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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 11:46:02 GMT 1
Right the question has to be asked. Will you be ditching yours come (erm).... "Freedon Day"?
For me it's a resounding YES, in most circumstances at least. Happy to wear one in a doctors / hospital / care home setting and on aeroplanes (if ever....) but not in many others. Might put one on in very crowded indoor places, though I tend not to be in those sort of places very much anyway.
Had a very occasional visit to Telford Centre yesterday and at least 20-25 have already ditched theirs, and nearly as many were using theirs as chin warmers.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 11:48:45 GMT 1
No - will continue to wear in places where there are congregations of people be it at the supermarket or football stadium etc
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Post by shrewder on Jul 17, 2021 11:49:45 GMT 1
Will use one where appropriate. Will certainly use one on public transport and in shops.
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Post by ssshrew on Jul 17, 2021 11:53:15 GMT 1
No. Cases are rising up here in Wakefield. I don’t wear one outdoors anyway and don’t go to many crowded places if I can avoid them.
But shops, medical places and anywhere else they ask me to wear one I will.
I visited a local shop this week and casually asked the lady if they would be keeping masks and the screen. She said that the owner had said they would be. She was very relieved as she has been shielding and has only just returned to work. She said that she wasn’t sure what she would do after Monday. I don’t know what was the matter with her but I would never have known she had needed to shield. There will be other people the same as her who need some normality in their lives so if me wearing a mask helps this then I’m quite happy to do so.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jul 17, 2021 12:30:43 GMT 1
No, it’s no big deal for me. My actions will not change just because the government think it’s safe to relax these things. However, if I want to pop into a shop which wasn’t planned when I’m just out and about walking and I don’t have my mask, at least I have the option of going in the shop and probably still will.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 17, 2021 12:46:11 GMT 1
I'll be making a judgement call based on the situation; rule if thumb, crowded indoor place yes, lots of room/ventilation no, outside no.
Really hope people will do this rather than going down the childish binary anti/pro route.
Burning your mask and refusing to ever put another on or freaking out and berating anyone not wearing one regardless of circumstances are both equally unhelpful approaches.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 17, 2021 12:47:06 GMT 1
Certainly won't be using one in a pub or restaurant, still absolutely no evidence on the spread. Hospitality has been made a total scapegoat of. Roll on ordering and sitting at a bar in a pub, it's what it's about.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 17, 2021 12:51:07 GMT 1
As above indoors in crowded places and IF ASKED TO by the owner like a footy stadium, shop, transport et al…..
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:01:42 GMT 1
Certainly won't be using one in a pub or restaurant, still absolutely no evidence on the spread. Hospitality has been made a total scapegoat of. Roll on ordering and sitting at a bar in a pub, it's what it's about. Absolutely. Really looking forward to queueing at the bar again, dont care how long it takes to get served the longer the better to start off with. No doubt some pubs wont do it to start off with though. Most ridiculous part of mask wearing for me is putting one on to walk in for 30 seconds and take it off when you sit down for 3 hours. Just bonkers that one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2021 13:10:25 GMT 1
A no from me.
I've been through too much with COVID19 to drop my guard, even now, so hence my caution.
If somewhere is too crowded then I will avoid it, if I can. If not then my mask will be on.
We are off to carfest next week so it will be interesting to see how people approach the event in terms of mask wearing, social distancing etc.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:14:02 GMT 1
As most of you are saying, I will also only wear one in a crowd. Sensible thing to do really.
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 17, 2021 13:14:09 GMT 1
I go along with the OP in general, but won't be ditching my mask quite yet...if my transport operator makes the wearing of one a condition of travel, I will have no choice as I am totally reliant upon public transport; shops who choose to apply similar restrictions will simply lose my business - there are always alternative outlets. As a perhaps frivolous idea, perhaps there may be a business idea for mask-wearers to wait outside such shops and make purchases on behalf of non mask-wearers ( for a small fee, naturally).....haha
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Post by salop18 on Jul 17, 2021 13:21:54 GMT 1
Won’t be wearing one. Time to get back to normality in my opinion.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jul 17, 2021 13:27:34 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink.
Political correctness gone mad!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:29:12 GMT 1
I go along with the OP in general, but won't be ditching my mask quite yet...if my transport operator makes the wearing of one a condition of travel, I will have no choice as I am totally reliant upon public transport; shops who choose to apply similar restrictions will simply lose my business - there are always alternative outlets. As a perhaps frivolous idea, perhaps there may be a business idea for mask-wearers to wait outside such shops and make purchases on behalf of non mask-wearers ( for a small fee, naturally).....haha Totally agree about the shops too. Plenty of others to go to if I'm told to wear one, will make sure they understand it if this happens. Not that I spend very much time in shops anyway.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:30:47 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink. Political correctness gone mad! Maybe a thread can be started next week listing pubs where you can do this. They would get my support over those who wont go back to normal.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:31:54 GMT 1
Won't be frequenting any pub or restaurant that insists on them or doesn't return to bar service as of Monday.
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 17, 2021 13:41:53 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink. Political correctness gone mad! I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect.
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:45:37 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink. Political correctness gone mad! I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. Very doubtful.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 13:46:36 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink. Political correctness gone mad! I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. I think "political correctness" isnt quite the right phrase, "state control" is possibly a better one.
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 17, 2021 13:54:42 GMT 1
I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. I think "political correctness" isnt quite the right phrase, "state control" is possibly a better one. Yes, quite possibly; I shall be in town today, wearing my "Prisoner" t-shirt: "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, numbered briefed or debriefed. MY LIFE IS MY OWN.
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Post by davycrockett on Jul 17, 2021 14:10:05 GMT 1
I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. I think "political correctness" isnt quite the right phrase, "state control" is possibly a better one. Hang on a minute hasn’t the state said you don’t have to wear one except in Hospitals and Doctors etc? Hardly state control, if a property owner asks people to wear one through courtesy to others in busy areas (like under Football stand) You say you hope your choice is met with respect, what about if your asked for a good reason, will you show respect or selfishness?
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Post by northwestman on Jul 17, 2021 14:25:27 GMT 1
Never worn one, as I have a sunshine lanyard with an exemption card attached.
But on Monday I shall be so relieved to be able to order a pint at the bar again. Perhaps bar stools will now reappear.
Table service at some pubs has been excruciatingly slow, though I have sorted out a couple of establishments where my usual table is right next to the bar, so it's easy to get the attention of the bar staff. Those tables are more or less reserved for me in the afternoon.
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Post by Pilch on Jul 17, 2021 14:37:34 GMT 1
Never worn one, as I have a sunshine lanyard with an exemption card attached. But on Monday I shall be so relieved to be able to order a pint at the bar again. Perhaps bar stools will now reappear. Table service at some pubs has been excruciatingly slow, though I have sorted out a couple of establishments where my usual table is right next to the bar, so it's easy to get the attention of the bar staff. Those tables are more or less reserved for me in the afternoon. im exempt, I've always worn one indoors for the safety of others I hate wearing one and just use a kind of snood, its simple to pop it up and down as required I'll do the same as the staff do in the places I visit just so there is no awkwardness
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Post by frankwellshrews on Jul 17, 2021 14:47:45 GMT 1
Absolutely ****ing hate sitting at a table in a pub chatting to my mates while a drink is brought to me, can't wait to go back to having to queue at a bar for my drink. Political correctness gone mad! I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. This isn't the question at all though and (somewhat predictably) you're falling into the trap of (or deliberately) framing this as some sort of political or cultural choice. The real question is " does it make sense to continue to wear masks in some circumstances given the prevalence of a highly infectious and potentially deadly virus?" and the answer is "yes". I really don't give a toss if you're unafraid and neither does the virus. I'm double vaccinated and more than happy to take a common sense approach in well ventilated, non crowded spaces but if I find myself stuck opposite you on a crowded train I'd like you to wear a mask because your lack of fear doesn't make you any less likely to transmit the disease to me or someone else but a mask might. Similarly, I'm happy to go through the minor inconvenience of briefly wearing a mask in a shop if that'swhat the staff who have to be in that space with dozens of strangers all day want me to do. My one hope in all this is that people will be flexible and see this situation for what it is not an opportunity to make a tedious political point but I'm rapidly losing faith in that happening.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 14:51:37 GMT 1
I think "political correctness" isnt quite the right phrase, "state control" is possibly a better one. Hang on a minute hasn’t the state said you don’t have to wear one except in Hospitals and Doctors etc? Hardly state control, if a property owner asks people to wear one through courtesy to others in busy areas (like under Football stand) You say you hope your choice is met with respect, what about if your asked for a good reason, will you show respect or selfishness? Wow, we should be grateful that we are told we can chose whether to wear a mask or not. I'm soooooo thankful. What about all the other 'state controls' still in place. Track n trace, telling you where you can travel to (and then changing it at a minutes notice being just two of many. You may have noticed that the last 12/18 months has seen some of the worst disturbances in recent as people get rebel againt being controlled so much more than ever. Can see it getting much worse yet, and if that's what it takes it needs to happen.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 14:54:50 GMT 1
Big 👍👍👍for my local Co OP.
Just been in and they have already taken the Facemasks signs down. They will continue getting my custom and I told them as much.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 17, 2021 15:05:16 GMT 1
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 17, 2021 15:07:28 GMT 1
I can't go along with the "political correctness" notion at all, but it really is a question as to whether we should continue to live our lives in a state of constant fear....I do not, and will not; what others choose to do is up to them, and I will not engage negatively with those who continue to wear masks....I hope my choice is met with the same respect. This isn't the question at all though and (somewhat predictably) you're falling into the trap of (or deliberately) framing this as some sort of political or cultural choice. The real question is " does it make sense to continue to wear masks in some circumstances given the prevalence of a highly infectious and potentially deadly virus?" and the answer is "yes". I really don't give a toss if you're unafraid and neither does the virus. I'm double vaccinated and more than happy to take a common sense approach in well ventilated, non crowded spaces but if I find myself stuck opposite you on a crowded train I'd like you to wear a mask because your lack of fear doesn't make you any less likely to transmit the disease to me or someone else but a mask might. Similarly, I'm happy to go through the minor inconvenience of briefly wearing a mask in a shop if that'swhat the staff who have to be in that space with dozens of strangers all day want me to do. My one hope in all this is that people will be flexible and see this situation for what it is not an opportunity to make a tedious political point but I'm rapidly losing faith in that happening.
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Post by armchairfan on Jul 17, 2021 15:10:36 GMT 1
This isn't the question at all though and (somewhat predictably) you're falling into the trap of (or deliberately) framing this as some sort of political or cultural choice. The real question is " does it make sense to continue to wear masks in some circumstances given the prevalence of a highly infectious and potentially deadly virus?" and the answer is "yes". I really don't give a toss if you're unafraid and neither does the virus. I'm double vaccinated and more than happy to take a common sense approach in well ventilated, non crowded spaces but if I find myself stuck opposite you on a crowded train I'd like you to wear a mask because your lack of fear doesn't make you any less likely to transmit the disease to me or someone else but a mask might. Similarly, I'm happy to go through the minor inconvenience of briefly wearing a mask in a shop if that'swhat the staff who have to be in that space with dozens of strangers all day want me to do. My one hope in all this is that people will be flexible and see this situation for what it is not an opportunity to make a tedious political point but I'm rapidly losing faith in that happening. As to what may, or may not, be the real question, we clearly have different opinions, but you are right on one score at least - it IS a matter of choice, and long may it be so.
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