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Post by blamber on Jul 21, 2021 11:30:11 GMT 1
Given our lack of pre season friendlies, I was looking at how Lincoln City's pre season was going compared to us. Lincoln is a similar sized club with similar aspirations, give or take. They have played Reading, Forest, Boston, Norwich and will complete their pre season with a visit to Sc***horpe. I think most of their games have been played behind closed doors for obvious reasons. Not only will we have played fewer games but also we won't have played anyone that plays at either our level or above. I know the Tamworth cancellation was probably a bit of bad luck but I am very concerned that we have not managed a more testing pre season. Add to that, Pierre and Norburn are currently not part of the preparations and it would appear that we have still have work to do on recruitment. As many teams have, to be fair.
Managers and players, in particular, often talk about a 'lack of pre season' to explain under par performances, injuries and poor fitness levels. And this pre season feels very limited compared to previous seasons. I know we are still in a pandemic but nevertheless, I am very concerned about our preparation for the new season. Perhaps I am wrong to be worried and that it'll be fine come the Burton game.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jul 21, 2021 11:35:59 GMT 1
Add to that we have a weekend this weekend with no game ever planned which has always seemed a bit odd!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 21, 2021 15:19:43 GMT 1
We shouldnt be burnt out through playing too many games anyway.
Can expect a slow start to the season I think, doubt we will be racing away a la Paul Hurst this coming year. Just hope we can manage mid table for the first month or so and build from there.
Definately need 4/5/6 more players in the squad though.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Jul 21, 2021 20:27:52 GMT 1
Burton Albion website shows they have another 5 friendlies planned between now and season start, together with 3 already taken place.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 21, 2021 21:32:04 GMT 1
Burton Albion website shows they have another 5 friendlies planned between now and season start, together with 3 already taken place. Good, they'll be knackered by the time we play them!
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Post by cabanas2017 on Jul 25, 2021 12:21:21 GMT 1
Burton Albion website shows they have another 5 friendlies planned between now and season start, together with 3 already taken place. Good, they'll be knackered by the time we play them! I don’t agree, I think Burton will be a very tough fixture and their pre- season fixtures will mean they are well prepared. We have no game this weekend, I just don’t understand the reasoning for so few games. Disappointingly the likes of Lewis Cox and his media colleagues appear to scared to question the club about this either?
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Post by barrynic on Jul 25, 2021 13:46:33 GMT 1
Our players will be fit for the Burton game...but they will be far from match fit...which is a worry.
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Post by vladimir on Jul 25, 2021 13:59:07 GMT 1
Good, they'll be knackered by the time we play them! I don’t agree, I think Burton will be a very tough fixture and their pre- season fixtures will mean they are well prepared. We have no game this weekend, I just don’t understand the reasoning for so few games. Disappointingly the likes of Lewis Cox and his media colleagues appear to scared to question the club about this either? As posted on previous thread Cotterill rarely has his teams play many pre season games and the emphasis is on double sessions. I'm not worried at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 14:27:01 GMT 1
For those who subscribe to ifollow take a listen to Cotterills latest interview where he explains about 3 pre season friendlies - I’ve has a small squad and they’ve all got more minutes in or will have by the end of the Exeter game than if he’d had 5/6 pre season games with a bigger squad. It’s called managing his players and they’re being pushed that little bit harder in training to compensate - he’s certainly not worried about them not being ready for the Burton game and as SC rightly states, pre season results etc means nothing
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Post by wakemanender on Jul 25, 2021 14:37:00 GMT 1
Theres little doubt that a poor result against Burton will result in blame being pointed at the lack of friendlies. A good result will be praise for Cotterill for keeping his players fresh. Experienced manager who wont take much notice either way. In SC we trust.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 25, 2021 15:45:18 GMT 1
For those who subscribe to ifollow take a listen to Cotterills latest interview where he explains about 3 pre season friendlies - I’ve has a small squad and they’ve all got more minutes in or will have by the end of the Exeter game than if he’d had 5/6 pre season games with a bigger squad. It’s called managing his players and they’re being pushed that little bit harder in training to compensate - he’s certainly not worried about them not being ready for the Burton game and as SC rightly states, pre season results etc means nothing Still think it’s a gamble and the squad size is as much to do with budget and availability as choice but that’s just my opinion.We’ve got 16 outfield players including a couple of Academy players. Strange plan with 13 days to go but we’ll see soon. Important to win your first game especially at home.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2021 16:24:12 GMT 1
For those who subscribe to ifollow take a listen to Cotterills latest interview where he explains about 3 pre season friendlies - I’ve has a small squad and they’ve all got more minutes in or will have by the end of the Exeter game than if he’d had 5/6 pre season games with a bigger squad. It’s called managing his players and they’re being pushed that little bit harder in training to compensate - he’s certainly not worried about them not being ready for the Burton game and as SC rightly states, pre season results etc means nothing I'm willing to accept that and admit I'm wrong later but reserve the right to moan about it for the next 12 months if it backfires ;-)
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 25, 2021 22:51:50 GMT 1
Good, they'll be knackered by the time we play them! I don’t agree, I think Burton will be a very tough fixture and their pre- season fixtures will mean they are well prepared. We have no game this weekend, I just don’t understand the reasoning for so few games. Disappointingly the likes of Lewis Cox and his media colleagues appear to scared to question the club about this either? It seems to be the Steve Cotterill way. I was also only joking about them being cream crackered - though, hopefully not, but they could get some injured players. Some of these clubs. like Hereford, take a friendly with Shrewsbury or Burton very seriously.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 25, 2021 23:01:30 GMT 1
I don’t agree, I think Burton will be a very tough fixture and their pre- season fixtures will mean they are well prepared. We have no game this weekend, I just don’t understand the reasoning for so few games. Disappointingly the likes of Lewis Cox and his media colleagues appear to scared to question the club about this either? It seems to be the Steve Cotterill way. I was also only joking about them being cream crackered - though, hopefully not, but they could get some injured players. Some of these clubs. like Hereford, take a friendly with Shrewsbury or Burton very seriously. Hereford it so seriously that they brought on 11 trialists 😀
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Post by staffordshrew on Jul 25, 2021 23:08:33 GMT 1
It seems to be the Steve Cotterill way. I was also only joking about them being cream crackered - though, hopefully not, but they could get some injured players. Some of these clubs. like Hereford, take a friendly with Shrewsbury or Burton very seriously. Hereford it so seriously that they brought on 11 trialists 😀 That was after they had given us a damn good run for our money though
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Post by ipswichshrews on Jul 26, 2021 10:21:46 GMT 1
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 26, 2021 14:44:23 GMT 1
I think Steve's earned the right to a bit of trust that he knows what he's doing by now. The guy's been in football management long enough now (and certainly longer than anyone on this thread), I think he knows how to judge whether he thinks his players are fit enough.
Seem to remember Jake King arranging dozens of friendlies one year. Didn't turn us into world beaters. In fact, I cannot remember a single time we've collectively looked back on a season and determined that pre season was the cause of success or failure.
It does seem like a convenient stick for those of us who are desperate for Steve to fail so they can shout "told you so" and tell us we were wrong for advocating for the removal of their one true lord and saviour to best the rest with though.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 17, 2021 21:52:26 GMT 1
For those who subscribe to ifollow take a listen to Cotterills latest interview where he explains about 3 pre season friendlies - I’ve has a small squad and they’ve all got more minutes in or will have by the end of the Exeter game than if he’d had 5/6 pre season games with a bigger squad. It’s called managing his players and they’re being pushed that little bit harder in training to compensate - he’s certainly not worried about them not being ready for the Burton game and as SC rightly states, pre season results etc means nothing I'm willing to accept that and admit I'm wrong later but reserve the right to moan about it for the next 12 months if it backfires ;-) a couple more midfielders and I think we are ready to start the season wouldn't it be amazing if we went on the win the league lol I do actually fancy 3 points saturday and maybe a new player in the squad I guess this has as much to do with those above SC than he wanted himself
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Post by Pilch on Aug 24, 2021 22:34:35 GMT 1
For those who subscribe to ifollow take a listen to Cotterills latest interview where he explains about 3 pre season friendlies - I’ve has a small squad and they’ve all got more minutes in or will have by the end of the Exeter game than if he’d had 5/6 pre season games with a bigger squad. It’s called managing his players and they’re being pushed that little bit harder in training to compensate - he’s certainly not worried about them not being ready for the Burton game and as SC rightly states, pre season results etc means nothing I'm willing to accept that and admit I'm wrong later but reserve the right to moan about it for the next 12 months if it backfires ;-) bump
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