing that day is somehow as a result of him being distracted or not being bothered by whether we won or lost. Both of those claims are utter nonsense (well in my opinion anyway) Anyway, back to Oxford, only went there once. before the game their fans were abusing Jemson as the coach arrived, he told them **** off, I think we won 1-0 with a Jemson goal and he spent about 5 minutes celebrating the goal and milking it. Classic Jemson Yes, back to Oxford indeed! I'm going for a 1-0 win. I don't think there's a brandy in my coffee?!!?
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Post by ssshrew on Oct 19, 2021 9:18:20 GMT 1
Oh yes I remember the Jemson goal. If I remember correctly their fans had given him stick all game and yes he milked it for all he was worth!
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 19, 2021 11:11:56 GMT 1
Going to continue the tradition of not tuning in, Saturday was the first game I'd missed minus the pizza trophy or not seen on iFollow, looks like we could use all the help we can get so I'm going to take one for the team, let's hope another 1-0 win follows.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 19, 2021 11:34:23 GMT 1
“We’ve been punished by set-pieces and counter-attacks," that is an understatment scholboy defending, gaping holes at the center of defence were players have had all the time and space they wont and not tracking players, free headers at the near post and back post, untill the last game have been a feature of towns defence let us hopr after a clean these horror shows are a thing of the past. www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2021/10/19/aaron-wilbraham-admits-shrewsbury-town-surprise-at-start-ahead-of-oxford-clash/"Assistant boss Aaron Wilbraham admits Shrewsbury Town have been ‘surprised’ by their poor start to the season.But Steve Cotterill’s lieutenant has backed Town troops to continue to turn the tide at Oxford United tonight as Salop aim for their first consecutive wins of the campaign. Saturday’s victory lifted Town two places to 21st but ninth-placed hosts Oxford pose another stern test for Cotterill’s stretched ranks. The thin squad could be without four players due to injury and suspension tonight. “We know we’ve had a difficult start to the season but we know we’ve been in almost every game,” said Wilbraham, who filled in the hotseat while the manager was ill last season.“With how hard the lads worked, the planning gone into games, everybody has given it their all and sometimes you don’t get what you deserve. “We’ve been punished by set-pieces and counter-attacks, things teams get away with, and we just haven’t so far. We hope we’ve had our bad luck and things turn around. “I’ve been at clubs where people aren’t giving their all and it can be worrying, but each player and member of staff is giving everything on the training ground, so it was surprising to us that we didn’t get the start we thought we were going to get.But you have to bounce back and I think the lads have started to show we can do that. “It has been at times like that (stretched) a little bit this season and we’ll have to do that again if the injuries don’t come through.” Josh Vela (knee) and Luke Leahy (suspended) miss out, while Aaron Pierre and George Nurse are fitness doubt"
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Post by gtismygod on Oct 19, 2021 11:50:33 GMT 1
No Vela, Leahy, Pierre or Nurse = serious alarm bells.
I’d bite your hand off for a point.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 19, 2021 12:40:12 GMT 1
not to mention sitting on the coach back from Wembley discussing the following seasons plans with RW, I bet he never hinted to RW than we might need a new star defender and midfielder at short notice not to mention a new manager Just about anyone who took a passing interest in Salop had heard the 'Hurst to Ipswich' rumour. The idea Brian and Roland were blindside beggars belief. Maybe they should have spent more time in Block 19 and less time poncing about in the Sovereign club! What beggars belief is they were not blind sided, as soon as they heard Ipswich’s interest they offered Hurst a vastly improved contract…….which he signed….
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Post by northwestman on Oct 19, 2021 12:48:32 GMT 1
"each player and member of staff is giving everything on the training ground".
Can someone please inform Cosgrove that he's expected to do the same during the actual game?
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Post by polas1949 on Oct 19, 2021 13:27:33 GMT 1
Whilst I too am frustrated by him we might see more of his finishing capabilities if he had some decent service. He seem to be having to chase everything, flick on headers which he rarely wins or receive the ball with his back to goal. Having looked at a number or videos it appears to me that he has scored most of his goals when the ball has been on the floor. I am not defending his lack of work rate but trying to point out what his strengths appear to be
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Post by Pilch on Oct 19, 2021 16:20:08 GMT 1
No Vela, Leahy, Pierre or Nurse = serious alarm bells. I’d bite your hand off for a point. I have a feeling we might set up with an overloaded defence, defensive midfield, and nothing up front like we do every game even home games like against crewe and wycombe and MKD and even wolves under 21s
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 19, 2021 16:34:54 GMT 1
Is game on I-follow tonight
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Post by Pilch on Oct 19, 2021 16:38:58 GMT 1
Is game on I-follow tonight yes
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 19, 2021 16:39:35 GMT 1
Be happy with anything over 0 points tonight. Fantastic point if we can snatch it given our squad predicament.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 19, 2021 18:48:31 GMT 1
its the lesser known 5-1-4
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Post by chameleon on Oct 19, 2021 18:53:08 GMT 1
That looks so unbalanced it could actually work.
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Post by albionshrew on Oct 19, 2021 18:54:53 GMT 1
Head 3-0 (minimum) Heart 1-2
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Oct 19, 2021 18:59:16 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 19:01:22 GMT 1
Pyke and Wilson on the bench...father and son (never said outright but often hinted)...
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