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Post by Pilch on Feb 26, 2021 11:01:12 GMT 1
good news glad i dont have to pretend this was the wrong decision
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Post by filmcrewshrew1 on Feb 26, 2021 11:13:00 GMT 1
After the unbelievable news that this country had gone to with Mr Potato head is going gender neutral, this has at least restored some faith in this country.
Absolutely right decision.
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Post by barrynic on Feb 26, 2021 11:15:49 GMT 1
Agreed...Great decision.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Feb 26, 2021 11:16:10 GMT 1
After the unbelievable news that this country had gone to with Mr Potato head is going gender neutral, this has at least restored some faith in this country. Absolutely right decision. “this country” In a similar vein, I’m furious at press censorship and loss of freedom of speech in the UK caused by President Xi refusing to allow open discourse.
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Feb 26, 2021 11:32:02 GMT 1
As the football pundits say........... "GOOD DECISION".
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Post by shropshirelad42 on Feb 26, 2021 11:35:14 GMT 1
As the football pundits say........... "GOOD DECISION".
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 26, 2021 11:38:01 GMT 1
Mr Potato Head and Begum lose their chips then. At least with Begum it's because of the due process of law. So many wanted to just deprive her of her rights - now it's been to the Supreme court and she's lost, I think that is a better look for our country - whatever the circumstances, people should always get their right to a fair hearing.
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Post by neilsalop on Feb 26, 2021 11:49:38 GMT 1
At least this is a legal end to this saga, rather than just a cabinet minister over stepping their limits and making off the cuff decisions.
Personally I think it's the correct decision, because if ISIS hadn't been defeated she would still be fighting against this country. It was only circumstances that made her want to return here, she has no love for the UK or it's freedoms.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 26, 2021 11:51:00 GMT 1
Good start to a Friday.
As for the gender neutral stuff, I will not conform to the nonsense in the slightest. There are two genders, if you want to switch, fine. If you want to have sex with the same gender, again absolutely fine. Crack on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:17:33 GMT 1
Her right to appeal has been paused for the time being until she is in a better position to be able to continue her legal challenge to return to this Country . Whenever that will be who knows but certainly it is not an absolute ruling . The Supreme Court was of the opinion that the Court of Appeal was wrong to consider that her human rights trumped that of the security and safety of the citizens of this Country . Expect this case to resurface sometime in the future .
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Post by armchairfan on Feb 26, 2021 12:19:41 GMT 1
After the unbelievable news that this country had gone to with Mr Potato head is going gender neutral, this has at least restored some faith in this country. Absolutely right decision. “this country” In a similar vein, I’m furious at press censorship and loss of freedom of speech in the UK caused by President Xi refusing to allow open discourse. Sorry, but what are these posts about?
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 26, 2021 12:22:06 GMT 1
Her right to appeal has been paused for the time being until she is in a better position to be able to continue her legal challenge to return to this Country . Whenever that will be who knows but certainly it is not an absolute ruling . The Supreme Court was of the opinion that the Court of Appeal was wrong to consider that her human rights trumped that of the security and safety of the citizens of this Country . Expect this case to resurface sometime in the future . If that's what it takes to do things properly then so be it.
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Post by armchairfan on Feb 26, 2021 12:24:58 GMT 1
Good start to a Friday. As for the gender neutral stuff, I will not conform to the nonsense in the slightest. There are two genders, if you want to switch, fine. If you want to have sex with the same gender, again absolutely fine. Crack on. You are a transphobic agitator and fully deserve the wrath of the woke brigade to descend upon you from a very great height. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Valerioch on Feb 26, 2021 12:40:16 GMT 1
Excellent news
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Post by shrewder on Feb 26, 2021 12:54:06 GMT 1
After the unbelievable news that this country had gone to with Mr Potato head is going gender neutral, this has at least restored some faith in this country. Absolutely right decision. It could be argued that Potato Head is far more offensive than Mr Potato Head.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:59:11 GMT 1
Legal due process followed, but agree with Severnheaven, this won't go away.
As for Potato head, it's funny people even get annoyed by this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 12:59:30 GMT 1
As it's been mentioned on here, the 'Mr Potato Head' saga is another example of the ridiculous world we live in at times. Not so much the decision to do it, but the reaction to it. Something like this happens and it normally goes as follows
Person A (predominately on the right) - Goes into meltdown, PC gone mad, woke, cancel culture etc. Person B (predominately on the left) - Find the whole thing hilarious, calls everyone gammon, asks how people can lose their s**t over a toy. Person A - Asks if its only a toy, why does it need to change. Normally going into a rant about the people who are supposed to find it offensive (based on the story/media) Person B - No one is bothered, no one finds it offensive
So if no one was bothered about it, why change it? I'm genuinely interested to see with things like this, how does the process start? I know things change over time but who decides ' we need to make this gender less' and why?
It's a bit like stories of a flag offending minorities, it results in right wing & left wing white people arguing whilst the people who are supposedly offended sit back and watch it all unfold (whilst being blamed for it)
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Feb 26, 2021 13:09:01 GMT 1
“this country” In a similar vein, I’m furious at press censorship and loss of freedom of speech in the UK caused by President Xi refusing to allow open discourse. Sorry, but what are these posts about? I was just curious about why a controversial decision taken by an American toy conglomerate was in the slightest way a reflection on “this country”.
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Post by armchairfan on Feb 26, 2021 13:13:43 GMT 1
Sorry, but what are these posts about? I was just curious about why a controversial decision taken by an American toy conglomerate was in the slightest way a reflection on “this country”. A bit obscure for me, but got you now!
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Post by Pilch on Feb 26, 2021 13:15:55 GMT 1
As it's been mentioned on here, the 'Mr Potato Head' saga is another example of the ridiculous world we live in at times. Not so much the decision to do it, but the reaction to it. Something like this happens and it normally goes as follows Person A (predominately on the right) - Goes into meltdown, PC gone mad, woke, cancel culture etc. Person B (predominately on the left) - Find the whole thing hilarious, calls everyone gammon, asks how people can lose their s**t over a toy. Person A - Asks if its only a toy, why does it need to change. Normally going into a rant about the people who are supposed to find it offensive (based on the story/media) Person B - No one is bothered, no one finds it offensive So if no one was bothered about it, why change it? I'm genuinely interested to see with things like this, how does the process start? I know things change over time but who decides ' we need to make this gender less' and why? It's a bit like stories of a flag offending minorities, it results in right wing & left wing white people arguing whilst the people who are supposedly offended sit back and watch it all unfold (whilst being blamed for it) person C reckons all potaotes are female due to spending most of their time in the kitchen person c is off to get their coat ;-)
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 26, 2021 13:17:42 GMT 1
I just hope they’re not going to ban the Toy Story films.
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 26, 2021 14:05:56 GMT 1
Something no quite right in my mind. If she’d been a 15 year old white girl who’d been groomed and ended up in Syria with ISIS would everyone think the same?
She’s a threat yes but is willing to return to stand trial and if found to be a danger to society, society would be protected.
Liberty, the human rights group which intervened in Ms Begum's case, said the latest ruling sets "an extremely dangerous precedent". Rosie Brighouse, a lawyer with Liberty, said: "The right to a fair trial is not something democratic governments should take away on a whim, and nor is someone's British citizenship. "If a government is allowed to wield extreme powers like banishment without the basic safeguards of a fair trial it sets an extremely dangerous precedent. "The security services have safely managed the returns of hundreds of people from Syria but the government has chosen to target Shamima Begum." 'I'M NOT A MONSTER': How did an American family end up in the heart of the ISIS caliphate? Journalist Josh Baker unravels a dangerous story where nothing is as it seems Maya Foa, director of the human rights group Reprieve said preventing Ms Begum from entering the UK remained "a cynical ploy to make her someone else's responsibility". "Like many of its European counterparts, the UK is more than capable of bringing home British detainees in Syria, many of whom left as teenagers after being trafficked or groomed online. "Abandoning them in a legal black hole - in Guantanamo-like conditions - is out of step with British values and the interests of justice and security."
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 26, 2021 14:34:53 GMT 1
Something no quite right in my mind. If she’d been a 15 year old white girl who’d been groomed and ended up in Syria with ISIS would everyone think the same? Yes. This is NOTHING do to with race.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 14:41:10 GMT 1
"Abandoning them in a legal black hole - in Guantanamo-like conditions - is out of step with British values and the interests of justice and security."Yes, but chopping off someones head for s**ts and gigs cos they dont worship the same god is also not of British Values.
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 26, 2021 14:48:18 GMT 1
"Abandoning them in a legal black hole - in Guantanamo-like conditions - is out of step with British values and the interests of justice and security."Yes, but chopping off someones head for s**ts and gigs cos they dont worship the same god is also not of British Values. You haven’t answered the question if you’d think the same if she was white with white parents....
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 26, 2021 14:49:08 GMT 1
Something no quite right in my mind. If she’d been a 15 year old white girl who’d been groomed and ended up in Syria with ISIS would everyone think the same? Yes. This is NOTHING do to with race. It is. If she as white from Shrewsbury and her parents were white would you think the same?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 14:49:28 GMT 1
Yes, but chopping off someones head for s**ts and gigs cos they dont worship the same god is also not of British Values. You haven’t answered the question if you’d think the same if she was white with white parents.... Yes, as has happened to the White lad (ginger guy)
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Post by venceremos on Feb 26, 2021 14:49:55 GMT 1
Something no quite right in my mind. If she’d been a 15 year old white girl who’d been groomed and ended up in Syria with ISIS would everyone think the same? Yes. This is NOTHING do to with race. So grooming white girls for sexual favours is an outrage and everything must be done to protect them but grooming brown girls for political/military purposes is the brown girl's problem?
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 26, 2021 14:52:09 GMT 1
Yes. This is NOTHING do to with race. So grooming white girls for sexual favours is an outrage and everything must be done to protect them but grooming brown girls for political/military purposes is the brown girl's problem? Hit the nail on the head
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Post by camdenshrew on Feb 26, 2021 15:00:29 GMT 1
Global Britain. Yes, let's dump our problem on another country to sort out.
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