trueblue89
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Post by trueblue89 on Nov 24, 2020 10:08:39 GMT 1
i predict its win or bust and if my head was on the line this would be my desperate side ------------Burgoyne. (reluctantly) Miller, Williams, Walker, Pierre (reluctantly), Vela. Norburn High Daniels j, Cummings, Whalley I know this wont resemble the side but i want a side that gets stuck in i predict 1-1 which wont be enough for Sam Personally, i cant see him starting Cummings through the middle of which is our best shot. I also think that a defeat is the outcome and SR will still be in the hot seat
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 11:11:38 GMT 1
Yep. That would be typical Town. And then another five weeks of waiting to see whether we had turned some corner or not. Only to find we hadn't. Exactly! Not just Sam who is 'unlucky', it's the supporters!!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 24, 2020 11:13:53 GMT 1
Yep. That would be typical Town. And then another five weeks of waiting to see whether we had turned some corner or not. Only to find we hadn't. Exactly! Not just Sam who is 'unlucky', it's the supporters!! a combination of last season and this dire season would test the most stoic fan. turn up town do the basics right and we might get a point.after the last two games were we threw away leads i was suprised to not see rickeets having to pack his bags.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 11:22:00 GMT 1
Exactly! Not just Sam who is 'unlucky', it's the supporters!! a combination of last season and this dire season would test the most stoic fan. turn up town do the basics right and we might get a point.after the last two games were we threw away leads i was suprised to not see rickeets having to pack his bags. I agree! We're not too far away from getting some results. We have only lost one game this month ...!
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Post by criftins on Nov 24, 2020 11:37:43 GMT 1
If I was Brian/Roland I’d be thinking that the time has come if we fail to win tonight: - a game against non-league opposition for a new interim manager to get off to a winning start. - the return of fans has been confirmed. The £37.5 k fee for game on Sunday should be more than enough to pay off Whitehead, leaves Roland to find the cash for Ricketts.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 24, 2020 11:43:29 GMT 1
a combination of last season and this dire season would test the most stoic fan. turn up town do the basics right and we might get a point.after the last two games were we threw away leads i was suprised to not see rickeets having to pack his bags. I agree! We're not too far away from getting some results. We have only lost one game this month ...! let us hope that is the only one
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 11:53:58 GMT 1
but its a non answer or 3 really from a genuine question I’d have taken Nigel Clough or Keith Hill but we’ve been too slow I’d like us to approach the Cowley’s and see how we go Paul Cook - highly unlikely but I’d ask the question There’s an endless list of options and we are never short of applications in the past Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 24, 2020 12:06:19 GMT 1
Todays the day! It's in the stars, Sam, as a Libra, has things aligned so that "Senior officers will look satisfied with your performance and you will also get many compliments. On the other hand, if you do business, today will be a relief for you. If you are worried about a business matter for a long time, then this worry will end today. The obstacle coming your way will be removed and your business will grow". As for the Stuart Dunn interview after, "Libras have trouble admitting their faults". so expect a prickly response to any searching questions.
And remember, "Libras don't have the best follow-through, so it's important to make sure they're surrounded by grounded people who are good at taking direction and getting things done". So come on team, get things done! Whitehead, shout up if you think things need to change during the match!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 24, 2020 12:09:39 GMT 1
Todays the day! It's in the stars Sam, as a Libra has things aligned so that Senior officers will look satisfied with your performance and you will also get many compliments. On the other hand, if you do business, today will be a relief for you. If you are worried about a business matter for a long time, then this worry will end today. The obstacle coming your way will be removed and your business will grow. As for the Stuart Dunn interview after, Libras have trouble admitting their faults. so expect a prickly response to any searching question s. And remember, Libras don't have the best follow-through, so it's important to make sure they're surrounded by grounded people who are good at taking direction and getting things done. So come on team, get things done! Whitehead, shout up if you think things need to change during the match! I think your post was more of a cancer
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Post by cabanas2017 on Nov 24, 2020 12:56:56 GMT 1
I’d have taken Nigel Clough or Keith Hill but we’ve been too slow I’d like us to approach the Cowley’s and see how we go Paul Cook - highly unlikely but I’d ask the question There’s an endless list of options and we are never short of applications in the past Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now. I think the problem is Roland can’t find a decent enough manager, which may also get the approval of most fans, who would be interested in managing Town with our financial model.
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Post by gtismygod on Nov 24, 2020 13:01:23 GMT 1
Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now. I think the problem is Roland can’t find a decent enough manager, which may also get the approval of most fans, who would be interested in managing Town with our financial model. Huh? We have an excellent financial model don’t we?
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Post by cabanas2017 on Nov 24, 2020 13:02:31 GMT 1
During the 1973/74 season under Maurice Evans, very similar, by the time he was sacked we were well adrift and Durban couldn’t keep us up even though we had a strong end to the season We had 1 win and 4 draws in 12 games and we went another 3 defeats and won game 16 after signing Alan Durban then lost the next 4 then Maurice Evans was sacked. Played 20 won 2 drew 4 lost 14. Durban became caretaker and we won the next 3 but we were still to far adrift.
Worth tracking with this season.
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Post by cabanas2017 on Nov 24, 2020 13:06:45 GMT 1
I think the problem is Roland can’t find a decent enough manager, which may also get the approval of most fans, who would be interested in managing Town with our financial model. Huh? We have an excellent financial model don’t we? About 16th for the division for player wages and historically perennial strugglers and yo yo between tier 3 and 4, is not an attractive proposition for prospective manager. We missed the opportunity when Paul Hurst went.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 24, 2020 13:21:48 GMT 1
I think the problem is Roland can’t find a decent enough manager, which may also get the approval of most fans, who would be interested in managing Town with our financial model. Huh? We have an excellent financial model don’t we? Yes, excellent in the way of being prudent. Not so good if you think we are going to go deep into debt to fulfil a big time manager's vanity project.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 13:53:21 GMT 1
Huh? We have an excellent financial model don’t we? About 16th for the division for player wages and historically perennial strugglers and yo yo between tier 3 and 4, is not an attractive proposition for prospective manager. We missed the opportunity when Paul Hurst went. Don’t particularly agree that we’re not an attractive proposition for a manager. We may not be rich but we’re stable, willing to give a manager like Ricketts money to sign Clarke, Daniels, Pugh etc on good contracts so the backing is there. Also own our stadium and have a brand new training ground, there’s a lot of clubs worse off then us around our level, it would be a great opportunity for a manger to come here and take us to the next level.
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Post by blamber on Nov 24, 2020 14:17:05 GMT 1
Agree - I think we are a very attractive proposition for a manager. Particularly a youngish, ambitious manager. By being 16th in the league table of wages would not be a turn off. Nor does it follow that 16th in the wage table means we can't possibly finish higher. Of course, there will be managers that we simply can't afford whether we're 16th in wage table or even a bit higher (perhaps someone like Paul Cook) but the typical 'Shrewsbury' type manager will be chomping at the bit to be given the opportunity to take us forward. But for now, we have Sam, and if we win tonight then he'll be our manager for the next couple of games at least. Then who knows...
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 24, 2020 14:27:56 GMT 1
Huh? We have an excellent financial model don’t we? Yes, excellent in the way of being prudent. Not so good if you think we are going to go deep into debt to fulfil a big time manager's vanity project. Might not be so attractive for the manager, though we always seem to back the manager financially within our budget. But for the long term stability of the club it's very good for everyone concerned including the fans. I would much rather have a club that is financially stable in 10 years time still at level 3 or 4 than one that has spent a season at level 2 but because money is now scarce are kicking around playing the likes of Wrexham, Chester, Darlington Stockport, Chesterfield......the list can go on if you want me to.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Nov 24, 2020 14:37:12 GMT 1
I’d have taken Nigel Clough or Keith Hill but we’ve been too slow I’d like us to approach the Cowley’s and see how we go Paul Cook - highly unlikely but I’d ask the question There’s an endless list of options and we are never short of applications in the past Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now. Cambridge, Carlisle and Cheltenham all doing well in league 2 this season with managers who are in their first jobs. It can work, but it isn't working under ricketts
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 17:12:52 GMT 1
Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now. Cambridge, Carlisle and Cheltenham all doing well in league 2 this season with managers who are in their first jobs. It can work, but it isn't working under ricketts Michael Flynn at Newport County is doing a good job too.
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 24, 2020 17:20:34 GMT 1
Think mark bowen could put in for it, if ricketts goes.think he was with hughes at wales.edwards would know about him.just a thought, I dont really know
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 24, 2020 17:23:20 GMT 1
Every time we’re without a manager good names get discussed on here and people get excited, we then end up getting linked with people like Askey and Ricketts from non league, which admittedly can occasionally work out, PH, but in general it’s underwhelming. I think it’s time for Ricketts to go, but I have no idea how the club would approach the job of appointing a new manager, would we stick with the young, non league up and coming manager strategy or go for someone a little more tried and tested? Guess it’s an irrelevant question for now. I think the problem is Roland can’t find a decent enough manager, which may also get the approval of most fans, who would be interested in managing Town with our financial model. Absolute nonsense. In the current climate it would be one of the best jobs in the division. Problem is, Roland has no ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 17:49:49 GMT 1
Difficult balancing act. I think we’d all settle for between 9-15th in league one as where we want us to be.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 24, 2020 18:29:28 GMT 1
make of that what you will www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2020/11/24/shrewsbury-town-boss-sam-ricketts-method-is-right/"Sam Ricketts insists ‘everything we’re doing is right’ ahead of a crunch game for the Shrewsbury Town boss at MK Dons tonight.But Ricketts has remained largely satisfied with what he has seen from his players and re-emphasised yesterday that ‘everything is right’ with the process.I never get too down or too up, I’m still pragmatic after the game, an awful lot was good but the frustration is we’re not getting the rewards everyone deserves from the game,” Ricketts said. “You can’t get down about it, I’ve said many times if we were getting beat two, three or four nil and not getting a kick, having been rolled over and not in the game – but it was the complete opposite. “They’d run out of ideas, they didn’t know what to do to get in the game and they got very, very lucky with two goals that have gifted them the game when they didn’t know what to do.“You’ve got to take heart from that, you know that everything we’re doing is right, it just hasn’t fallen for us.”
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 24, 2020 18:31:03 GMT 1
Hopefully first time manager Russell Martin is in for a bad night.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 24, 2020 18:57:32 GMT 1
make of that what you will www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2020/11/24/shrewsbury-town-boss-sam-ricketts-method-is-right/"Sam Ricketts insists ‘everything we’re doing is right’ ahead of a crunch game for the Shrewsbury Town boss at MK Dons tonight.But Ricketts has remained largely satisfied with what he has seen from his players and re-emphasised yesterday that ‘everything is right’ with the process.I never get too down or too up, I’m still pragmatic after the game, an awful lot was good but the frustration is we’re not getting the rewards everyone deserves from the game,” Ricketts said. “You can’t get down about it, I’ve said many times if we were getting beat two, three or four nil and not getting a kick, having been rolled over and not in the game – but it was the complete opposite. “They’d run out of ideas, they didn’t know what to do to get in the game and they got very, very lucky with two goals that have gifted them the game when they didn’t know what to do.“You’ve got to take heart from that, you know that everything we’re doing is right, it just hasn’t fallen for us.” He is probably right, but you have to make your own luck. The law of averages says you will make mistakes at times leading to letting in goals at our level. But It becomes an issue if that keeps happening each and every game.
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Post by armchairfan on Nov 24, 2020 18:59:58 GMT 1
I almost think of myself as something of an outsider in this whole debate, because I confess to not fully understanding modern football tactics, nor formations on the pitch. One thing is however clear to me, and that is the degree to which many of us (probably me included) have been influenced by the Paul Hurst season, despite protestations to the contrary; I was a lapsed Town fan, until I realised that something magical was happening to MY CLUB, and it was that season, and Paul Hurst, which re-engaged me in matters Shrewsbury Town (yes - something else to blame him for🤣) It is a fact that accusations of the Board lacking ambition have been rife almost throughout the last 50 years or so, even in the PH season and, I recall, during Arthur Rowley's final year ("the Board doesn't WANT us to go up"). The game has changed out of all recognition, as have the financial dynamics, so..... where does the Board go, assuming that Mr Ricketts is shown the door, itself not a given? Affordability must feature strongly of course, but I also think that there needs to be some cognicence of DESIRE in a possible appointment: who WANTS to manage a club so deeply in the habit of losing, and with limited financial resources - and yes, I know that other clubs at our level are far worse off - a manager who has experience at this level who can rejuvenate the club, in the same way that Paul Hurst's team rejuvenated me. I so dearly wish that Sam Ricketts had been that person.... Can we afford the Cowley double-act?
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Nov 24, 2020 19:03:36 GMT 1
What does Ricketts have against Cummings? We need goals and he continues to be condemned on the bench. Nice to see Iliev in instead of Rash Harry.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 24, 2020 19:04:20 GMT 1
What does Ricketts have against Cummings? We need goals and he continues to be condemned on the bench. Nice to see Iliev in instead of Rash Harry. Maybe he’s been up to no good again
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Post by londonshrew75 on Nov 24, 2020 19:08:02 GMT 1
So who is the centre forward/ outball? Pierre? Oh hold on. He is for the last thirty minutes not the start...
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